Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

[anthonydr2]

http://www.infowars.com/obama-coveri...oston-bombing/

Are we not a sovereign nation with a robust legal system?

How could the public accept the lead suspect being quickly deported to Saudi Arabia vs a trial here?

Is this an example of one of the payments our government accepts as required to support the petrodollar?

The link above states the deportation is on national security grounds. What is more important to our national security than ensuring a clear and correct understanding of who and how many were involved in designing and executing this horrible bombing on US soil? Seriously, please offer your thoughts on what possibly could be more important on a national security basis than pursuing typical due process and maximizing our ability to understand the full extent of who (design/execute) and why they did so...

My thoughts and prayers are with the many victims of this horrible incident. I also very much hope for clarity for each of the victims, including their friends and family, in order to best draw closure even though there will be difficulty and pain as they progress from here.

[shiny!]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

How reliable is Infowars?

[GRG55]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

How reliable is Infowars?

Something like this happened right after 9/11 as well, and the Bush Administration came under a lot of criticism when that was revealed publicly.

However: "...As World Net Daily’s Joe Kovacs documents, “Saudi student Alharbi shares the same last name as a major Saudi clan that includes scores of al-Qaida operatives.”..."

So does bin Laden:

http://www.sbg.com.sa/

It doesn't mean the entire clan is automatically guilty...

[anthonydr2]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

I don't know much about info wars...however, with Reuters reporting unscheduled Saudi meeting with Obama and the pictures out there it seems the simplest and most likely scenario IMHO. I don't imagine Syria is actually a tip top priority, in the days following Boston. At least not one rating unscheduled presidential meetings with the Saudis (SA) on this timing. Maybe, if it were an unscheduled meeting with China on North Korea or Pakistan - that could make sense. However those don't seem likely topics to engage SA unscheduled.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/obama-meets...223009934.html

[don]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

here we go again - will there be a Boston Truth Committee . . .

There has been much discussion over the two individuals fitted with earpieces and military-esque gear spotted at the Boston Marathon, but as it turns out they may likely be employees of the Blackwater-style private military/security firm Craft International.

The two can be seen in the photo below with their hands up to their ears in what is later (second photo) confirmed to be a a wired communications device. Originally, it was thought that these men were likely some sort of military or special operations — specifically SEAL team members as indicated by an emblem on one of their black hats. After doing some digging, however, it becomes much more likely that these men are employees of Craft International — a private military/security firm similar in nature to Blackwater (Xe).

Here is the first image of the men cropped from the larger picture of the marathon:



From this, we first see the military-style men wearing what later is revealed to be standard issue Craft International clothing.

Related: Exclusive Interview With Boston Marathon Eyewitness Confirms Bomb Squad Drill

But next let’s examine another image that not only establishes the existence of an ear piece but also the skull logo on the one individual’s hat — which is actually the logo for Craft International, the private military firm started by famed sniper Chris Kyle. Here is the image below, which draws parallels between the SEAL aspect of the symbol (and Blackwater) but does not address Craft International:

Now it’s time to narrow it down. Are these men SEALS, Blackwater, or what? Well, by visiting the Craft International About Us page, we start to get answers. Not only is the favicon (little tab icon) of the site the exact same logo (which on the hat presumably reads ‘Craft’), but in image 3 (seen below) we see Chris Kyle with the exact same standard issue Craft International uniform we see these men wearing. From the boots, pants, and even baseball cap icon, it matches up. See for yourself below:

So are these individuals working for Craft International? It seems so, but why are private military soldiers present at the Boston Marathon? Perhaps it coincides with the perceived threat of a bombing that eyewitness Alastair Stevenson reports.

Read more: http://www.storyleak.com/craft-inter...#ixzz2Qq7DHQJ7

[anthonydr2]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

I appreciate the engagement, but want this thread to be more focused than other(s) on the general topic.

My interest is really in (1) was there a sudden, unscheduled meeting between Obama and Saudi officials post Boston Marathon; (2) has a plan emerged to deport a key suspect to Saudi Arabia; and (3) if so,why (ie., if national security - how can that possibly make sense unless it's to protect the petrodollar relationship vs gaining understanding, truth and closure for those affected and the broader public.

[anthonydr2]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

GRG55 - forgive me if I am wrong, but IMHO other than planes and Arabs the two cases have nothing in common.

