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  • #61
    Re: Gas Prices Rising

    Originally posted by don View Post
    In related news I need to shop around for a commute car for the Big Boss. Any suggestions?
    Commute car? Commute motorcycle!

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    • #62
      Re: Gas Prices Rising

      Originally posted by BadJuju View Post
      Commute car? Commute motorcycle!
      uhhh... mr juju - Fla = a BIG state and swelteringly hot about 9 mos/year
      only the younger set 'enjoys' being out in the elements, with a wind swept hairdo

      and gas here on maui this weekend is at 437, with only minor differences up in the big city, seat of power in the state most like CA... (as joe mentions), since they seem to want to re-create out here most of whats _wrong_ with the 'golden' state (such as the gold plated bene pkgs of the .gov 'workforce' - along with nearly the same level, per capita, of unfunded liabilities, and with our very own vers of guv moonbeam ;)

      but eye see its 315 or so in SLC, over there in utaaaaaah.

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      • #63
        Re: Gas Prices Rising

        Originally posted by jpetr48 View Post
        got you beat Don- we are at over $5 in LA. Where i live in OC it is $4.30. last week i was in Golden Co and it was $3.35.
        In the big picture FL is winning with no state income tax- CA will soon become the France of the US.

        http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/...-to-southland/
        I'd say California is close to becoming the Greece of the US. But with a lot less excuse for it.
        An ex OMB guy thinks CA bankruptcy could trigger a run on the US dollar. It will just show every one how bankrupt our system is.

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        • #64
          Re: Gas Prices Rising

          Originally posted by BadJuju View Post
          Commute car? Commute motorcycle!
          I do see a fair amount of underpowered mopeds around here. Florida might lead the nation in biker/pedestrian deaths. A regular occurrence. Excellent mileage, however . . . .

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          • #65
            Re: Gas Prices Rising

            Originally posted by Polish_Silver View Post
            I'd say California is close to becoming the Greece of the US. But with a lot less excuse for it.
            An ex OMB guy thinks CA bankruptcy could trigger a run on the US dollar. It will just show every one how bankrupt our system is.
            And thus, will not be allowed to happen. If you know this to be true, why not borrow as much as you can?

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            • #66
              Re: Gas Prices Rising

              Originally posted by don View Post
              In related news I need to shop around for a commute car for the Big Boss. Any suggestions?
              It would help to know his likes and needs. What's his budget? How long is his commute? How does he rank comfort, value for the money, social impression, fuel economy, safety, warranty, etc?

              Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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              • #67
                Re: Gas Prices Rising

                Originally posted by don View Post
                In related news I need to shop around for a commute car for the Big Boss. Any suggestions?
                i am more your functional consumer so excuse the boring selection options.

                Have had my Honda Accord since 2004 with 88k miles about 30 mpg and no mechanical issues. My OC neighbors could not figure out why i got accord when mercedes benz is the status symbol. Cost of ownership is excellent!

                Though I have been driving rental cars and like the Chevrolet products like impala and cruse and am impressed with the handling and comfort too

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                • #68
                  Re: Gas Prices Rising

                  Originally posted by don View Post
                  In related news I need to shop around for a commute car for the Big Boss. Any suggestions?
                  Toyotas are excellent mechanically, it seems virtually every model. Some of the Hondas, like civic and accord are also at this standard.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Gas Prices Rising

                    Originally posted by Polish_Silver View Post
                    Toyotas are excellent mechanically, it seems virtually every model. Some of the Hondas, like civic and accord are also at this standard.
                    +1 wife has a toyota only low mileage still no mechanical issues

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                    • #70
                      Re: Gas Prices Rising

                      Still on a roll :-) Product demand up, product inventories declining, crude oil input inventories rising, refinery utilization down. No relief in sight...

                      US cracks continue to post new 5-year highs:
                      • Average US gasoline cracks rose +17% and average US diesel cracks rose +6% last week as the Gulf Coast and Mid-Con posted strong gains. In total, average US product cracks rose +12% to US$19.86/bbl last week.
                      • The WTI-Brent spread averaged -US$22.01/bbl last week, much wider than the previous week’s average of -US$20.57/bbl.

                      DOE inventory report
                      • The DOE inventory report was bullish for refiners, with larger than expected draws in gasoline and distillate inventories.
                      • US gasoline demand registered 8.40mb/d last week, raising the 4-week moving average to 8.44mb/d. The 4-week average is +4.4% compared to 2012 and -2.2% below the 5-year average.
                      • Total US crude oil inventories rose +0.6mbbls (vs. +2.2 consensus) to 372.2mbbls. Crude stocks are +9.8% compared to last year’s level and +11.6% vs the 5-year average.
                      • Gasoline inventories fell -0.8mbbls (vs. +0.5 consensus) to 234.0mbbls and are +0.5% vs 2012 levels and +1.4% vs the 5-year average.
                      • Distillate inventories fell -3.7mbbls (vs. -1.8 consensus) to 125.9mbbls and are -12.4% vs 2012 levels and -13.7% vs the 5-year average.
                      • Refinery utilization fell to 83.8% (vs. 84.2% consensus) from 84.2% the previous week.

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                      • #71
                        Re: Gas Prices Rising

                        Originally posted by jpetr48 View Post
                        +1 wife has a toyota only low mileage still no mechanical issues
                        Any model preference among Toyota & Honda?

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                        • #72
                          Re: Gas Prices Rising

                          For a practical, low cost of ownership car, it is hard to beat a Toyota corolla or a honda civic.

                          For toyotas, the parts are fairly expensive. But you hardly ever need to buy them.

                          People used to think the civics were a bit more peppy in their handling.

                          During 2003-2007, we had a used Ford Focus. It worked out well. It had only minor mechanical issues, which cost a pittance to fix.

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                          • #73
                            definition of "crack"

                            The meaning of "crack" might be obvious to some, but to me it was some kind of cocaine.

                            Supposedly the "crack" is the difference in price between the crude oil and the gasoline or diesel that you could make from it.
                            I don't know how the refinery costs get figured into that.

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                            • #74
                              Re: definition of "crack"

                              Originally posted by Polish_Silver View Post
                              The meaning of "crack" might be obvious to some, but to me it was some kind of cocaine.

                              Supposedly the "crack" is the difference in price between the crude oil and the gasoline or diesel that you could make from it.
                              I don't know how the refinery costs get figured into that.
                              Ask and ye shall get the answer thy seeks...

                              This thread below contains a prior discussion on the same topic

                              http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...611#post245611

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                              • #75
                                Re: Gas Prices Rising

                                Consumer Reports rated the Prius as the the car with the lowest cost of ownership: Cheaper insurance, gas, and maintenance costs.

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