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  • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

    Originally posted by jk View Post
    as intriguing as that chart is, i think it's not correct. i would imagine [correct me if i'm wrong] that the methodology was to subtract out rises in employment in alberta, or in the energy business, leading to the other graph. HOWEVER, the conditions that led to the alberta boom were high oil and petrol prices. if we assume that oil and petrol prices were significantly lower, the other parts of the economy wouldn't have been subject to the drag of those high prices. i.e. the rest of the economy would have done better. so i don't think it's so simple.
    I don't think it is possible to achieve a perfectly correct result when one is making assumptions about economic history. There are far too many variables. In addition to the points you make there is the assumption that fiscal and monetary policies would have been the same in the two scenarios, and that the national labour force size was unaffected by Alberta's outperformance (unlikely).

    The methodology employed looked at the average annual growth rate in employment in each of the ten Canadian Provinces over the two decade period from 1995 to 2014. During the first seven years of that period oil prices were generally falling or flat. Nevertheless, Alberta's average employment growth rate was the highest in the country at 2.5% per annum, well ahead of second place Ontario (1.44%) and double that of my home Province of British Columbia (1.23%). Five Provinces had employment growth rates of less than 1% per annum during that period. High petroleum prices alone simply cannot account for that difference.

    The methodology was quite simple; the author made the assumption that Alberta's employment growth rate from 1995 was reduced to be equal to the actual Ontario experience, and used that to estimate the difference in outcome. The author is clear about the limitations of the methodology and that there are no multi-variable econometric models being used in the analysis. His point is merely that current Canadian employment statistics (and current economic policy circumstances) are likely to have been considerably poorer in the absence of Alberta's long period of outperformance.

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    • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

      http://www.wsj.com/articles/as-oil-s...aul-1421114641

      As Oil Slips Below $50, Canada Digs In for Long Haul

      Oil-Sands Operators, Seeing Long-Term Value, Aren’t Likely to Shut Off the Tap Any Time Soon

      CALGARY—In the escalating war of attrition among top oil-producing nations, Canada’s biggest oil-sands mines have a message for the market: Don’t look to us to cut production.

      Long the unloved stepchild of so-called unconventional crude production, the oil sands have lured some of the world’s top energy producers to a remote corner of Northern Alberta where the heavy oil deposits are richest. There, they have plowed billions of dollars into building up a sprawling industrial complex amid the surrounding forests.

      And even as oil prices settled below $50 a barrel Monday for the first time in nearly six years, those companies are unlikely to shut off the tap anytime soon thanks to those huge upfront costs, combined with long-term break-even points and lengthy production lives. Unlike shale oil, which requires constant drilling of new wells to maintain output levels, once an oil-sands site is developed it will produce tens or hundreds of thousands of barrels a day, steadily, for up to three decades.

      On Monday, major producer Canadian Natural Resources Ltd. became the latest to underscore the resilience of oil-sands growth. The company said lower oil prices will force it to trim investment on new projects and curtail its growth forecast—but it still expects overall output to grow about 7% over 2014 levels, and it vowed to keep spending on expanding output at its biggest oil-sands mine over the next two years.

      Oil prices tumbled to fresh lows Monday as two major banks slashed their price forecasts for crude amid a global supply glut. U.S. oil for February delivery fell 4.7% to $46.07 a barrel. Brent, the global benchmark, dropped 5.3% to $47.43 a barrel on ICE Futures Europe. Both are at their lowest point in almost six years.

      Canadian Natural will continue expanding production because it expects higher volume will cut operating expenses at its mainstay Horizon mine, currently at 37.13 Canadian dollars a barrel, by at least another 10 Canadian dollars a barrel.




      “A lot of the costs are fixed in nature,” Chief Financial Officer Corey Bieber said in an interview Monday. “You don’t necessarily increase your workforce in a corresponding ratio [with production]. If you can increase your denominator and manage your numerator effectively, you wind up with a lower cost per barrel.”

      Canadian crude exports to the U.S. exceeded 3 million barrels a day in 2014, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, a record volume that helped displace other imports, and producers here are looking to tap European and Asian markets. Moves such as those by Canadian Natural ensure the oil sands will continue adding to the global oil glut for a long time to come, regardless of the price of crude. That has implications for spot prices, other major oil producers around the world and the future of key infrastructure plays like the Keystone XL pipeline.

