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  • School Has Become Too Hostile To Boys

    http://ideas.time.com/2013/08/19/sch...#ixzz2cZ5KyGkc

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    School Has Become Too Hostile to Boys

    And efforts to re-engineer the young-male imagination are doomed to fail
    By Christina Hoff Sommers @chsommersAug. 19, 2013670 Comments



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    As school begins in the coming weeks, parents of boys should ask themselves a question: Is my son really welcome? A flurry of incidents last spring suggests that the answer is no. In May, Christopher Marshall, age 7, was suspended from his Virginia school for picking up a pencil and using it to “shoot” a “bad guy” — his friend, who was also suspended. A few months earlier, Josh Welch, also 7, was sent home from his Maryland school for nibbling off the corners of a strawberry Pop-Tart to shape it into a gun. At about the same time, Colorado’s Alex Evans, age 7, was suspended for throwing an imaginary hand grenade at “bad guys” in order to “save the world.”
    In all these cases, school officials found the children to be in violation of the school’s zero-tolerance policies for firearms, which is clearly a ludicrous application of the rule. But common sense isn’t the only thing at stake here. In the name of zero tolerance, our schools are becoming hostile environments for young boys.
    (MORE: Your First-Grader Is Going to Be a High School Dropout)
    Girls occasionally run afoul of these draconian policies; but it is mostly boys who are ensnared. Boys are nearly five times more likely to be expelled from preschool than girls. In grades K-12, boys account for nearly 70% of suspensions, often for minor acts of insubordination and defiance. In the cases of Christopher, Josh and Alex, there was no insubordination or defiance whatsoever. They were guilty of nothing more than being typical 7-year-old boys. But in today’s school environment, that can be a punishable offense.
    Zero tolerance was originally conceived as a way of ridding schools of violent predators, especially in the wake of horrific shootings in places like Littleton, Colo. But juvenile violence, including violence at schools, is at a historic low. The Bureau of Justice Statistics reports that in 2011, approximately 1% of students ages 12 to 18 reported a violent victimization at school. For serious violence, the figure is one-tenth of 1%. It does no disrespect to the victims of Columbine or Sandy Hook to note that while violence may be built into the core of a small coterie of sociopathic boys, most boys are not sociopathic.
    On the other hand, millions of boys are struggling academically. A large and growing male cohort is falling behind in grades and disengaged from school. College has never been more important to a young person’s life prospects, and today boys are far less likely than girls to pursue education beyond high school. As our schools become more risk averse, the gender gap favoring girls is threatening to become a chasm.
    (MORE: Do Kids Really Have ‘Summer Learning Loss’?)
    Across the country, schools are policing and punishing the distinctive, assertive sociability of boys. Many much-loved games have vanished from school playgrounds. At some schools, tug of war has been replaced with “tug of peace.” Since the 1990s, elimination games like dodgeball, red rover and tag have been under a cloud — too damaging to self-esteem and too violent, say certain experts. Young boys, with few exceptions, love action narratives. These usually involve heroes, bad guys, rescues and shoot-ups. As boys’ play proceeds, plots become more elaborate and the boys more transfixed. When researchers ask boys why they do it, the standard reply is, “Because it’s fun.”
    According to at least one study, such play rarely escalates into real aggression — only about 1% of the time. But when two researchers, Mary Ellin Logue and Hattie Harvey, surveyed classroom practices of 98 teachers of 4-year-olds, they found that this style of play was the least tolerated. Nearly half of teachers stopped or redirected boys’ dramatic play daily or several times a week — whereas less than a third reported stopping or redirecting girls’ dramatic play weekly.
    Play is a critical basis for learning. And boys’ heroic play is no exception. Logue and Harvey found that “bad guy” play improved children’s conversation and imaginative writing. Such play, say the authors, also builds moral imagination, social competence and imparts critical lessons about personal limits and self-restraint. Logue and Harvey worry that the growing intolerance for boys’ action-narrative-play choices may be undermining their early language development and weakening their attachment to school. Imagine the harm done to boys like Christopher, Josh and Alex who are not merely discouraged from their choice of play, but are punished, publicly shamed and ostracized.
    Schools must enforce codes of discipline and maintain clear rules against incivility and malicious behavior. But that hardly requires abolishing tag, imposing games of tug of peace or banning superhero play. Efforts to re-engineer the young-male imagination are doomed to fail, but they will succeed spectacularly in at least one way. They will send a clear and unmistakable message to millions of schoolboys: You are not welcome in school.



