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  • #61
    Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

    Originally posted by shiny! View Post
    Are you talking about changing things from outside the Federal legislative system? Protests, strikes. boycotts? Something else? With all the advanced crowd control technology at police/military disposal, is that even possible anymore?

    Will middle class people rise up in protest if a stint in jail means losing their job and then losing their house because they missed their mortgage payment? That's the real, underlying reason for the "American Dream" of universal home ownership.

    Will people protest if it means losing welfare/unemployment/food stamp or health care benefits? Do most people receiving safety net benefits even want change to a smaller government? Is that the intended consequence of making so many people dependent on government?
    all VERY good questions, ms shiny!

    and all portend very chilling outcomes - but something is definitely brewing and apparently the lamestream media is also failing to connect the dots on this topic - just like they have utterly failed - intentionally, IMO - to connect the dots on this topic.

    but this item below just landed in my inbox and it sure does look like this guy IS connecting the dots....


    The author is one of the most credible constitutional law attorneys in the country and founder of The Rutherford Institute. Check his bio: https://www.rutherford.org/about/about_john_whitehead/ He represented Brandon Raub, the former Marine who served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, who was forcibly taken from his home last year in VA by FBI agents for posting personal political views on Facebook. See: https://www.rutherford.org/key_cases..._brandon_raub/ Bottom line--when John Whitehead speaks, freedom loving Americans need to pay attention!!


    https://www.rutherford.org/publicati...ccupying_force

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    Are Police in America Now a Military, Occupying Force?

    By John W. Whitehead
    August 05, 2013

    Despite the steady hue and cry by government agencies about the need for more police, more sophisticated weaponry, and the difficulties of preserving the peace and maintaining security in our modern age, the reality is far different. Indeed, violent crime in America has been on a steady decline, and if current trends continue, Americans will finish the year 2013 experiencing the lowest murder rate in over a century.

    Despite this clear referendum on the fact that communities would be better served by smaller, demilitarized police forces, police agencies throughout the country are dramatically increasing in size and scope. Some of the nation’s larger cities boast police forces the size of small armies. (New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg actually likes to brag that the NYPD is his personal army.) For example, the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) has reached a total of 10,000 officers. It takes its place alongside other cities boasting increasingly large police forces, including New York (36,000 officers) and Chicago (13,400 officers). When considered in terms of cops per square mile, Los Angeles assigns a whopping 469 officers per square mile, followed by New York with 303 officers per square mile, and Chicago with 227 cops per square mile.

    Of course, such heavy police presence comes at a price. Los Angeles spends over $2 billion per year on the police force, a 36% increase within the last eight years. The LAPD currently consumes over 55% of Los Angeles’ discretionary budget, a 9% increase over the past nine years. Meanwhile, street repair and maintenance spending has declined by 36%, and in 2011, one-fifth of the city’s fire stations lost units, increasing response times for 911 medical emergencies.

    For those who want to credit hefty police forces for declining crime rates, the data just doesn’t show a direct correlation. In fact, many cities across the country actually saw decreases in crime rates during the 1990s in the wake of increasing prison sentences and the waning crack-cocaine epidemic. Cities such as Seattle and Dallas actually cut their police forces during this time and still saw crime rates drop.

    As I point out in my new book, A Government of Wolves: The Emerging American Police State, there was a time in our nation’s history when Americans would have revolted against the prospect of city police forces the size of small armies, or rampaging SWAT teams tearing through doors and terrorizing families. Today, the SWAT team is largely sold to the American public by way of the media, through reality TV shows such as Cops, Armed and Famous, and Police Women of Broward County, and by politicians well-versed in promising greater security in exchange for the government being given greater freedom to operate as it sees fit outside the framework of the Constitution.

    Having watered down the Fourth Amendment’s strong prohibitions intended to keep police in check and functioning as peacekeepers, we now find ourselves in the unenviable position of having militarized standing armies enforcing the law. Likewise, whereas the police once operated as public servants (i.e., in service to the public), today that master-servant relationship has been turned on its head to such an extent that if we fail to obey anyone who wears a badge, we risk dire consequences.