      Existing oil sands surface mines can make money at about $30 a barrel, and the most efficient underground oil sands projects run byCenovus Energy Inc. , a big Canadian operator, can stay in the black at $35 a barrel. That is still above the break-even levels of many traditional oil wells, but below those of other unconventional sources of crude, including most production from the Bakken Shale formation in North Dakota.

      “It’s not well understood just how robust the oil sands are. If you stopped expansion of the oil sands tomorrow, you would have no decline in the production base for decades,” Cenovus Chief Executive Brian Ferguson said. “What we do is design for 30-year flat production lives” at oil-sands fields, he said.

      The long-term nature of the oil sands doesn’t come without risk. A prolonged price slump could erode cash flow and crimp companies’ ability to service debt.

      Lower crude prices will tighten profit margins and push producers to defer investment on new projects, which are among the costliest to develop in the industry alongside drilling for oil at deep-water offshore sites and in the Arctic. In northern Alberta, hockey-puck-hard oil embedded in subterranean sand deposits is mined or extracted from wells and rendered into a liquid form for transport to refineries.

      Royal Dutch Shell PLC’s Canadian unit said Friday that it would cut up to 10% of its oil sands mine workforce to offset the drop in crude oil prices. Some smaller Calgary-based oil-sands producers have slashed budgets and production forecasts. And even before the recent price plunge, Statoil ASA of Norway in September and France’s Total SA in May announced plans to postpone development of new oil-sands projects, citing cost issues.

      But few of the largest producers in Canada envision scaling back production at their oil-sands operations. That strategy puts Canada on a collision course with Saudi Arabia and other low-cost producers seeking to shore up market share and force marginal producers to the sidelines.

      On the day in late November that OPEC failed to reach a consensus on production cuts, setting off a plunge in crude prices and sending shockwaves through the global energy industry, the chief executive of the largest oil-sands producer made an unusual move: He doubled down on his plans to boost production in northern Alberta by tens of thousands of barrels and to spend billions of dollars on expansion in the year ahead.

      Steve Williams, CEO of Canadian oil-sands giant Suncor Energy Inc., said on Nov. 27 that his company’s strong balance sheet would allow it to ride out the turbulence and stick with a bullish growth strategy. “Price volatility is a fact of life in our industry,” Mr. Williams said. “In evaluating any investment, Suncor takes a much longer-term view than days or months. We are able to take the perspective of pricing in decades.”

      Suncor, the single largest oil-sands producer, is boosting capital spending next year to at least C$7.2 billion and lift will output by as much as 11%. Canadian Natural plans to increase production of oil and natural-gas liquids 7% in 2015 and spend $C6.2 billion. Syncrude Canada Ltd., a consortium whose oil sands strip mines are operated by Exxon Mobil Corp. , projects a 6% gain in production next year to 103 million barrels of oil, or about 275,000 barrels a day.

      The price of entry to this elite club is steep—tens of billions of dollars—so the number of players is limited to the biggest multinationals such as Exxon Mobil Corp. and Shell, state-owned enterprises such as China National Offshore Oil Corp. and a handful of Calgary-based independents. Debt-serving obligations already have dinged Canadian Oil Sands Ltd. , the largest owner of the Syncrude consortium, which cut its dividend 43% in December to stay below a $2 billion self-imposed net-debt cap.

      But once the vertigo-inducing upfront investments are made, oil sands sites produce for decades and volumes rarely dip, even if profit margins are negligible, as companies await the next cyclical turn in prices. Even with crude prices down by half since July, Cnooc’s Canadian subsidiary started up production in early December of a new 20,000-barrel-a-day oil-sands field known as Kinosis.

      Oil-sands operators in Canada say they are confident demand for heavy oil-sands crude will continue to rise, especially from their best customer—the U.S., which is still the world’s largest consumer of oil. North America is awash in light crude oil fracked from shale formations, but U.S. refineries still need heavy crude.

      Much of that now comes from Canada’s oil sands, which increasingly are displacing shipments of heavy oil from Mexico and Venezuela. That is why the industry wants the Keystone XL pipeline to ship crude from the oil sands of northern Alberta directly to refineries on the U.S. Gulf Coast.

      With or without Keystone XL, if production continues to grow, Canada’s oil-sands producers will likely face capacity constraints on existing pipelines and high costs for shipping their crude by rail.


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      • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

        http://business.financialpost.com/20..._lsa=75fc-d287

        Suncor Energy Inc cuts 1,000 jobs, reduces capital spending by $1 billion amid oil price rout


        THE CANADIAN PRESS/Jason FransonThe Suncor refinery in Edmonton.