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    The Macy group found in the 40's & 50's that female F scores were naturally higher than male's, meaning female personalitiess are typically more authoritarian, and therefore more obedient. The social consequences of this naturally follows.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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      Re: School Has Become Too Hostile To Boys

      Originally posted by reggie View Post
      The Macy group found in the 40's & 50's that female F scores were naturally higher than male's, meaning female personalitiess are typically more authoritarian, and therefore more obedient. The social consequences of this naturally follows.
      Very interesting!

      Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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        Watching my younger son struggle, being forced to behave like the girls with no recess and PE only once a weekI am not surprised by this story. In fact I feel a bit vindicated after watching the clip. Also, one only needs to look athow many boys are diagnosed with ADD/ADHD and drugged versus the number of girls diagnosed and treated for the same condition.

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          This is not new information. Just like all the studies that show that sitting too much kills you.

          We were not designed to sit on our butts for endless hours at a time.

          In shop class I was given a paper test on how to use the acetylene torch. I failed the test, even though I'd been successfully using one for over a year at home. At home we called them high pressure and low pressure regulators, the shop class wanted them called primary and secondary.

          We use paper and computers too much when we should be using real hands/on experience.

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            Re: School Has Become Too Hostile To Boys

            Originally posted by Wharf.Rat View Post
            Watching my younger son struggle, being forced to behave like the girls with no recess and PE only once a weekI am not surprised by this story. In fact I feel a bit vindicated after watching the clip. Also, one only needs to look athow many boys are diagnosed with ADD/ADHD and drugged versus the number of girls diagnosed and treated for the same condition.
            hard to sort this out from the different presentations- boys tend to have more of the hyperactivity and so have behavior problems, while girls with add are more likely to be merely inattentive, and so don't draw notice. they're just quietly looking out the window.

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              Re: School Has Become Too Hostile To Boys

              Originally posted by LorenS View Post
              This is not new information. Just like all the studies that show that sitting too much kills you.

              We were not designed to sit on our butts for endless hours at a time.

              In shop class I was given a paper test on how to use the acetylene torch. I failed the test, even though I'd been successfully using one for over a year at home. At home we called them high pressure and low pressure regulators, the shop class wanted them called primary and secondary.

              We use paper and computers too much when we should be using real hands/on experience.

              yep - this becomes more obvious every day, as fewer and fewer know how to do _anything_ it seems - cept maybe to use their thumbs to send twits and post (future) embarrassments on faceboob...

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                Re: School Has Become Too Hostile To Boys

                Originally posted by jk View Post
                hard to sort this out from the different presentations- boys tend to have more of the hyperactivity and so have behavior problems, while girls with add are more likely to be merely inattentive, and so don't draw notice. they're just quietly looking out the window.

                uh huh... esp at red lights.
                (while the boyz are draggin to the next one)

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                  Re: School Has Become Too Hostile To Boys

                  Originally posted by LorenS View Post
                  This is not new information. Just like all the studies that show that sitting too much kills you.

                  We were not designed to sit on our butts for endless hours at a time.

                  In shop class I was given a paper test on how to use the acetylene torch. I failed the test, even though I'd been successfully using one for over a year at home. At home we called them high pressure and low pressure regulators, the shop class wanted them called primary and secondary.

                  We use paper and computers too much when we should be using real hands/on experience.
                  I find that using paper and computers saves me a great deal of time and effort. I would love to just go tooling away, but it is far better to make sure the things I'm building actually work before I go through the expense and effort to make them.

                  Not that I'm dismissing hands on effort in any way, but to me it is really "mens et manus".
                  Last edited by radon; August 21, 2013, 09:12 PM.