I recall news coverage post 9/11. They flew out people of the bin laden broader family. They did not deport a key suspect. The rationale I believe was for their safety as none were viewed as potentially culpable for the tragedy and therefore they would not be tried in court - net, we could either protect them or let them fend for themselves. The chosen route was the cheapest way to protect them, simply move them outside the country.

Don - I can't imagine it's that difficult to obtain those backpacks or something that looks very similar. I am seeking a more directed set of information or even speculation on the above questions.

[wayiwalk]

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What strikes me as strange is how quickly people recognized that these symbols were from Craft International. Whereas I've heard of Blackwater, who ever would have thought/connected these guys?

The guy in the left of the "earpiece" photo above could easily be the founder Chris Kyle.

[astonas]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

I appreciate the engagement, but want this thread to be more focused than other(s) on the general topic.

My interest is really in (1) was there a sudden, unscheduled meeting between Obama and Saudi officials post Boston Marathon; (2) has a plan emerged to deport a key suspect to Saudi Arabia; and (3) if so,why (ie., if national security - how can that possibly make sense unless it's to protect the petrodollar relationship vs gaining understanding, truth and closure for those affected and the broader public.

My answers, for what it's worth.

(1) no clue, but even if there were, that fact wouldn't establish anything at all, no matter how much unsubstantiated speculation one can scare up.

(2) even if people are being deported to Saudi Arabia, establishing that they are "key suspects" worthy of detention and interrogation for the Boston bombing is the hard part. This is also the part, incidentally, that fringe conspiracy theory sites like to gloss over with faulty logic.

(3) perhaps certain Saudi individuals are concerned about the sort of rampant anti-arab sentiment that was commonly experienced after 9-11, and would simply rather not participate in the ugly side of American racism. Like the sort of ugly racism that fringe conspiracy theorists like to promulgate and capitalize on by casting suspicion in all sorts of places with no evidence whatsoever.

Bottom line, asking to limit discussion to a field narrow enough that there is no actual supporting evidence within it causes one to wonder why that limitation is either useful or desirable. As far as I can tell, the only ones who benefit from such a narrow scope of discussion are the lunatic fringe, who would be shown up as ridiculous in a broader discussion. I suspect that the appropriate focus of the conversation is on the reliability of the "infowars" site.

As far as I have been able to gather until now, it is almost entirely garbage.

[don]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

The guy in the left of the "earpiece" photo above could easily be the founder Chris Kyle.

Except that he's dead, killed by a guy on the rifle range about a month or so ago. What's really disconcerting is the proliferation of security organizations, both government and private, that seem to saturate our country. The Third Reich was run along those lines, with multiple ever-competing security organizations. As a state turns more authoritarian, is that a predictable path?

[anthonydr2]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

Thank you astonas - helpful perspective. Is there broad agreement that infowars is largely speculation and fringe?

I came across the article through a link on another site. Seemed convincing, but, I am wide open to discrediting the source of the initial article if that is the fair assessment.

[astonas]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

Except that he's dead, killed by a guy on the rifle range about a month or so ago. What's really disconcerting is the proliferation of security organizations, both government and private, that seem to saturate our country. The Third Reich was run along those lines, with multiple ever-competing security organizations. As a state turns more authoritarian, is that a predictable path?

The proliferation of private "security contractors" is indeed a grave concern for anyone worried about authoritarian control. The lack of formal accountability is a serious loss, particularly when compared to the civilian-led military that has historically served the purpose. Unfortunately, given the economics of the matter, I don't see it as a trend likely to reverse itself.

[jiimbergin]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

Thank you astonas - helpful perspective. Is there broad agreement that infowars is largely speculation and fringe?

I came across the article through a link on another site. Seemed convincing, but, I am wide open to discrediting the source of the initial article if that is the fair assessment.

Yes, the site loves conspiracy theories.

[BadJuju]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

It is a garbage site.

[metalman]

Re: Boston Marathon - why is Obama quickly deporting the Saudi suspect?

Thank you astonas - helpful perspective. Is there broad agreement that infowars is largely speculation and fringe?

I came across the article through a link on another site. Seemed convincing, but, I am wide open to discrediting the source of the initial article if that is the fair assessment.

infowars...