        CALGARY – Canadian oil sands giant Suncor Energy Inc. said Tuesday it’s axing 1,000 jobs and $1-billion in capital spending in response to crashing oil prices.

        The layoffs are the largest yet announced in Canada’s oil patch as oil prices continue their downward spiral, the result of a war for market share instigated by Saudi Arabia.

        U.S. crude closed down US18¢ at US$45.89, after touching an April 2009 low of US$44.20, when the Alberta-based sector last struggled with major adversity as a result of the global financial crisis. That downturn pushed Suncor to merge with PetroCanada.

        In a late afternoon statement, Suncor said the cuts include a $1-billion decrease in its capital spending program, as well as operating expense reductions of $600 million to $800 million to be phased in over two years.

        Calgary-based Suncor said Nov. 18 it was planning to invest $7.2-billion to $7.8 billion in 2015.
        “Cost management has been an ongoing focus, with successful efforts to reduce both capital and operating costs well underway before the decline in oil prices,” Steve Williams, president and chief executive officer of Suncor, said in the statement.

        “However, in today’s low crude price environment, it’s essential we accelerate this work. Today’s spending reductions are consistent with our commitment to spend within our means and maintain a strong balance sheet. We will monitor the pricing environment and take further action as required.”

        The company said it’s deferring capital projects that have not yet been sanctioned, such as MacKay River 2 in Alberta and the White Rose Extension in Newfoundland’s offshore, as well reducing discretionary spending.

        Major projects already in construction, such as the Fort Hills oil sands project in Alberta, and Hebron in Newfoundland, will move forward as planned. The projects are expected to come online in late 2017.

        The layoffs will affect both contract and full time staff. The company employs nearly 14,000 people. Hiring has been frozen in all areas that are not critical to operations and safety.

        Among other recent layoffs, oil sands competitor Royal Dutch Shell PLC said it would cut between 5% and 10% of the just over 3,000 jobs at its Albian Sands mining project in northern Alberta, and Houston-based Civeo Corp. announced said it had closed two of its 11 camps in northern Alberta and laid off 30% of its staff in anticipation of an expected slowdown in oilsands activity.

        “It is going to get worse,” said Dana Benner, managing director, head of research, oilfield services, at AltaCorp. Capital Inc.

        “It is driven by a number of factors, which are not only economic but probably political as well — economic in the sense of momentary supply-demand balance of oil. There is also a political aspect to it, with the Saudis wanting to send a very strong message to the North American shale business that moves to [grab] market share are not going to be tolerated, and that may take a while to prove that point.

        “It is not inconceivable to see prices move in their $30s before this is done, in which case, we are not even close to feeling all the pain.”

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        • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

          Apparently selling ice to Eskimos is easier than selling Chinese-made plastic ware to metrosexuals in TO?
          Updated: January 15, 2015 1:18 pm
          A lacklustre holiday shopping season put the final nail in Target Canada’s coffin.
          The U.S. department store giant said Thursday it plans to discontinue operations in Canada, a move that will see 133 stores liquidated and affect more than 17,500 employees...

          ...The retailer launched in Canada in March 2013, rolling out 133 stores across the country. Poor sales plagued Target Canada though, as it struggled with merchandise stocking issues and perceptions about its prices being higher than what Target charged in the United States...

          ...“We were unable to find a realistic scenario that would get Target Canada to profitability until at least 2021,” Cornell said...

          AND...
          Sony to close its stores across Canada

          Updated: January 15, 2015 1:45 pm

          Sony made the announcement Thursday, the same day U.S. retail giant Target announced it is pulling out of Canada...

          ...“Sony is getting out of retail,” he said. “We’re shocked but it’s all for progression.”

          Sony is expecting to post a nearly $2 billion lost this fiscal year.

          About 90 employees will be affected by the closures.

          In a statement to the Ottawa Citizen, Sony said it would close its 14 Canadian stores over the next six to eight weeks.

          Sony has locations in Toronto, Ottawa, Vancouver, two in Quebec and three in Alberta.
          Last edited by GRG55; January 15, 2015, 03:32 PM.

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          • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

            Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
            Apparently selling ice to Eskimos is easier than selling Chinese-made plastic ware to metrosexuals in TO?
            Updated: January 15, 2015 1:18 pm
            A lacklustre holiday shopping season put the final nail in Target Canada’s coffin.
            The U.S. department store giant said Thursday it plans to discontinue operations in Canada, a move that will see 133 stores liquidated and affect more than 17,500 employees...

