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  • Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 05/14/2013 17:26 -0400
    Submitted by Brandon Smith of Alt-Market blog,
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...er-become-gods


    For those who have studied the musings of the global elites, one primary “theology” rises to the surface, and it is this theology that appears to be the apex motivation in everything that they do. This “religion”, as it were, does not revolve around the worship of any single deity. Though the globalists fancy themselves academics of mythology and secret spiritualisms, in the end, they do not seek to worship a god; rather, they desire to be “worshiped” as “gods”.

    This hubris is best exposed in the works of "Technocrats", “Futurists” and “Transhumanists”; a community of eugenics obsessed elites dabbling mostly in scientific fields that claim to only be interested in identifying or predicting “future trends”. In reality, they believe in ENGINEERING future trends. They hold that technological advancement supersedes all other social concerns, and, that “old beliefs” and principles must be constantly discarded to make room for the “new”, the “modern”, the “streamlined”, or the “centralized”, which they arbitrarily deem superior.

    For them, the concept of evolution is not limited to biology. They feel that the “survival of the fittest” dogma must also be applied to cultural structures, as well as cultural values.

    What proponents of futurist ideals salivate over is a kind of full-spectrum control over their environment, over nature, over genetics, over matter, and over the human mind. Their rationale for this pursuit? They think that they can do it all better than the original design! This assumption is summed up well in the words of Sir Francis Galton, the official founder of the Eugenics movement:

    "What nature does blindly, slowly and ruthlessly, man may do providently, quickly, and kindly. As it lies within his power, so it becomes his duty to work in that direction."

    Or the pontifications of early transhumanist R.C.W. Ettinger:

    “Humanity itself is a disease, of which we must now proceed to cure ourselves…Surely it will be an advantage to be able to ‘turn off’ or ‘tune out’ one’s emotions at will, choosing fully to savor only those that are enjoyable…”

    Or the creepy zealotry of futurist Barbara Max Hubbard:

    "Out of the full spectrum of human personality, one-fourth is electing to transcend…One-fourth is ready to so choose, given the example of one other…One-fourth is resistant to election. They are unattracted by life ever-evolving. One-fourth is destructive. They are born angry with God…They are defective seeds…There have always been defective seeds. In the past they were permitted to die a ‘natural death’…We, the elders, have been patiently waiting until the very last moment before the quantum transformation, to take action to cut out this corrupted and corrupting element in the body of humanity. It is like watching a cancer grow…Now, as we approach the quantum shift from creature-human to co-creative human—the human who is an inheritor of god-like powers—the destructive one-fourth must be eliminated from the social body…”

    The manipulation of man’s world (or his perception of the world) by the elect is thus dramatized as an act of benevolence and kindness, or an act of survival necessity, while the collateral damage accrued in the process is presented as an acceptable price compared to the long and coldly arduous cycles of nature. The problem, however, is that the elites have forgotten to ask an eminently important question: Is the kind of control they hope to gain really possible?

    The answer is, in fact, already known, and that answer is an emphatic “No”. Let’s set aside the obvious moral minefield involved in the act of playing god and examine the science of the matter, which is the only thing the elites care about anyway.

    In order to achieve “godhood”, I think it would be fair to say that one must first have absolute knowledge of his surroundings. If unknowns exist, then one cannot be in control of the present, or, predict the future, and as Einstein once wisely stated, “God does not play dice…”

    The Uncertainty Principle

    The work of physicist Werner Heisenberg led to a groundbreaking pillar of quantum mechanics known as the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. Heisenberg surmised that in order to identify the future state of any object, one must know every aspect of its present state. And, to understand the object’s present state, one must have absolute knowledge of it down to the very particles that make it what it is.

    To determine the future state of a particle, like an atom, one must know at the very least it’s position, direction, and momentum. What Heisenberg discovered, though, was that any attempt to observe these qualities actually changed the nature of the particle. That is to say, there is no available method for mankind to observe a particle’s state without affecting it and redirecting it in an unknowable way. Most importantly, quantum mechanics shows us that infinite possibilities defy finite determinations. Even the act of looking at a thing can abruptly change a thing. Therefore, how can the elites believe it will ever be possible to mold their environment in a godlike fashion if the tools for such an endeavor do not and will never exist?

