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    The US Navy SEAL who personally shot to death former al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden says he has been neglected by the US government. The poverty-stricken ex-commando is now struggling to feed his family and pay for healthcare.

    Despite killing America's most wanted man, the US Navy SEAL referred to only as “the Shooter” has transitioned back to a civilian life plagued by poverty. The Shooter, who remains anonymous, retired from the SEALs in September 2012, thirty-six months before the 20-year requirement for retirement benefits.

    And the government makes no exceptions when it comes to retirement benefits – not even for one of the Americans responsible for striking the most crushing blow against al-Qaeda.

    “What is [hard] to understand is that a man with hundreds of successful war missions, one of the most decorated combat veterans of our age, who capped his career by terminating bin Laden, has no landing pad in civilian life,”writes Phil Bronstein, Executive Chair of the Center for Investigative Reporting, for Esquire.

    Aside from remaining anonymous and therefore lacking recognition from the American public, the US government appears to have forgotten the Shooter’s significance in the raid that killed the most wanted terrorist. Without a pension, healthcare, or any sort of government protection, the Shooter has been left in the dark by the agency he dedicated his life to.

    Unsympathetically, he was told to look for a job driving a truck to make enough money to scrape by.
    “[SEAL command] told me they could get me a job driving a beer truck in Milwaukee,” the Shooter said. Such a job would be a substantial downgrade from both his status and estimated $54,000 salary as a Navy SEAL.

    Left without retirement benefits, the Shooter is now purchasing a private health insurance plan for $486 per month, which provides minimal coverage and fails to cover his chiropractic care.

    “My health care for me and my family stopped,” he said. “I asked if there was some transition from my Tricare to Blue Cross Blue Shield. They said no. You’re out of service, your coverage is over. Thanks for your sixteen years. Go f*ck yourself.”

    The US government provides 18- days of transitional healthcare benefits, but only those who agree to remain on active duty or become a “reservist”. And it will take at least eight months before he can make requests for disability payments. Although the US government put a $25 million bounty on bin Laden, no one has ever collected the money and the Shooter now lives in poverty.

    Finding another job is not so easy for the retired SEAL: due to his anonymity, he cannot disclose his work experience to other employers. Even though friends and family members put in recommendations for him with employers they know, they cannot tell anyone that the Shooter was part of SEAL Team 6.
    The SEALs struggles contradict the statement US President Barack Obama made on Veteran’s Day about those who serve the country.
    “No one who fights for this country overseas should ever have to fight for a job,” Obama said. “Or a roof over their head, or the care that they have earned when they come home.”

    But the Shooter is fighting – financially, physically and emotionally. With a body full of scars, arthritis, tendonitis, eye damage and blown disks, the SEAL is in desperate need of medical care.

    Is this how America treats its heroes?” Bronstein writes. “The ones President Obama called ‘the best of the best’? The ones Vice-President Biden called ‘the finest warriors in the history of the world?”

    And the Shooter is just one of about 1.3 million veterans – about one in 10 – and 0.9 million family members who are currently uninsured, despite their years of service.

    “[Bin Laden] crumpled onto the floor in front of his bed. He was dead. I watched him take his last breaths,” the Shooter recalls. “And I remember as I watched him breathe out the last part of air, I thought: Is this the best thing I’ve ever done, or the worst thing I’ve ever done?”
    The administration considers bin Laden’s death one of its greatest achievements. But for the Shooter, life has become a struggle.

    http://rt.com/usa/news/seal-bin-shooter-us-944/

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    Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

    serious story here, mr aaron - but am wondren just whos axe theys grinding on?

    Originally posted by rt.com
    The US Navy SEAL who personally shot to death former al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden says he has been neglected by the US government. The poverty-stricken ex-commando is now struggling to feed his family and pay for healthcare.


    (not to lessen/make light of his plight, but who isnt???)

    Is this how America treats its heroes?” Bronstein writes. “The ones President Obama called ‘the best of the best’? The ones Vice-President Biden called ‘the finest warriors in the history of the world?”

    And the Shooter is just one of about 1.3 million veterans – about one in 10 – and 0.9 million family members who are currently uninsured, despite their years of service.