            ...The retailer launched in Canada in March 2013, rolling out 133 stores across the country. Poor sales plagued Target Canada though, as it struggled with merchandise stocking issues and perceptions about its prices being higher than what Target charged in the United States...

            ...“We were unable to find a realistic scenario that would get Target Canada to profitability until at least 2021,” Cornell said...

            AND...
            Sony to close its stores across Canada

            Updated: January 15, 2015 1:45 pm

            Sony made the announcement Thursday, the same day U.S. retail giant Target announced it is pulling out of Canada...

            ...“Sony is getting out of retail,” he said. “We’re shocked but it’s all for progression.”

            Sony is expecting to post a nearly $2 billion lost this fiscal year.

            About 90 employees will be affected by the closures.

            In a statement to the Ottawa Citizen, Sony said it would close its 14 Canadian stores over the next six to eight weeks.

            Sony has locations in Toronto, Ottawa, Vancouver, two in Quebec and three in Alberta.

            Sony getting out of direct retail isn't a big surprise. Whenever I've seen those stores they have always felt way out of step as far as the Apple Brand Embassy thing goes.

            Target closing is a bit of a shocker.

            Canada is about as close to Target's US business model(physically/culturally) as it could get.

            It's not exactly the same expectation one might have of say Walmart's woes in the developing world.

            McDonalds is having a bad run on comparable sales in the last year or so.

            Indicators of a long/slow tectonic shift in consumer behaviour?

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            • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

              Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
              Apparently selling ice to Eskimos is easier than selling Chinese-made plastic ware to metrosexuals in TO?
              Cheap plastic and tupperware stuff usually benefit in the downturn. I just bought a HDPE plastic bedside table for $30 at a factory outlet. It is termite proof and very portable. How much will a real bedside table cost me?

              On the other hand, people will surely cut back on restaurant meals, cars, branded fashion, expensive phones (e.g. iPhones) and cosmetics.

              So far, we've been talking about businesses that will be impacted by the oil crash. How about businesses that sell overseas, such as Blackberry?

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              • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

                Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                Apparently selling ice to Eskimos is easier than selling Chinese-made plastic ware to metrosexuals in TO?
                Updated: January 15, 2015 1:18 pm
                A lacklustre holiday shopping season put the final nail in Target Canada’s coffin.
                The U.S. department store giant said Thursday it plans to discontinue operations in Canada, a move that will see 133 stores liquidated and affect more than 17,500 employees...

                ...The retailer launched in Canada in March 2013, rolling out 133 stores across the country. Poor sales plagued Target Canada though, as it struggled with merchandise stocking issues and perceptions about its prices being higher than what Target charged in the United States...

                ...“We were unable to find a realistic scenario that would get Target Canada to profitability until at least 2021,” Cornell said...

                AND...
                Sony to close its stores across Canada

                Updated: January 15, 2015 1:45 pm

                Sony made the announcement Thursday, the same day U.S. retail giant Target announced it is pulling out of Canada...

                ...“Sony is getting out of retail,” he said. “We’re shocked but it’s all for progression.”

                Sony is expecting to post a nearly $2 billion lost this fiscal year.

                About 90 employees will be affected by the closures.

                In a statement to the Ottawa Citizen, Sony said it would close its 14 Canadian stores over the next six to eight weeks.

                Sony has locations in Toronto, Ottawa, Vancouver, two in Quebec and three in Alberta.
                RioCan hit by high rate of retail closures in struggling fashion space

                Alexandra Posadzki, The Canadian Press

                TORONTO – An unusually high number of store closures, particularly in Canada’s struggling fashion sector, has left RioCan Real Estate Investment Trust scrambling to find new tenants to fill vacant locations.
                “The current retail environment is challenging in some sectors,” president and chief operating officer Raghunath Davloor said during a conference call after the company reported its earnings Friday.
                “At the end of December we started to see … an increased level of activity in abandonments and bankruptcies, which has continued into the first quarter of 2015. The mid-level fashion sector has produced the most turnover.”
                RioCan (TSX:REI.UN), one of Canada’s largest landlords, has been impacted by a number of recent closures, including the recent announcement by U.S.-based discount retailer Target that it will be shuttering all 133 of its Canadian stores...