    The Incompleteness Proof

    The answer to the Uncertainty Principle would be to find a way to mathematically quantify “infinity”. If one can find a structure to infinity, then one can determine an infinite number of possibilities, and, thus, predict all possible outcomes. The elites are thwarted again, though, by a brilliant mathematician and close friend of Albert Einstein named Kurt Godel.

    Godel’s focus had long been to identify and define a mathematical structure for infinity. If humanity had the means to encompass the infinity concept in a mathematical equation, then clearly, all probabilities could eventually be made available by a simple matter of plugging numbers into a computer. Godel never found this equation. Instead, what he found rocked the core of the scientific community and flustered prominent global elitists like Bertrand Russell.

    The Incompleteness Proof became Godel’s crowning achievement, though it proved the exact opposite of what he had originally planned to find. Ironically, Godel’s mathematical model established, without question, that infinity cannot be quantified by mathematics, and that there is no scientific formula that encompasses all things. The proof does this using what we now call a “self inclusive paradox”. A simplified example of this ides is represented in this word puzzle:

    “Everything I say is a lie”

    If I lied, then is everything I say actually a lie? The circle goes on forever and defies logical explanation. Godel placed this puzzle in the form of an equation, and ended the elitist delusion that all things could one day be dissected by math. Now, there are those who respond to this fact by quipping that “some things are unknowable, until we know them…” These folks do not understand what a mathematical proof is.

    A “proof” is an undeniable mathematical reality that will never change, and will never be undone. For instant, one plus one will ALWAYS equal two. Always. There is no future date in which this equation will not represent concrete fact. The same goes for the Incompleteness Proof. Bertrand Russell, a prominent supporter of the New World Order with visions of scientific dictatorship sought desperately to dismantle Godel’s Incompleteness Proof, even to the point of writing a massive three volume mathematical theorem, the Principia Mathematica, that fell utterly flat. Just in case you are not aware of what kind of man Russell was, here a quote to educate you:

    “After all, most civilized and semi-civilized countries known to history and had a large class of slaves or serfs completely subordinate to their owners. There is nothing in human nature that makes the persistence of such a system impossible. And the whole development of scientific technique has made it easier than it used to be to maintain a despotic rule of a minority. When the government controls the distribution of food, its power is absolute so long as they can count on the police and the armed forces. And their loyalty can be secured by giving them some of the privileges of the governing class. I do not see how any internal movement of revolt can ever bring freedom to the oppressed in a modern scientific dictatorship…” - Bertrand Russell, The Impact Of Science On Society

    Russell expended so much effort in vain against Godel’s proof because it threatened his globalist theology of human godhood. If the universe could not be fully defined through numbers, then the elites would never be all knowing deities. They are already aware that their goal is unattainable, and yet, they continue in their insanity to press forward…

    Inherent Psychological Knowledge

    If the elites cannot control the very fabric of the universe, then they have revealed through their methodologies that they would at least be satisfied with controlling the human mind. If they can control perception, then they can manipulate the masses into believing that they are gods, even if they never will be.

    The key to perception control, at least in theory, is to gain dominance of environmental conditions within society. In other words, use people as blank canvases and paint them as you please. This strategy assumes, however, that people are “blank canvases”, and that human character and ideology is determined solely by environment. This philosophy of mass mental molding was undone by the studies of Carl Gustav Jung, a psychologist who was booted out of the mainstream psychiatric community because his findings destroyed the blank slate assertions of the Freudian model.

    Jung discovered that the mind was, in fact, not “blank”. Rather, the building blocks of certain knowledge, personality, and even moral conscience were inherent at birth. This inborn knowledge gave humanity the virtue of choice; and if people are born with the ability to choose, then their environment is only as influential as they choose to let it be. This limits technocrats to medicinal suppression of preexisting personality traits, which is not "godlike" at all. The suppression of personality is a far cry from the creation of personality.

    The question of where, exactly, inherent knowledge comes from, must also be a frustrating conundrum for the elites. One might discard religion, but it would appear that even the sciences suggest that there is another force or intelligence out there, far beyond the capabilities of man’s observation, or ability.

