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  • Why surveillance matters: the effect of NYPD surveillance on the Muslim community

    This report is about the NYPD's systematic surveillance of Muslims in (and around) New York, but it really could be any minority group and any authoritative agency. It could even be all of us under a 'new regime' of US government at a flip of a switch, as Snowden has shown.

    http://www.law.cuny.edu/academics/cl...ng-Muslims.pdf

    Some excerpts:

    Since 2001, the New York City Police Department (NYPD) has established a secret surveillance program that has mapped, monitored and analyzed American Muslim daily life throughout New York City, and even its surrounding states.

    ...

    Almost a year later, in August 2012, the Chief of the NYPD Intelligence Division, Lt. Paul Galati admitted during sworn testimony that in the six years of his tenure, the unit tasked with monitoring American Muslim life had not yielded a single criminal lead.

    Proponents of the sprawling surveillance enterprise have argued that, regardless of its inefficacy, mere spying on a community is harmless because it is clandestine and that those who are targeted should have

    nothing to fear, if they have nothing to hide {Sound familiar?}.

    Our findings, based on an unprecedented number of candid interviews with American Muslim community members, paint a radically different picture. We have found that surveillance of Muslims’ quotidian activities has created a pervasive climate of fear and suspicion, encroaching upon every aspect of individual and community life. Surveillance has chilled constitutionally protected rights—curtailing religious practice, censoring speech and stunting political organizing. Every one of our interviewees noted that they were negatively affected by surveillance in some way - whether it was by reducing their political or religious expression, altering the way they exercised those rights (through clarifications, precautions, or avoiding certain interlocutors), or in experiencing social and familial pressures to reduce their activism. Additionally, surveillance has severed the trust that should exist between the police department and the communities it is charged with protecting.


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    Re: Why surveillance matters: the effect of NYPD surveillance on the Muslim community

    Originally posted by c1ue View Post
    This report is about the NYPD's systematic surveillance of Muslims in (and around) New York, but it really could be any minority group and any authoritative agency. It could even be all of us under a 'new regime' of US government at a flip of a switch, as Snowden has shown.

    http://www.law.cuny.edu/academics/cl...ng-Muslims.pdf

    Some excerpts:
    "Additionally, surveillance has severed the trust that should exist between the police department and the communities it is charged with protecting."



    Strange...that idea of trusting the police sounds very quaint and old fashioned, and yet, I have never in 58 years had any experience to invalidate the idea. Or known anyone that I personally know to be abused by the Police. On the other hand, I am of German/Austrian origen, and only once did any activism...and got my whole senior class in High school suspended, and that was only over a dress code. I also tend not to make waves outside of customary irritation with politics...strong opinions, and I vote.

    I can't but help wonder if the article is exaggerating...or that the Muslim's are. They are used to very close oversight in their homelands, just by their neighbors, since political/liberal speech of every kind is frowned on, if not prohibited on a Religious basis alone, and it is the Clerics that do the majority of talking, and activism.

    Still, no one should have the ability to chill any speech in this country, at least, so long as they are calm and non-violent about it. It is a pity that Muslims have such a bad reputation for violence, and that their religion does not just promote it, but ties their salvation to it.

    I was in town yesterday, and couldn't help but notice the new camera's everywhere, at every stop. One cannot but be thankful that digging through pictures is a still a very time intensive, man-hour eating activity. It gives one hope, despite computer technology, that there will be insufficient time for the KGB...sorry, the TSA, to look through it all.

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      Re: Why surveillance matters: the effect of NYPD surveillance on the Muslim community

      The convergence of NYPD and the CIA is a strange one:

      http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-the-nypd.html

      There's plenty of other content out there on this and related topics such as the convergence of NYPD and Wall Street:

      http://www.salon.com/2011/10/07/the_...y_wall_street/

      As the current and eventually outgoing centre of the financial universe NYPD has been accused of conducting operations well outside of it's traditional jurisdiction across the US and across the world.

      It's not just a question of unwarranted persistent surveillance, but also this strange fusion of overlapping circles consisting of local, federal, and special interests.

      I CAN understand both the desire and genuine need for national intelligence to liaise with local law enforcement in dealing with asymmetric threats. It's a different world from the days of playing spy versus spy with foreign diplomats and professional intelligence officers.

      One of the things I tend to think about is open source aspects of intelligence collections activities conducted by UK Forces in Northern Ireland until the Good Friday Agreement.

      Data collection was very considerable and quite sophisticated from an IT perspective for the period.

      The ability to collect on individuals and communities is considerably greater today, but what the UK did in Northern Ireland is a base from which it may be possible to extrapolate current collection efforts and capabilities.

      Key differences being that there were 100+ active well trained and well armed insurgents in Northern Ireland while there aren't any/many in New York.

      It's a tough dilemma.

      IF US foreign policy decisions past/present/future genuinely increase the risk of asymmetric attack against the US, then NYPD has to respond...which can reinforce the problem outside of the ability of NY and the NYPD to control.

      Or does it risk having law enforcement/surveillance capabilities and policies that allow leakers to get thru?

      The only thing since 2001 seems to be amateur hour.

      I'm not a fan of a number of NYPD policies, one of which is the deployment of NYPD Hercules Teams such as these guys:



      I've been to places where I've needed to overtly wear body armor, helmet, webbing, rifle, eye pro.

      Rule #1 is that where ever possible(threat level allows) when engaging with the public it is helmet off(attached to webbing) and soft cap on, sunglasses off because it's rude to engage in conversation with someone without letting them also see your eyes, weapon slung to the side as discretely as possible to reduce the barrier all that ninja gear puts between yourself and the public.

      These guys are professionals. They may look pretty sacky, but they are professionals....professionals following a specific policy.

      I simply don't believe the argument that this intentional Police policy acts as a deterrent. I just about believe they are there to intimidate. And not just potential bad guys.

      If anything it places further distance between the law abiding public and law enforcement and makes them less approachable.

      You can fly into Changi Airport in Singers, one of the more surveillance heavy states NY seems to be trying to replicate, and find National Servicemen in the Singaporean Army in uniform carry weapons in a far more professional and approachable manner at a key infrastructure point(national airport) compared with these two standing on a random Manhattan street with high footcount and exceptionally low threat level and local daytime crime.

      I find this entirely unacceptable, but what would their response be if you discussed this point with them?

      Random "stop and frisk" and data point collection?

      Trust me, a handful or even just 1 well trained person with limited resources could cause outsized events......so where are they?

      I certainly don't want such events to happen, but I find it hard to believe that trained and motivated individuals have been stopped/deterred(but we can't know details) while the odd complete muppet nearly causes a bit of trouble.

      To me it seems to completely epitomize "Don't let a good crisis go to waste."

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        Re: Why surveillance matters: the effect of NYPD surveillance on the Muslim community

        Ugh, more fear propaganda.

        I'm not saying key figures in the public are not monitored, but it's far more covert then this - it's thru business associations, membership groups, religious affiliations, etc. It's extremely naive to think that this kind of signal intel would be trusted to an instrument so blunt as a police force.

        You know, continuing to quote media signals is not the best way to unravel the onion.
        The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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