                ...In total, the real estate investment trust more than 200,000 square feet of space in its portfolio become vacant during the three months that ended on Dec. 31, 2014. That figure doesn’t include closures announced in the first quarter of this year, such as 13 locations of the Cash Store that are in RioCan’s portfolio. Sony and Jones New York have each left RioCan with two stores to fill, while RadioShack is closing seven locations in RioCan’s U.S. portfolio...


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                • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

                  Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                  Another entry from the "Owe Canada" file.

                  Debt deleveraging? What debt deleveraging???

                  Canadian consumer debt hits new high


                  Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:02 AM EST | Updated: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:11 AM EST

                  Consumer debt in Canada has hit an all-time high, according to a new report from credit-monitoring firm TransUnion.

                  The average debt hit $27,485 at the end of 2012, a 6% increase from 2011. Debt rose at its fastest pace since 2009, TransUnion said...

                  ...Every province saw its average consumer debt rise, except for British Columbia, where it went down 0.09%. Debt shot up by 11.20% in Alberta, 9.39% in Quebec and 9.04% in P.E.I.

                  Credit card debt in Canada rose 0.12% from last year, lines of credit rose 2.64%, instalment loan debt increased 6.71% and automobile debt rose 8.93%...

                  From the "Is it Really Over Martha?" file:

                  Editor’s Note:
                  When we think of economic crisis, we think Greece. And maybe, closer to home, the collapse of Lehman Brothers or Florida’s overleveraged housing market. But rarely do our neighbors to the north come immediately to mind.
                  Just back from Canada, Vikram Mansharamani argues that they should. Mansharamani, a lecturer in the Program on Ethics, Politics & Economics at Yale University and a senior fellow at the Mossavar-Rahmani Center for Business and Government at the Harvard Kennedy School, is concerned about rising home prices and falling oil prices. The author of “Boombustology: Spotting Financial Bubbles Before They Burst,” he’s also written for Making Sen$e about random class admissions at Yale.

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                    OECD marks slowdown in Canada, even as other economies recover


                    Canada among laggards as economies in U.S., U.K., EU and Japan pick up

                    CBC News Posted: Apr 09, 2015 12:56 PM ET Last Updated: Apr 09, 2015 8:30 PM ET


                    The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development sees signs the Canadian economy is slowing in 2015, despite momentum picking up in the EU, the U.S. and Japan.

                    On Thursday the OECD released its composite leading indicators (CLI) for global economic activity, which anticipates turning points for national economies.




                    Canada's CLI – a composite of business and consumer confidence, export outlook and economic growth – is down several points from this time last year.

                    "The outlook is for stable growth momentum in the OECD area as a whole as well as for the United States, the United Kingdom and Japan. On the other hand, CLIs signal growth easing in China and Canada, albeit from relatively high levels," the OECD said in its report...

                    ...In addition to lowering capital investment, falling oil prices are dragging down business confidence.

                    In a report also released Thursday, TD Bank highlights the divergence between strong growth in the U.S. and U.K. and stability in Europe, with weakening in Canada as well as emerging economies such as China, Russia and Brazil.

                    Emerging economies are slowing, while advanced economies are picking up, said TD deputy chief economist Derek Burleton...

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                    • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

                      This is a good start to change wage inequality:

                      http://cdanews.com/2015/04/seattle-c...-70000-a-year/

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                      • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

                        small in scale, large as emblematic of our 'post-industrial' economy . . . .

                        Via Bloomberg:


                        Barely a decade old, “P2P” has gone mainstream and is now being co-opted by some of the big financial players it was supposed to bypass.

                        Investment funds can’t get enough of this business, which involves lending to people over the Internet and hoping they pay you back. Investors are snapping up the loans directly, while the banks are bundling them into securities, much as they did with subprime mortgages.

                        Now peer-to-peer lending and its Internet enablers like LendingClub Corp., the industry leader, are being pulled into the high-octane world of derivatives. While many hail Wall Street’s growing involvement, others warn investors could get carried away, as they did during the dot-com era and again during the mortgage mania. The new derivatives could help people hedge their risks, but they could also lure speculators into the market.

                        “It feels like the year 2000 again,” said Frank Rotman, a partner at QED Investors, an Alexandria, Virginia-based venture-capital firm that has invested in Prosper Marketplace Inc., Social Finance Inc. and 13 other P2P lending platforms. “Everyone is chasing ’it,’ but they don’t know what ’it’ is, and that is kind of scary.”

                        Of course voracious demand is a direct product of central bank policies that have sent investors searching far and wide for yield and they’ve apparently become so desperate they’re now willing to gamble on the payment streams generated by loans made on peer-to-peer platforms.