    Children In A Sandbox

    When I look at the entire summation of elitist efforts to remake the world, all I see is a naïve reorganizing of a much greater work of art. Life is not perfect, at least, not by our definition, but life is also not a science; it is an emotional creation, with an emotional and spiritual brand of “logic”. The rational Puritanism and technocultism of the globalists could never hope to unravel the mysteries of our universe, or our existence. You can never truly know what you do not truly love

    Invasive technologies, psychiatric manipulation, and genetic tinkering are, at bottom, nothing but mud-play in an imaginary sandbox. The elites want godlike power, but the greatest power of god is to create from nothingness. Technocrats do not create. Instead, they violently scoop up what already exists and fumble with it wildly, stupidly, fancying themselves omnipotent, like children lording over the ocean while pretending it’s a fish tank.

    They do not comprehend the substance of what they meddle in, and this is their greatest downfall. You cannot improve on something you do not understand.

    I do not subscribe to the notion that humanity exists only to subsist and to procreate. I do not believe we are meant to remain in the dark as to the nature of life. If that were the case then we would not have been endowed with such insatiable curiosity, or the free will to follow it. I do believe that we are here to learn, and to grow, and to find solace in a greater recognition of our existence. That said, there is a vast difference between knowing a thing, and trying to control a thing. For the elites, understanding is not enough. For the elites, understanding is only a door to dominance.

    Luckily, fundamental unknowns derail the pursuit of full knowledge, and thus, full control. The universe has its own checks and balances in place to counter the ambitious, striking down thirsty faux gods who reach too high for what they do not respect, and will never deserve.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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    Re: Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods



    Ozymandias

    I met a traveller from an antique land
    Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
    Stand in the desart. Near them, on the sand,
    Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
    And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
    Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
    Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
    The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
    And on the pedestal these words appear:
    "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
    Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
    Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
    Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
    The lone and level sands stretch far away.

    Percy Bysshe Shelley. 1819

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    • #3
      Re: Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods

      Originally posted by Woodsman View Post


      Ozymandias

      I met a traveller from an antique land
      Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
      Stand in the desart. Near them, on the sand,
      Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
      And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
      Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
      Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
      The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
      And on the pedestal these words appear:
      "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
      Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
      Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
      Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
      The lone and level sands stretch far away.

      Percy Bysshe Shelley. 1819
      Yes, the system only works if it is monolithic in all of its aspects, which is why the miltary refers to it as Full Spectrum Dominance. They aren't kidding about the Full Spectrum part.
      The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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      • #4
        Re: Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods

        The best of all things is never to be borne,
        but being born, best then to speed
        straightaway to hell and there sleep
        under the weighty shield of earth.
        Theognis

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        • #5
          Re: Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods

          The article is full of inaccuracies - Russell wrote the Principia before Godel's incompleteness Thereom, which was in fact itself a response to the Principia. Math Proofs rest on axioms, math in its entirety in fact rest on axioms, these axioms can be choosen as one wishes. A proof is only as good as the axioms it rests upon. Change the axioms the proof may no longer be logical consistent within in the new system.

          The many paradoxes arising from Cantors work on infinities lead to Hilbert and Russell among others to instigate major programs to address these problems which had begun to "plague" mathematics, in an effort at putting Mathematics back on terra firma, but ultimately ending in failure. Paradoxes remain to this day and are to be found at the very heart of Mathematics. Godel showed it may well indeed be impossible to really deal with them as they seem to be inherent to any sufficently powerful system. No conspiracy, fasinating none the less.

          Interestingly, use of the axiom of choice, leads to the BanachTarski paradox where it can be shown 1 = 2.
          Last edited by Diarmuid; May 23, 2013, 12:32 PM.
          "that each simple substance has relations which express all the others"

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            Re: Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods

            Originally posted by Diarmuid View Post
            The article is full of inaccuracies - Russell wrote the Principia before Godel's incompleteness Thereom, which was in fact itself a response to the Principia. Math Proofs rest on axioms, math in its entirety in fact rest on axioms, these axioms can be choosen as one wishes. A proof is only as good as the axioms it rests upon. Change the axioms the proof may no longer be logical consistent within in the new system.

            The many paradoxes arising from Cantors work on infinities lead to Hilbert and Russell among others to instigate major programs to address these problems which had begun to "plague" mathematics, in an effort at putting Mathematics back on terra firma, but ultimately ending in failure. Paradoxes remain to this day and are to be found at the very heart of Mathematics. Godel showed it may well indeed be impossible to really deal with them as they seem to be inherent to any sufficently powerful system. No conspiracy, fasinating none the less.