    Consider that in 1980, there were roughly 3,000 SWAT team-style raids in the US. By 2001, that number had grown to 45,000 and has since swelled to more than 80,000 SWAT team raids per year. On an average day in America, over 100 Americans have their homes raided by SWAT teams. In fact, there are few communities without a SWAT team on their police force today. In 1984, 25.6 percent of towns with populations between 25,000 and 50,000 people had a SWAT team. That number rose to 80 percent by 2005.

    The problem, of course, is that as SWAT teams and SWAT-style tactics are used more frequently to carry out routine law enforcement activities, Americans find themselves in increasingly dangerous and absurd situations. For example, in late July 2013, a no-kill animal shelter in Kenosha, Wisconsin, was raided by nine Department of Natural Resources (DNR) agents and four deputy sheriffs. The raid was prompted by tips that the shelter was home to a baby deer that had been separated from its mother. The shelter officials had planned to send the deer to a wildlife rehabilitation facility in Illinois, but the agents, who stormed the property unannounced, demanded that the deer be handed over because citizens are not allowed to possess wildlife. When the 13 LEOs entered the property “armed to the teeth,” they corralled the employees around a picnic table while they searched for the deer. When they returned, one agent had the deer slung over his shoulder in a body bag, ready to be euthanized.

    When asked why they didn’t simply ask shelter personnel to hand the deer over instead of conducting an unannounced raid, DNR Supervisor Jennifer Niemeyer compared their actions to drug raids, saying “If a sheriff’s department is going in to do a search warrant on a drug bust, they don’t call them and ask them to voluntarily surrender their marijuana or whatever drug that they have before they show up.”

    If these raids are becoming increasingly common and widespread, you can chalk it up to the “make-work” philosophy, in which you assign at-times unnecessary jobs to individuals to keep them busy or employed. In this case, however, the make-work principle is being used to justify the use of sophisticated military equipment and, in the process, qualify for federal funding.

    It all started back in the 1980s, when Congress launched the 1033 Program to allow the Department of Defense to transfer surplus military goods to state and local police agencies. The 1033 program has grown dramatically, with some 13,000 police agencies in all 50 states and four US territories currently participating. In 2012, the federal government transferred $546 million worth of property to state and local police agencies. This 1033 program allows small towns like Rising Star, Texas, with a population of 835 and only one full-time police officer, to acquire $3.2 million worth of goods and military gear from the federal government over the course of fourteen months.

    Military equipment sent to small towns has included high-powered weapons, assault vehicles and tactical gear. However, after it was discovered that local police agencies were failing to keep inventories of their acquired firearms and in some cases, selling the equipment for a profit, the transfer of firearms was temporarily suspended until October 2013. In the meantime, police agencies can still receive a variety of other toys and gizmos, including “aircraft, boats, Humvees, body armor, weapon scopes, infrared imaging systems and night-vision goggles,” not to mention more general items such as “bookcases, hedge trimmers, telescopes, brassieres, golf carts, coffee makers and television sets.”

    In addition to equipping police with militarized weapons and equipment, the government has also instituted an incentive program of sorts, the Byrne Formula Grant Program, which awards federal grants based upon “the number of overall arrests, the number of warrants served or the number of drug seizures.” A sizable chunk of taxpayer money has kept the program in full swing over the years. Through the Clinton administration, the program was funded with about $500 million. By 2008, the Bush administration had reduced the budget to about $170 million, less out of concern for the militarization of police forces and more to reduce federal influence on law enforcement matters. However, Barack Obama boosted the program again at the beginning of his term, using the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act to inject $2 billion into the program.

    When it comes to SWAT-style tactics being used in routine policing, the federal government is one of the largest offenders, with multiple agencies touting their own SWAT teams, including the US Fish and Wildlife Service, Consumer Product Safety Commission, NASA, the Department of Education, the Department of Health and Human Services, the US National Park Service, and the FDA.