    ....The administration considers bin Laden’s death one of its greatest achievements. But for the Shooter, life has become a struggle.

    http://rt.com/usa/news/seal-bin-shooter-us-944/
    whois rt.com:


    Registrant:
    ANO TV-Novosti
    4 Zubovsky Blvd.
    Moscow 119021
    RU Domain Name: RT.COM

    hmmmm....

    dont spose theres any propaganda value here, do ya?

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    • #3
      Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

      Why did he retire with only 3 years left to go? If a soldier has to retire early because of medical problems sustained in service to their country, don't they get medical and retirement benefits?

      Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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      • #4
        Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

        You will not read any semblance of truth except in foreign media. It is the same for other countries as well, I suspect.

        Regardless, it is ALL propaganda. However, I suspect this speaks much truth about veterans, if not necessarily this man.

        Perhaps he was ordered to not kill Bin Laden, yet did. That would be a good reason to get rid of him, without benefits. How heroic is it to kill an unarmed CIA agent hiding with his wives?

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          Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

          Originally posted by aaron View Post
          You will not read any semblance of truth except in foreign media. It is the same for other countries as well, I suspect.

          Regardless, it is ALL propaganda. However, I suspect this speaks much truth about veterans, if not necessarily this man.

          Perhaps he was ordered to not kill Bin Laden, yet did. That would be a good reason to get rid of him, without benefits. How heroic is it to kill an unarmed CIA agent hiding with his wives?
          I never bought the story that they killed Bin Laden anyway; I think he died of kidney disease years before.

          At a time when Obama desperately needed a distraction from his birth certificate controversy, they supposedly killed the most wanted man in the world but didn't even perform an autopsy or allow outside parties to verify it was him. They just threw the body into the ocean and told us to believe them. Why should we? Because the government would never lie to us?

          Yeah... right. The whole world should be saying: "Show us the body or it didn't happen."

          Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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          • #6
            Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

            Misleading Pension Conclusion - I've seen this story before. The way I've read it, he has been and still is in the service for 16 years and is contemplating leaving. If he leaves now, no pension. Same as everyone else. If he stays 4 more years, pension at 55 is the way it used to be. Same as everyone else. The 'No Pension' is BS.

            I am open to correction if things are different or I am misreading. I'm just tired of reading this headline on an article written by a war advocate. (not the poster here)
            Last edited by den111; February 15, 2013, 08:44 AM. Reason: Title

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            • #7
              Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

              Originally posted by den111 View Post
              Misleading Pension Conclusion - I've seen this story before. The way I've read it, he has been and still is in the service for 16 years and is contemplating leaving. If he leaves now, no pension. Same as everyone else. If he stays 4 more years, pension at 55 is the way it used to be. Same as everyone else. The 'No Pension' is BS.

              I am open to correction if things are different or I am misreading. I'm just tired of reading this headline on an article written by a war advocate. (not the poster here)
              What's the military policy on pensions for soldiers who have to resign before their 20 years is up because of injuries sustained in service?

              Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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              • #8
                Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

                More details about the story here. The comments after the article are particularly interesting.

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                • #9
                  Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

                  Originally posted by shiny! View Post
                  What's the military policy on pensions for soldiers who have to resign before their 20 years is up because of injuries sustained in service?
                  Service-related disabilities run the entire gamut from a monthly pension to stiff-armed for decades - see Agent Orange, etc. My uncle served in the 1st Marine Division from Guadacanal through to the end, seeing nothing but island fighting. He contracted malaria and got a $48 monthly pension. Over time it was repeatedly cutoff and re-instituted through his efforts, until he eventually gave up.
                  Veteran's Benefits - It's an Entitlement. . .

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                  • #10
                    Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

                    Great link. Thanks. I was in the Air Force. Everyone knows the pension rules. Plenty of discharge counseling. I'm sure the guy has reserve status and they should take him back for four more years. Disability is a major a#* f@#! and a shame for those that fought. Mostly well meaning patriotic suckers or economic draft fodder mislead from beginning to end.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

                      Originally posted by shiny! View Post
                      What's the military policy on pensions for soldiers who have to resign before their 20 years is up because of injuries sustained in service?
                      The guy is covered for service-related injuries for life through the VA, regardless of when he retires; what he doesn't have is health coverage for his dependents or future non-service-related injuries. Also, VA benefits do a better job covering physical wounds than psychological problems or treatment of chronic pain.