            Interestingly, use of the axiom of choice, leads to the BanachTarski paradox where it can be shown 1 = 2.
            Yeah, the pseudoscientific description of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle is similarly total claptrap.

            Originally posted by reggie View Post
            In order to achieve “godhood”, I think it would be fair to say that one must first have absolute knowledge of his surroundings. If unknowns exist, then one cannot be in control of the present, or, predict the future, and as Einstein once wisely stated, “God does not play dice…”


            The Uncertainty Principle


            The work of physicist Werner Heisenberg led to a groundbreaking pillar of quantum mechanics known as the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. Heisenberg surmised that in order to identify the future state of any object, one must know every aspect of its present state. And, to understand the object’s present state, one must have absolute knowledge of it down to the very particles that make it what it is.


            To determine the future state of a particle, like an atom, one must know at the very least it’s position, direction, and momentum. What Heisenberg discovered, though, was that any attempt to observe these qualities actually changed the nature of the particle. That is to say, there is no available method for mankind to observe a particle’s state without affecting it and redirecting it in an unknowable way. Most importantly, quantum mechanics shows us that infinite possibilities defy finite determinations. Even the act of looking at a thing can abruptly change a thing. Therefore, how can the elites believe it will ever be possible to mold their environment in a godlike fashion if the tools for such an endeavor do not and will never exist?


            [...]


            They do not comprehend the substance of what they meddle in, and this is their greatest downfall. You cannot improve on something you do not understand.


            [...]


            Luckily, fundamental unknowns derail the pursuit of full knowledge, and thus, full control. The universe has its own checks and balances in place to counter the ambitious, striking down thirsty faux gods who reach too high for what they do not respect, and will never deserve.


            It wrongly assumes that "uncertainty" is the same thing as a total lack of knowledge, which can be true in the common usage of the word, but not in the physics sense. Quantum mechanics still permits prediction (bounded by error bars) just as physics always has, through the application of operators to probability density distributions. There's no strange philosophical conundrums that this raises, just misunderstandings by people who haven't plowed through the slightly more complicated math.

            The other appeals to physics and physicists also clearly demonstrate that the only one failing to "comprehend the substance of what they meddling in" is the author of the piece.
            Last edited by astonas; May 23, 2013, 12:55 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods

              Originally posted by Diarmuid View Post
              The article is full of inaccuracies - Russell wrote the Principia before Godel's incompleteness Thereom, which was in fact itself a response to the Principia. Math Proofs rest on axioms, math in its entirety in fact rest on axioms, these axioms can be choosen as one wishes. A proof is only as good as the axioms it rests upon. Change the axioms the proof may no longer be logical consistent within in the new system.

              The many paradoxes arising from Cantors work on infinities lead to Hilbert and Russell among others to instigate major programs to address these problems which had begun to "plague" mathematics, in an effort at putting Mathematics back on terra firma, but ultimately ending in failure. Paradoxes remain to this day and are to be found at the very heart of Mathematics. Godel showed it may well indeed be impossible to really deal with them as they seem to be inherent to any sufficently powerful system. No conspiracy, fasinating none the less.

              Interestingly, use of the axiom of choice, leads to the BanachTarski paradox where it can be shown 1 = 2.
              "Paradoxes remain to this day and are to be found at the very heart of Mathematics. Godel showed it may well indeed be impossible to really deal with them as they seem to be inherent to any sufficently powerful system. No conspiracy, fasinating none the less."

              One of the primary issues, as I see it, is that these "paradoxes" can be algorthmically coded (via a form of Goedel numbering) into computer networks that provide increasingly more control over society by establishing rules that are eventually internalized by humans. This system of "paradoxes" is not discussed by the technological establishment, academcia or anyone else by that matter. Hence, the masses are sold technology as a democratic utopia with no presentation of its shortcomings and those shorcomings' impact on society and humanity. The conspiracy is a conspiracy of silence, especially amongst the vast army of technocracy workers who blindly push the techniques on their societal peers.

              By the way, I agree that the article possesses errors, but these errors do not dilute the larger point and the significance of the discusison that is NOT taking place.
              The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                Re: Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods

                Why would anyone believe that the scientists are "naive"? (see red excerpt below)

                The Technological Society
                http://www.amazon.com/The-Technologi.../dp/0394703901



                Technique - the bedrock of the modern world, June 7, 2004
                By Jonathan Armstrong "enantidromian" (Denver, CO United States)

                Before proceeding with this review, let me just say that no fewer than a hundred pages could be trimmed from its content without diluting its message at all. Many of the examples used in the book are extremely dated; while I think I'm fairly well read, I confess that I'm not really up on the vicissitudes and catfights of French academic sociology in the early 1960's (to give but one example). With that being said, this book is worth well worth the time spent reading its 436 pages.