    Clearly, the government has all but asphyxiated the Fourth Amendment, but what about the Third Amendment, which has been interpreted to not only prohibit the quartering of soldiers in one’s home and martial law but standing armies? While most Americans—and the courts—largely overlook this amendment, which at a minimum bars the government from stationing soldiers in civilian homes during times of peace, it is far from irrelevant to our age. Indeed, with some police units equivalent in size, weaponry and tactics to military forces, a case could well be made that the Third Amendment is routinely being violated every time a SWAT team crashes through a door.

    A vivid example of this took place on July 10, 2011, in Henderson, Nevada, when local police informed homeowner Anthony Mitchell that they wanted to occupy his home in order to gain a “tactical advantage” in dealing with a domestic abuse case in an adjacent home. Mitchell refused the request, but this didn’t deter the police, who broke down Mitchell’s front door using a battering ram. Five officers pointed weapons at him, ordering him to the ground, where they shot him with pepper-ball projectiles.

    The point is this: America today is not much different from the America of the early colonists, who had to contend with British soldiers who were allowed to “enter private homes, confiscate what they found, and often keep the bounty for themselves.” This practice is echoed today through SWAT team raids and the execution of so-called asset forfeiture laws, “which allow police to seize and keep for their departments cash, cars, luxury goods and even homes, often under only the thinnest allegation of criminality.”

    It is this intersection of law enforcement and military capability which so worried the founding fathers and which should worry us today. What Americans must decide is what they’re going to do about this occupation of our cities and towns by standing armies operating under the guise of keeping the peace.

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    • #62
      Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

      Good find, lektrode. Thanks for posting.

      Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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      • #63
        Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

        Originally posted by jk View Post
        term limits would guarantee that elected officials were newbies on every issue, at the mercy of permanent staff and - more so- permanent lobbies. i think much more helpful, though at least as unlikely, would be public funding of elections and a very limited period for campaigning.
        well, ok jk - i'll take 1 outa 3.

        but i do think that with a few simple rules - to prevent the lobby 'industry' from totally corralling (corrupting) congress any more than they already have - with our congresscritters already over the top complicit in this - and while the lobby crowd does provide some measure of benefit to the legislative process (tuning up the members lack of knowledge/experience etc in various critical matters before them - which just brings up another question - since most of em have law degrees, which indicates a certain level of both wide-ranging knowledge and intelligence (assuming they didnt get 4-8years of advanced degrees from some carribean/online diploma mill, 'funded' by fed-funded FIre loans) as well as certain/definite ability to learn/research NEW stuff - so just why is so much lobbying even necessary???)

        but i digress - i dont think that changing the rules to prevent such from occurring would be all that difficult.

        again, NH's experience over the past nearly 400years - with essentially a volunteer legislature - would seem to indicate that the sausage making process isnt all that rocket-science like.

        and having rules that spell out precisely what/when lobbyists be brought in to consult for, with specific credentials that prove the appropriateness of their backgound (vs their revolving-door crudentshulls and crony-connectedness) shouldnt be all that difficult - since, after all, private sector businesses do it every day??

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        • #64
          Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

          Originally posted by shiny! View Post
          Are you talking about changing things from outside the Federal legislative system? Protests, strikes. boycotts? Something else? With all the advanced crowd control technology at police/military disposal, is that even possible anymore?
          Yes and yes it is still possible. You don't have to take to the streets to make an impact. If enough people for example stopped paying their taxes, that could effect change.
          Will middle class people rise up in protest if a stint in jail means losing their job and then losing their house because they missed their mortgage payment? That's the real, underlying reason for the "American Dream" of universal home ownership.
          This is why it takes enough people to make jailing them all impossible. I don't know what you mean about the underlying reason for the American Dream.

          Will people protest if it means losing welfare/unemployment/food stamp or health care benefits? Do most people receiving safety net benefits even want change to a smaller government? Is that the intended consequence of making so many people dependent on government?
          Do the recipients of benefits want them to stop? Of course not. The intended consequence is to buy votes with taxpayer money. I don't think it's conscious effort to change people's desire for small government exactly. That's just a secondary consequence.