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                    Re: School Has Become Too Hostile To Boys

                    I've been around a fair number people who passed all the tests and the tech interviews and still couldn't write anything useful.

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                      Re: School Has Become Too Hostile To Boys

                      Originally posted by Wharf.Rat View Post
                      Watching my younger son struggle, being forced to behave like the girls with no recess and PE only once a weekI am not surprised by this story. In fact I feel a bit vindicated after watching the clip. Also, one only needs to look athow many boys are diagnosed with ADD/ADHD and drugged versus the number of girls diagnosed and treated for the same condition.
                      There's probably some truth to this. It shouldn't be thrown out. But the AEI version wants all the boys to be ingrown capitalists. I say just let them be boys. Competitive in sport, friendly in interaction, reasonable in demeanor. We don't need to breed pointless competition. But we also don't need to breed pointless obedience. What boys need is a trifle in between. Competitive where it counts, obedient when necessary, reverent when the times warrant, and trustworthy always. In fact, I think the boy scouts Law got it long ago:

                      A Scout is:
                      • Trustworthy,
                      • Loyal,
                      • Helpful,
                      • Friendly,
                      • Courteous,
                      • Kind,
                      • Obedient,
                      • Cheerful,
                      • Thrifty,
                      • Brave,
                      • Clean,
                      • and Reverent
                      Now, that's the scout law. What's the oath?

                      On my honor, I will do my best
                      To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;
                      To help other people at all times;
                      To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight.





                      DUTY TO GOD AND COUNTRY:

                      Your family and religious leaders teach you to know and serve God. By following these teachings, you do your duty to God.

                      Men and women of the past worked to make America great, and many gave their lives for their country. By being a good family member and a good citizen, by working for your country's good and obeying its laws, you do your duty to your country. Obeying the Scout Law means living by its 12 points.



                      DUTY TO OTHER PEOPLE: Many people need help. A cheery smile and a helping hand make life easier for others. By doing a Good Turn daily and helping when you're needed, you prove yourself a Scout and do your part to make this a better world.



                      DUTY TO SELF: Keeping yourself physically strong means taking care of your body. Eat the right foods and build your strength. Staying mentally awake means learn all you can, be curious, and ask questions. Being morally straight means to live your life with honesty, to be clean in your speech and actions, and to be a person of strong character.

                      We figured this out a while ago. No need to reinvent it.

                      Public school has gotten a bit draconian for boys.

                      I'm in agreement.

                      But it also works better for girls than it ever did.

                      I have not much input, except to say I grew up in a boy's school.

                      I regret none of it.

                      There might have been something to it. But even if not, too many active boys are pronounced ADD. I'm sure of that. Psychology is a hard thing. Too often it falls to fads. But there are also some boys who cannot pay attention regardless of the setting. As always, I think maybe the pendulum swung too far, but it hit on a tinge of truth on its way.

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                        my greatest concern is this accelerating push of from the intelligentsia of "gender neutrality", which is a euphemism for "males and females are the same" (save for a few anatomical differences). I can't even get my son on a boys soccer team as they are all co-ed now. Boys and girls are different - its common sense- and science certainly backs it up. There is always hell to pay for hubris against common sense, but it just seems to come about a generation or two later when all the crackpots who pushed the nonsense are dead and buried. Let's help both boys and girls become their best. Single sex classrooms and a greater percentage of male teachers is a start- I guarantee this approach will be revisited at some point in the future.

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                          Re: School Has Become Too Hostile To Boys

                          Originally posted by shiny! View Post
                          Very interesting!
                          Well, we know Gloria Steinem was CIA. Given what the Macy Group determined at least 10-20yrs earlier, why do you think the CIA embarked on such a domestic program (ie feminism)?

                          Oh, and then there is the link between estrogen levels and thyroid suppression. Men do have a health advantage here. Oh, but wait, now we have soy in all of our animal feeds and in food products on every store aisle, and all that soy protein has helped solved the "problem" by significantly elevating estrogen levels in both genders. Now, everyone's endocrine system is under attack, resulting in a less healthy, less energetic, less intellient society.

                          Last edited by reggie; August 23, 2013, 05:51 PM.
                          The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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