                This is undoubtedly one of the most important books of the twentieth century, and if you accept its thesis you won't be able to look at the political milieu in the same way ever again. (If you agree with it and it doesn't change the way you look at things, you haven't grasped its importance.) Most political theorists take ideology to be a central point from which "real world" consequences emanate. In other words, a Communist or libertarian ideology in practical use will produce a particular type society and individual divorced from the actual technical workings of the society. Liberals and conservatives both speak of things in such a manner as if ideology is the prima facie cause of existence - but as Ellul shows in painstaking detail, this is wrong. What almost everyone fails to grasp is the pernicious effect of technique (and its offspring, technology) on modern man.

                Technique can loosely be defined as the entire mass of organization and technology that has maximum efficiency as its goal. Ellul shows that technique possesses an impetus all its own and exerts similar effects on human society no matter what the official ideology of the society in question is. Technique, with its never-ending quest for maximum efficiency, tends to slowly drown out human concerns as it progresses towards its ultimate goal. "...the further economic technique develops, the more it makes real the abstract concept of economic man." (p. 219) Technique does not confine itself merely to the realm of technical production, but infiltrates every aspect of human existence, and has no time for "inefficiencies" caused by loyalties to family, religion, race, or culture; a society of dumbed-down consumers is absolutely essential to the technological society, which must contain predictable "demographics" in order to ensure the necessary financial returns. "The only thing that matters technically is yield, production. This is the law of technique; this yield can only be obtained by the total mobilization of human beings, body and soul, and this implies the exploitation of all human psychic forces." (p. 324).

                Ellul thoroughly shows that much of the difference in ideology between libertarians and socialists becomes largely irrelevant in the technological society (this is not to say that ideology is unimportant, but rather that technique proceeds with the same goals and effects.) This will doubtlessly please no one; liberals want to believe that they can have privacy and freedom despite a high degree of central planning, and libertarians want to believe that a society free of most regulation and control is possible in an advanced technological society. Libertarian fantasies seem especially irrelevant given the exigencies of a technological society; as Ellul notes, as technique progresses it simply cannot function without a high degree of complexity and regulation. "The modern state could no more be a state without techniques than a businessman could be a businessman without the telephone or the automobile... not only does it need techniques, but techniques need it. It is not a matter of chance, nor a matter of conscious will; rather, it is an urgency..." (p. 253-254). Can anyone really doubt Ellul here, especially seeing as how twenty-plus years of conservative promises to downsize government still result in more regulation and bureaucracy with every passing year? Planning, socialism, regulation, and control are the natural consequences of technique; an increasingly incestuous relationship between industry and the State is inevitable. "The state and technique - increasingly interrelated - are becoming the most important forces in the modern world; they buttress and reinforce each other in their aim to produce an apparently indestructible, total civilization." (p. 318).

                This is not an optimistic book. Given that the nature of technique is one of a universal leveling of human cultures, needs, and desires (replacing real needs with false ones and the neighborhood restaurant with McDonalds), Ellul is certainly pessimistic. He does not propose any remedies for the Skinnerist nightmares of technique somehow leading to a Golden Age of humanity, where people will enjoy maximal freedom coupled with minimal want: "...we are struck by the incredible naivete of these scientists... they claim they will be in a position to develop certain collective desires, to constitute certain homogeneous social units out of aggregates of individuals, to forbid men to raise their children, and even to persuade them to renounce having any... at the same time, they speak of assuring the triumph of freedom and of the necessity of avoiding dictatorship... they seem incapable of grasping the contradiction involved, or of understanding that what they are proposing." (p. 434).
                The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                • #9
                  Re: Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods