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          • #65
            Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

            Originally posted by DSpencer View Post
            Yes and yes it is still possible. You don't have to take to the streets to make an impact. If enough people for example stopped paying their taxes, that could effect change. This is why it takes enough people to make jailing them all impossible.

            I don't know what you mean about the underlying reason for the American Dream.
            Thanks for clarifying.

            This is how I heard it:

            Back in the 1930's there was a rising tide of Communism in the United States. Leaders in Washington got nervous. They decided that a good way to pacify the populace would be to convince everyone that every American should endeavor to own their own home. By buying a house, they would be tied to a mortgage for decades. People are reluctant to engage in social protests, running the risk of arrest, missing work and losing their jobs, if they fear it will cause them to miss a mortgage payment and lose their home.

            So The American Dream of universal home ownership was born. The belief that every American should own their own home was created as a way to saddle the growing middle class with so much responsibility that they would never engage in violent protest against the government.

            I've heard that Alan Greenspan corroborated this story, but I can't find the source.

            Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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            • #66
              Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

              this reference traces the gov't promotion of home ownership back to 1918.

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              • #67
                Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

                Originally posted by jk View Post
                this reference traces the gov't promotion of home ownership back to 1918.
                Thanks, jk.

                The government's objective was to defeat radical protest and restore political stability by encouraging urban workers to become homeowners.

                Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                • #68
                  Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

                  Interesting. Never heard that before. It's a bit before my time.

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                  • #69
                    Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

                    Originally posted by DSpencer View Post
                    Interesting. Never heard that before. It's a bit before my time.
                    Before my time, too. I'm not that old ;-)

                    Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                    • #70
                      Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

                      Originally posted by jk View Post
                      this reference traces the gov't promotion of home ownership back to 1918.
                      The government's objective was to defeat radical protest and restore political stability by encouraging urban workers to become homeowners.
                      I find shiny's quote from jk's link interesting. I read the article, but found no source for this statement about the government's objective. Googling turns up references to this article, but nothing more substantial.

                      I'm not saying it's not true. It'd just be more interesting if it was better substantiated.

                      Also, without inside knowledge of the intent, how do we distinguish "defeat radical protest and restore political stability" and it's negative connotations from stopping radical protest by helping the class of people who are protesting?

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                      • #71
                        Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

                        Originally posted by LazyBoy View Post
                        I find shiny's quote from jk's link interesting. I read the article, but found no source for this statement about the government's objective. Googling turns up references to this article, but nothing more substantial.

                        I'm not saying it's not true. It'd just be more interesting if it was better substantiated.

                        Also, without inside knowledge of the intent, how do we distinguish "defeat radical protest and restore political stability" and it's negative connotations from stopping radical protest by helping the class of people who are protesting?
                        Even if the intent of the Own Your Own Home program of 1918 was to quiet discontent by saddling urban protestors with home mortgages, the program does not look to have been very successful.

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                        • #72
                          Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

                          Originally posted by LazyBoy View Post
                          I find shiny's quote from jk's link interesting. I read the article, but found no source for this statement about the government's objective. Googling turns up references to this article, but nothing more substantial.

                          I'm not saying it's not true. It'd just be more interesting if it was better substantiated.

                          Also, without inside knowledge of the intent, how do we distinguish "defeat radical protest and restore political stability" and it's negative connotations from stopping radical protest by helping the class of people who are protesting?
                          You raise a good point. I've been trying to validate this story for hours. I had heard that Alan Greenspan actually mentioned it, and IIRC, it was Bart or Finster who corroborated that Greenspan did, in fact, say that this was the original intent behind the American homeownership ideal.

                          Looking further, it seems to be mentioned in a book by Dolores Hayden, "The Grand Domestic Revolution" on page 283. Google books has pages 282 and 284, but not 283. I was able to copy this out from page 284, though:

                          The man owns his home but in a sense his home owns him, checking his rash impulses... Or, as another official puts it, "Get them to invest their savings in homes and own them. Then they won't leave and they won't strike. It ties them down so they have a stake in our prosperity" All these statements reflected attitudes expressed by the National Civic Federation of America, an association dedicated to amicable settlements of conflicts between capital and labor.
                          It seems that wealthy American industrialists believed that if workers owned their own homes they would be more dependent on their employers, more worried about losing their jobs, less willing to strike or engage in protests, and less able to simply pick up and leave if they were unhappy with working conditions.