                      If you have to retire due to injuries sustained in service, you get awarded both medical benefits and a monetary pension regardless of how long you served. My father lost his legs below the knee and several fingers in North Korea back in 1950 after serving just a few years, and has been on 100% disability ever since. (Thankfully, he wasn't a laborer, so his injuries didn't prevent him from working as a college instructor after the war, but the standards for service disability pensions are framed in terms of the injuries sustained rather than the economic opportunities available to the injured service member.)

                      Had this former SEAL stayed in another 3 or 4 years, he would have been able to retire with medical benefits and half his base pay (which doesn't include rather substantial housing allowances). In general, service members who don't have legal or discipline problems who have been in as long as this guy was (16 or 17 years) don't have any trouble finding a way to put in their 20. As far as I know, once you get tired of shooting bad guys, you can generally request a different billet. One of my co-workers met a Delta Force guy who was serving out the last few years until retirement in a headquarters job "playing with toys" (i.e. reviewing experimental equipment). I would guess that this guy had a choice and made it.
                      Last edited by ASH; February 15, 2013, 02:30 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

                        Originally posted by den111 View Post
                        Misleading Pension Conclusion - I've seen this story before. The way I've read it, he has been and still is in the service for 16 years and is contemplating leaving. If he leaves now, no pension. Same as everyone else. If he stays 4 more years, pension at 55 is the way it used to be. Same as everyone else. The 'No Pension' is BS.

                        I am open to correction if things are different or I am misreading. I'm just tired of reading this headline on an article written by a war advocate. (not the poster here)
                        The article in Esquire was written over a long time span. The fellow was still in during the early part of the article but had separated by the end. He reportedly declined the opportunity to serve out his remaining time in the reserves. Heck -- he would have been able to start collecting his pension at like 38 (or whatever 20 years after enlisting happens to be)... no need to wait until 55 unless he joined up at age 35, which is unlikely.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

                          May as well post The original article from Esquire.

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                            Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

                            I got out of the military in 2002. That was near perfect timing in terms of companies putting on recruiting gatherings for ex-military people & then canceling them within the last week, after you had already bought the plane ticket

                            I was lucky enough to be on a submarine rather than in Iraq of Afghanistan. While staying to finish the 20 years can seem the obvious path to someone who already did 16 years or such, I bet seeing people die (or actually killing someone yourself) not only creates lifelong psychological damage for many people, but also makes them so loathe their jobs that they can't do that last term.

                            As Ash mentioned, psychological breakdowns are generally not handled well in the military. There were numerous cases on our submarine. In many cases the response to someone heading in that direction is being further pushed into breaking down as a punishment for a perceived wrong against the group. All roads lead to more pain...with the eventual goal of causing the person to crack & do something they can be punished for, such that they get a worse discharge type.

                            As far as I know, once you get tired of shooting bad guys, you can generally request a different billet.
                            I think you sometimes don't get the one you want though.

                            I know the reason I was sent to my boat (along with another kid graduating from the same class into the same division) it was because a guy who would arrive on the boat after us wanted the division over-stacked with new people so that it wouldn't get any more people & he would default to the division leader & be able to make rank.

                            The single best leader I personally knew in the military loved going out to sea (not claiming I did, but he absolutely loved it) & he was the sort of guy where if he caught you doing something dumb ... seeing him being disappointed would be far worse than getting yelled at by someone else. He would rarely yell, but when he was pissed it was always with merit. One time the submarine's engineer chewed me out for bothering him when he was eating to try to schedule qualification time & when this guy saw that, he made the engineer come apologize face to face in front of him. It is a rare leader who commands that much respect from people up and down the chain.

                            As much as he loved his job & being out at sea, his last tour was a gig where he basically was a liaison for new officers & spouses of young officers & he loathed feeling that his talents were wasted managing a bunch of spoiled brats. Most people prefer not to go out to sea & he absolutely prefered to go out to sea. That he could have loved his job & being out to sea that much & still wound up doing something he didn't like made me better appreciate the absurdity of some aspects of the structure of the military.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Navy SEAL who killed bin Laden left in poverty with no pension, healthcare or protection

                              Thanks for explaining how the pensions and benefits work, ASH. And God bless your father for his service.

                              Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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