                  Originally posted by reggie View Post
                  One of the primary issues, as I see it, is that these "paradoxes" can be algorthmically coded (via a form of Goedel numbering) into computer networks that provide increasingly more control over society by establishing rules that are eventually internalized by humans. This system of "paradoxes" is not discussed by the technological establishment, academcia or anyone else by that matter. Hence, the masses are sold technology as a democratic utopia with no presentation of its shortcomings and those shorcomings' impact on society and humanity. The conspiracy is a conspiracy of silence, especially amongst the vast army of technocracy workers who blindly push the techniques on their societal peers.
                  Jaron Lanier wrote a couple books that discuss some of these issues...You Are Not a Gadget & Who Control's the Future.
                  http://www.jaronlanier.com/

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                    Re: Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods


                    The sound of the
                    Gion Shōja bells echoes the impermanence of all things
                    the color of the
                    sāla flowers reveals the truth that the prosperous must decline
                    The proud do not endure, they are like a dream on a spring night
                    the mighty fall at last, they are as dust before the wind
                    -The Tale of the Heike --
                    Chapter 1.1, Helen Craig McCullough's translation
                    Last edited by radon; August 20, 2013, 08:01 AM. Reason: added attribution

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                    • #11
                      Re: Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods

                      Originally posted by seobook View Post
                      Jaron Lanier wrote a couple books that discuss some of these issues...You Are Not a Gadget & Who Control's the Future.
                      http://www.jaronlanier.com/
                      Here's an interesting snippet from a Q&A with Jaron Lanier...

                      Q. Who does own the future? What’s up for grabs that will affect our future livelihoods?
                      http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...0/simonsayscom

                      A. The answer is indeed up for grabs. If we keep on doing things as we are, the answer is clear: The future will be narrowly owned by the people who run the biggest, best connected computers, which will usually be found in giant, remote cloud computing farms.

                      The answer I am promoting instead is that the future should be owned broadly by everyone who contributes data to the cloud, as robots and other machines animated by cloud software start to drive our vehicles, care for us when we’re sick, mine our natural resources, create the physical objects we use, and so on, as the 21st century progresses.

                      Right now, most people are only gaining informal benefits from advances in technology, like free internet services, while those who own the biggest computers are concentrating formal benefits to an unsustainable degree.
                      I agree with the first part of his answer - "The future will be narrowly owned by the people who run the biggest, best connected computers". But the second part of his answer is BS - "The answer I am promoting instead is that the future should be owned broadly by everyone who contributes data to the cloud." In fact, his aim is impossible. Who builds and operates the algorthms controls the future, and the people utilizing the algorthmic based systems that are part of said future. I do have solice in the final part of his answer - "while those who own the biggest computers are concentrating formal benefits to an unsustainable degree". Let's just hope Jaron is right that it is unsustainable. Unfortunately, I think we're going to need a "Godly" event to break free.
                      The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                      • #12
                        Re: Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods

                        One of the big issue he tried to highlight in his second book about Who Owns the Future was about how our current set up isn't really aligned with a bell curve & middle class, but rather that it is set up as a winner take most system ... both at the infrastructural level of the tech nodes / siren serves & with talent / publishers that ride on the platform.

                        He had a number of examples and ideas for that sort of shared returns...things like micropayments based on flow of attention around shared content & leveraging source code, advertisers & ad networks that want to leverage user data for ad targeting being required to pay the user for the data (eg: if it is valuable enough to use, it is valuable enough to pay the user for).

                        So many new tech services use the label of "open" to get free work & marketing from 3rd party developers, and then quickly become closed platforms that gut the people who built them up. I think overall his concepts might be too aligned against the powers that be to really get a wide following & you are spot on with the need for a "Godly" event to break through.

                        Also funny timing on this news: "Facebook Inc. Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg said the company is teaming up with six others to help bring Internet access to more than four billion people who still do not have it. The group, called internet.org, will attempt to aid emerging economies by making Web access more affordable, use data more efficiently and help business drive access to more users. "

                        If people were trying to use data more efficiently, would the generally be using Facebook more or less?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Zerohedge - Technocratic Folly: Why Men Will Never Become Gods

                          Originally posted by seobook View Post
                          One of the big issue he tried to highlight in his second book about Who Owns the Future was about how our current set up isn't really aligned with a bell curve & middle class, but rather that it is set up as a winner take most system ... both at the infrastructural level of the tech nodes / siren serves & with talent / publishers that ride on the platform.
                          Yes, what he is referring to here are Heinz von Forrester's Power Laws, where a small portion of the overall sample size causes the vast majority of impact to the system (sometimes referred to as the 80-20 rule)
                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_law

                          power law distribution.png
                          The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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