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  • Class Warfare From Above: the Great Transfer of Wealth Continues

    FIRE can only transfer wealth, it creates nothing . . .


    The relentless punishment of the American saver. Fed policy has encouraged spendthrift attitude and yield seeking behavior from Americans.

    The Federal Reserve has actively pursued a policy that punishes American savers. The drive to push interest rates lower has inflated both the stock market and housing market once again. Yet little of this gain has trickled down into household income for Americans. The primary reason for this is that most Americans do not derive a significant portion of their wealth from stocks. In fact, a large portion of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck so if the Fed was really interested in boosting wages, they would have looked at income first instead of making it easier for banks to borrow money. Since 2008 savings rates at banks have been below one percent. In many banks, they have hovered slightly above 0 percent. Unfortunately the slow eroding power of inflation has eaten away at the purchasing power of Americans. For many, the choice has been to simply spend income as it comes in or try to chase yields in other markets. Ultimately the prudent saver has been punished.

    The punishing rate of being a saver

    There was a time when a more conservative saver would put money into CDs or money market accounts and yield a moderate rate. Some will argue that this drop in yield is a reflection of added risk but this is false. The Fed has essentially stepped in and soaked up all risk when it comes to yield. When the Fed states that they will buy whatever mortgage backed securities necessary to keep rates low via Quantitative Easing they are essentially picking winners and losers. It is clear who has lost:



    These rates do not come close to keeping up with headline inflation. Stick your money in a bank account and you are guaranteed to lose money over time. While the inflation rate did dip during the recession it is now picking up steam:



    Even a moderate amount of inflation when wages are stagnant is debilitating. Purchasing power is paramount in an economy. What is currently unfolding is a financial system that is trying to force spending by Americans that actually have the means to do so. 47.5 million Americans are on food stamps so they are rather limited. The median household income of $50,000 only has so much disposable income after needed expenses. So many households that do want to save are limited by their investing options.

    Even the rates on “high yield” bonds, otherwise known as junk bonds, are reflecting a market that is chasing yield in high risk places:



    Nothing has fundamentally changed in the years since the recession hit to warrant this rate on high yield bonds. These are incredibly risky bets for what would amount to be a five percent return. A five percent return is what a safe CD would have given you in the early 2000s.

    But why punish savers outright? The US is a consumption based economy. Given the massive contraction, purchasing power has fallen for most families. A high rate will encourage people to save and monetary policy is about lowering rates. Well the Fed did this starting in the early 2000s pushing interest rates low and causing the housing bubble. When the bubble burst, the Fed went to this policy again but ended up lowering rates to zero. The Fed since that point has effectively monetized debt and has digitally printed money for years:



    The Fed ran out of ideas in 2008 at least on the monetary front. It was time to monetize. Keep in mind where we are. The market is acting as if the Fed is allowing rates to go back to normal. To the contrary, the market is still in fighting mode. The exuberance that is now occurring is reminiscent to what happened after Greenspan injected massive amounts of money into the economy after the tech bust. Isn’t it ironic that the Fed that openly states they are for open markets and stable systems is the one that engineers the biggest booms and busts? Savers continue to be punished and this is likely to continue.

    http://www.mybudget360.com/relentles...tes-americans/

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    Re: Class Warfare From Above: the Great Transfer of Wealth Continues

    Originally posted by don View Post
    FIRE can only transfer wealth, it creates nothing . . .
    Some folks have been saying this about the entire American economy...ever since all the manufacturing jobs got shipped over to China :-)


    Originally posted by don View Post
    The relentless punishment of the American saver. Fed policy has encouraged spendthrift attitude and yield seeking behavior from Americans.

    The Federal Reserve has actively pursued a policy that punishes American savers...

    This is the intended consequence of any and every reflationary policy by governments and Central Banks throughout history. In the 1970s, before the FIRE era started, inflation hammered savers, especially those retired on fixed incomes from their meager lifetime-of-work savings.

    What FIRE has done is give us the most spectacular version of this in living memory. We can only hope that Edna in Iowa has taken Bernanke's policies to heart and recently invested some of her cookie jar money in the SoCal property flipping market...otherwise she is screwed...

    The FIRE bankers love it: The land of the fee and the home of the (debt) slave...
    Last edited by GRG55; February 08, 2013, 10:39 AM.

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      Re: Class Warfare From Above: the Great Transfer of Wealth Continues

      I'd point out that using the term 'saver' to apply to the FIRE oppressed masses is a complete misnomer.

      The vast majority of 'savings' is held by the rich - both cash/liquid and otherwise, and both bankster and otherwise.

      Even within the FIRE oppressed masses, the majority of the cash/liquid and other types of savings are held by the 50+ and 65+ cohorts. ZIRP doesn't really affect the interest earnings of any of the others to a significant degree.

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        Re: Class Warfare From Above: the Great Transfer of Wealth Continues

        Originally posted by c1ue View Post
        I'd point out that using the term 'saver' to apply to the FIRE oppressed masses is a complete misnomer.

        The vast majority of 'savings' is held by the rich - both cash/liquid and otherwise, and both bankster and otherwise.

        Even within the FIRE oppressed masses, the majority of the cash/liquid and other types of savings are held by the 50+ and 65+ cohorts. ZIRP doesn't really affect the interest earnings of any of the others to a significant degree.
        I have to disagree somewhat. Yes, the term saver as is the term savings has lost its traditional meaning - not spending all ones earnings/income by foregoing consumption in order to invest/save for anticipated future consumption. It now seems to be somewhat of an anathema to the central planners in our consumption based economy. "Oh dear we have an output gap and folks aren't consuming all that can be produced ... OMG end of world .... stimulate consumption and all we'll be fine ... sorry, but this is one-dimensional thinking by the central planners. Somewhat like the term "capital", which used to mean savings, and now is used to mean money/liquidity whether saved or created ex nihilo (printed).

        The ZIRP policy has at least a 2-prong effect - prodding anyone with "savings" to speculate and thereby put there savings at risk and inflation which devalues their savings and causes them to have to speculate. It is what it is, but I think an economic system which coerces you to receive money that is guaranteed to steadilly and perhaps rapidly decline in value is tyranny. If the gov wants to coin the moeny and set its value according to the constitution them let them do it directly, and not surreptiously steal the people's wealth via debasement - debasement I might add that is a direct result of the gov printing its own money and using it to acquire more assets, fund more departments and generally acquire more power. Tyranny indeed.

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          Re: Class Warfare From Above: the Great Transfer of Wealth Continues

          Originally posted by vinoveri
          The ZIRP policy has at least a 2-prong effect - prodding anyone with "savings" to speculate and thereby put there savings at risk and inflation which devalues their savings and causes them to have to speculate.
          I'd note that the behaviors you ascribe to above - if not in scale - were certainly well in progress long before ZIRP. The US savings rate - under any measurement system you care to name - has been going down for decades.

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