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    Despite the 6.5% stock market rally over the last three months, a handful of billionaires are quietly dumping their American stocks . . . and fast.

    Warren Buffett, who has been a cheerleader for U.S. stocks for quite some time, is dumping shares at an alarming rate. He recently complained of “disappointing performance” in dyed-in-the-wool American companies like Johnson & Johnson, Procter & Gamble, and Kraft Foods.

    In the latest filing for Buffett’s holding company Berkshire Hathaway, Buffett has been drastically reducing his exposure to stocks that depend on consumer purchasing habits. Berkshire sold roughly 19 million shares of Johnson & Johnson, and reduced his overall stake in “consumer product stocks” by 21%. Berkshire Hathaway also sold its entire stake in California-based computer parts supplier Intel.

    With 70% of the U.S. economy dependent on consumer spending, Buffett’s apparent lack of faith in these companies’ future prospects is worrisome.

    Unfortunately Buffett isn’t alone.

    Fellow billionaire John Paulson, who made a fortune betting on the subprime mortgage meltdown, is clearing out of U.S. stocks too. During the second quarter of the year, Paulson’s hedge fund, Paulson & Co., dumped 14 million shares of JPMorgan Chase. The fund also dumped its entire position in discount retailer Family Dollar and consumer-goods maker Sara Lee.

    Finally, billionaire George Soros recently sold nearly all of his bank stocks, including shares of JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, and Goldman Sachs. Between the three banks, Soros sold more than a million shares.

    So why are these billionaires dumping their shares of U.S. companies?

    After all, the stock market is still in the midst of its historic rally. Real estate prices have finally leveled off, and for the first time in five years are actually rising in many locations. And the unemployment rate seems to have stabilized.

    It’s very likely that these professional investors are aware of specific research that points toward a massive market correction, as much as 90%.

    One such person publishing this research is Robert Wiedemer, an esteemed economist and author of the New York Times best-selling book Aftershock.

    Before you dismiss the possibility of a 90% drop in the stock market as unrealistic, consider Wiedemer’s credentials.

    In 2006, Wiedemer and a team of economists accurately predicted the collapse of the U.S. housing market, equity markets, and consumer spending that almost sank the United States. They published their research in the book America’s Bubble Economy.

    The book quickly grabbed headlines for its accuracy in predicting what many thought would never happen, and quickly established Wiedemer as a trusted voice.

    A columnist at Dow Jones said the book was “one of those rare finds that not only predicted the subprime credit meltdown well in advance, it offered Main Street investors a winning strategy that helped avoid the forty percent losses that followed . . .”

    The chief investment strategist at Standard & Poor’s said that Wiedemer’s track record “demands our attention.”

    And finally, the former CFO of Goldman Sachs said Wiedemer’s “prescience in (his) first book lends credence to the new warnings. This book deserves our attention.”

    In the interview for his latest blockbuster Aftershock, Wiedemer says the 90% drop in the stock market is “a worst-case scenario,” and the host quickly challenged this claim.

    Wiedemer calmly laid out a clear explanation of why a large drop of some sort is a virtual certainty.

    It starts with the reckless strategy of the Federal Reserve to print a massive amount of money out of thin air in an attempt to stimulate the economy.

    “These funds haven’t made it into the markets and the economy yet. But it is a mathematical certainty that once the dam breaks, and this money passes through the reserves and hits the markets, inflation will surge,” said Wiedemer.

    “Once you hit 10% inflation, 10-year Treasury bonds lose about half their value. And by 20%, any value is all but gone. Interest rates will increase dramatically at this point, and that will cause real estate values to collapse. And the stock market will collapse as a consequence of these other problems.”

    And this is where Wiedemer explains why Buffett, Paulson, and Soros could be dumping U.S. stocks:

    “Companies will be spending more money on borrowing costs than business expansion costs. That means lower profit margins, lower dividends, and less hiring. Plus, more layoffs.”

    No investors, let alone billionaires, will want to own stocks with falling profit margins and shrinking dividends. So if that’s why Buffett, Paulson, and Soros are dumping stocks, they have decided to cash out early and leave Main Street investors holding the bag.

    But Main Street investors don’t have to see their investment and retirement accounts decimated for the second time in five years.

    Wiedemer’s video interview also contains a comprehensive blueprint for economic survival that’s really commanding global attention.

    Now viewed over 40 million times, it was initially screened for a relatively small, private audience. But the overwhelming amount of feedback from viewers who felt the interview should be widely publicized came with consequences, as various online networks repeatedly shut it down and affiliates refused to house the content.

    “People were sitting up and taking notice, and they begged us to make the interview public so they could easily share it,” said Newsmax Financial Publisher Aaron DeHoog.

    “Our real concern,” DeHoog added, “is the effect even if only half of Wiedemer’s predictions come true.

    “That’s a scary thought for sure. But we want the average American to be prepared, and that is why we will continue to push this video to as many outlets as we can. We want the word to spread.”





  • #2
    Re: Billionaires dumping stocks?

    money 'news' = spam.

    crappiest financial crap on the web.

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    • #3
      Re: Billionaires dumping stocks?

      Originally posted by metalman View Post
      i was skeptical about it, hence the question mark. So is buffet and Soros still buying?


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      • #4
        Re: Billionaires dumping stocks?

        Berkshire Hathaway yesterday announced the acquisition of NV Energy (NVE) for $5.6 billion
        http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...94S1BK20130529

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        • #5
          Re: Billionaires dumping stocks?

          intel has 17B in cash, 13B in debt, and an ebita of 21B. I don't think they are worried about rolling over their debt. I think a fab plant costs a billion.
          That is 1 months profits for intel. JNJ has a similar position of more cash than debt and massive profits. There are probably lots of leveraged companies
          that will blow up, but not these.