                          They were right. Today, it's not only homeownership that keeps people tied down to jobs they hate, but employer-provided health insurance benefits.

                          Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                          • #73
                            Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

                            another piece of the pie(uzzle)

                            not sure whats more interesting, those mentioned, or from whence it came.

                            but always like to put a piece into place - of the puzzle...

                            Burton: The elephant in the living room on Bezos deal


                            By Betsy Burton

                            First Published Aug 17 2013 01:01 am • Last Updated Aug 17 2013 01:01 am
                            Why, oh, why are the journalists who’ve covered the purchase of The Washington Post ignoring the proverbial elephant in the living room: Jeff Bezos himself and the likely long-range consequences of his conduct?
                            I own an independent bookstore in Salt Lake City — have for 36 years — and Bezos’ predatory behavior in the book industry coupled with the Department of Justice attack on publishers and Apple on Amazon’s behalf read like some old-time tale of the dark side of politics. Especially now that Bezos, whom the DOJ has dramatically enabled, is discounting books at levels never before encountered in our industry — levels far under the wholesale price of books.

                            That story, a familiar American anthem of monopoly building, coupled with the purchase of The Washington Post, makes Bezos truly frightening. That’s where the real story lies. Surely someone can see the writing on the wall — the deadliness of the combination of a monopoly in the book world and control of the media and thereby politics: a first step toward which Bezos has just taken.



                            As a bookseller I have, like all of us in the book industry, bookstores and publishers alike, watched Amazon use books as loss leaders for everything else they sell, destroying our industry in the process. It’s a painful thing to witness if you value books and don’t think any one entity should ever control their production, their distribution their sale.


                            The fact that Amazon doesn’t have to pay sales tax — something all brick-and-mortar businesses, independents and chains alike, must do here — makes competition with them difficult to say the least (and also hard on the local economy, to put it mildly). More painful to witness is the attack on our industry in the courts even while many of the banks and corporations responsible for so much wrongdoing go free.


                            It’s all happening under the aegis of Eric Holder’s Department of Justice. And, it’s of note that Holder’s former DOJ colleague, Jamie Gorelick, now serves on the Amazon board.


                            Apparently our president, too, supports Amazon. Why else would he have chosen the venue of an Amazon warehouse for his recent press conference?


                            I really thought he supported small business and the middle class. Instead he puts his clout behind Amazon’s unbridled attempts to create a monopoly not just in the book business but in retail overall, enabled by investors with their eyes on the prize of total market domination who don’t even expect profits, indeed are fine with continued quarterly and annual losses.


                            This is an economic model that, long term, will lead to economic (not to mention social) disaster for our country and for every one of our communities. Amazon pays wages that rival Walmart’s in their inadequacy while small business provides economic and social sustenance for every community of which they’re a member, and for the nation as a whole.


                            In little old Utah, locally owned independent businesses return four times as much to the local economy as do chains. Go to the website www.localfirst.org and read the studies you’ll find there. As if this weren’t telling enough, Internet retail returns next to nothing. Talk about a recipe for national bankruptcy!


                            You’ll find statistics like these, facts like these, in state after state across the country from Texas to Maine to Obama’s home state of Illinois.


                            The economy isn’t just about multinational corporations. Collectively, we (small businesses) count for far more in terms of dollars, not to mention all the benefits provided by a web of community. And books are about more than mere money. So is the media. Both are about the control of ideas.


                            There’s the real story — a story that almost everyone to date has missed, especially the media!


                            Betsy Burton owns The King’s English Bookshop in Salt Lake City.

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                            • #74
                              Re: WaPo to be sold to Bezos. Now we know why Sir Warren stepped down from the board

                              The whole "free shipping" no taxes on internet purchases is a joke. Tax policy is always set by the filthy rich. It's their world. We just shop in it.

                              http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...xes-95246.html

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