          90% does seem a little extreeme. I would give it more along the lines of 66% crash. Alot also depends upon the denominator of the price namely the USD.

          Of course if rates on T's go up to 10% its game over. With a debt load / GDP of 350%. We were no nearly as leveraged as the 1979 - 1985 high inflation/interest rate years. This analysis seems a little sophmoric

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            Re: Billionaires dumping stocks?

            Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
            intel has 17B in cash, 13B in debt, and an ebita of 21B. I don't think they are worried about rolling over their debt. I think a fab plant costs a billion. That is 1 months profits for intel.
            Intels Fab42 (USA, AZ, Chandler) plant built in 2013 cost $5 billion. They also have a USA, OR, Hillsboro plant listed for 2013. GlobalFoundries Fab 8 in USA, NY, Malta cost $4.6 billion. (Wikipedia)

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            • #7
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              thanks for kicking my lazy brain into gear.

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              • #8
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                This is an advertisement .... It is spam that hides itself as "news"
                The book is the best doomed porn you can read these days.

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                • #9
                  Re: Billionaires dumping stocks?

                  I feel bad for posting this now. Sorry guys


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                  • #10
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                    Its not a bad plan to predict disaster. If it doesn't happen , you and everyone else may carry on, and being a discredited prognosticator should not impact a day job. If it does happen, even just by chance, a famous prophet will never lack food or shelter.
                    Last edited by gwynedd1; May 31, 2013, 03:40 PM.

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                    • #11
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                      Originally posted by verdo View Post
                      I feel bad for posting this now. Sorry guys
                      Don't. One of the books being described is EJ's. A lot of the ideas might sound familiar because they are derived from his. The fact that some of his former co-authors appear to have lowered their standards in pitching their sequel is not so obvious that "anyone should have known" before posting.

                      I have no idea if the sequel is as well-informed as the first, but since EJ wasn't contributing, I rather doubt it. I believe that this was commented on several times before on this site, so you wouldn't be the first to bring it up here. ;-)

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by astonas View Post
                        Don't. One of the books being described is EJ's. A lot of the ideas might sound familiar because they are derived from his. The fact that some of his former co-authors appear to have lowered their standards in pitching their sequel is not so obvious that "anyone should have known" before posting.

                        I have no idea if the sequel is as well-informed as the first, but since EJ wasn't contributing, I rather doubt it. I believe that this was commented on several times before on this site, so you wouldn't be the first to bring it up here. ;-)
                        61 of 71 people found the following review helpful
                        1.0 out of 5 stars A repetitive, unimaginative bore, December 22, 2006
                        By
                        ThriftyDrifty (San Diego) - See all my reviews

                        This review is from: America's Bubble Economy: Profit When It Pops (Hardcover)

                        The authors' thesis is correct. Yes, the real estate market, the stock market, and the dollar are part of one big bubble, and America will have gum on its face when it pops.

                        But the book is a repetitive, unimaginative bore. Points are repeated again and again, ad nauseum. After a couple of chapters, I concluded that the authors, motivated perhaps by fast money, slapped this project together, stretching what could have been a one-page magazine piece into a book. "America's Bubble Economy" is largely bereft of original ideas. The statistics and charts are simple-minded, the writing uninspired. Several times, exasperated, I threw the book down and went to sleep. But, almost certain that their thesis (though hardly original) is correct, I plodded on and finished it, like someone forced to take his medicine.

                        The only bright spot is Eric Janszen's engaging chapter on gold. Recognizing that gold's value will be as a hedge against inflation, Janszen, slyly placing the words in quotes, says that investors can "make money" on gold. That is, until, at some distant time, gold itself becomes a bubble and pops.

                        And so the book earns a single gold star, rather than none.

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                          haha I agree with that review exactly. in fact, the book was so bad and janszen's writing so good, that in comparison it made EJ's writing look almost super human. that gold chapter is what sent me immediately hunting for iTulip.com and I've been a member here ever since

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                          • #14
                            Re: Billionaires dumping stocks?

                            Originally posted by astonas View Post
                            Don't. One of the books being described is EJ's. A lot of the ideas might sound familiar because they are derived from his. The fact that some of his former co-authors appear to have lowered their standards in pitching their sequel is not so obvious that "anyone should have known" before posting.

                            I have no idea if the sequel is as well-informed as the first, but since EJ wasn't contributing, I rather doubt it. I believe that this was commented on several times before on this site, so you wouldn't be the first to bring it up here. ;-)
                            ah gotcha. Speaking of which, I actually have yet to read Eric's book. I imagine what was written inside isn't too outdated yet so perhaps ill pick it up this summer


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                            • #15
                              Re: Billionaires dumping stocks?

                              Originally posted by charliebrown
                              intel has 17B in cash, 13B in debt, and an ebita of 21B. I don't think they are worried about rolling over their debt. I think a fab plant costs a billion.
                              That is 1 months profits for intel. JNJ has a similar position of more cash than debt and massive profits. There are probably lots of leveraged companies
                              that will blow up, but not these.
                              Intel does have a serious issue with its core business. Basically there hasn't been a 'killer app' to drive high end processor sales.

                              As a direct consequence, people aren't buying new computers nearly as quickly as they have been in the past. This is leading to Intel not reaping the profits from its fabs as it had expected to do - leading Intel to actually produce other people's stuff in their fabs. This last bit has not happened with any significant volume for a long time.

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