                        It’s easy to see why investors are so enthusiastic. In today’s low-interest-rate world, high-quality P2P loans yield about 7.6 percent. Two-year U.S. Treasuries, by comparison, were yielding a mere 0.6 percent on Friday.

                        And the same dynamic that drove the housing market off a cliff (and that very soon will do the same for the subprime auto market) is at play with peer-to-peer loans.


                        But P2P’s rapid growth also raises questions about the potential risks, including whether the firms involved might lower their standards to stay competitive. During the mortgage boom, Wall Street’s securitization machine fueled questionable lending practices. Derivatives tied to the debt were blamed for spreading their risks around the globe, and then amplifying investors’ losses when the housing market crashed.

                        But don’t worry says Mike Edman (who readers will recall knows a thing or two about derivatives), everything will be fine as long as you embed a credit default swap thus allowing investors to bet against the loans by buying protection — this would ‘balance things out’.


                        Edman, who runs New York-based Synthetic Lending Marketplace, or SLMX, has some high-profile experience. In the early 2000s, he helped invent a kind of credit-default swap that enabled some Wall Street firms to bet against U.S. subprime mortgage bonds.

                        But Edman sees little resemblance between the boom-era mortgage market of and the current peer-to-peer market. He said his derivatives will help investors hedge their bets and also improve the pricing of the underlying loans.

                        Indeed, Edman said the ability to short the loans could curb some of the enthusiasm for this asset class before any of the debt sours.

                        This sets up a scenario wherein sophisticated investors could theoretically choose the credits they want to bet against and, with the help of Wall Street, structure a synthetic deal which would then be sold to clueless investors on the premise that a 5% yield is hard to come by these days (so the investor who structured the deal would be buying protection on the tranches while everyone else would be selling protection and picking up the CDS premium, while the bank plays the middle collecting hefty fees).

                        We wonder what role LendingClub and other peer-to-peer sites will end up playing in this process and whether the online component and relatively small amounts being lent have the potential to turn the whole thing into an underwriting standard nightmare once these tech startups realize they can get paid for providing securitizable assets.

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                        • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

                          Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                          Another entry from the "Owe Canada" file.

                          Debt deleveraging? What debt deleveraging???

                          Canadian consumer debt hits new high


                          Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:02 AM EST | Updated: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 11:11 AM EST

                          Consumer debt in Canada has hit an all-time high, according to a new report from credit-monitoring firm TransUnion.

                          The average debt hit $27,485 at the end of 2012, a 6% increase from 2011. Debt rose at its fastest pace since 2009, TransUnion said...

                          ...Every province saw its average consumer debt rise, except for British Columbia, where it went down 0.09%. Debt shot up by 11.20% in Alberta, 9.39% in Quebec and 9.04% in P.E.I.

                          Credit card debt in Canada rose 0.12% from last year, lines of credit rose 2.64%, instalment loan debt increased 6.71% and automobile debt rose 8.93%...

                          Some choice items from the Globe:

                          Exhibit One; "It's okay, we're borrowing to invest"

                          1999 versus 2012







                          Exhibit Two: "A man for all seasons, a debt for all ages"

                          1999 versus 2012




                          Exhibit Three: " Ottawa giveth, and Ottawa taketh away"

                          "The most important domestic financial system risk is the inability of highly indebted households to service their debt in the face of a sharp decline in their incomes, leading to a large and widespread correction in house prices. This risk continues to be rated as elevated. The probability of this risk materializing is low, but if it were to materialize, the effect on the economy and financial system could be severe."

                          Financial System Review: December 2014
                          Bank of Canada

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                          • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

                            The figures below are from last year, before the commodity rout really go underway. With the collapsing hydrocarbon energy sector laying a licking on the west of the country, and Newfoundland, I expect property-mongering is now an even larger percentage of the economy today.

                            The second chart shows the vulnerability of the export sector, and why the Canuckbuck (the Northern Peso) has been hammered against the US$, and almost certainly heading down some more when the inevitable bursting comes in the property market.



                            Last edited by GRG55; August 06, 2015, 01:45 PM.

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                            • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

                              It's not looking good for Canada. With the commodity/energy sector down across the world, the dollar rising in value and the Fed about to hike interest rates the EM complex is toast.

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                              • Re: A Tale of Two Economies...

                                With the top two markets cratering in value it doesn't look good long term for Canadian export markets.


                                Originally posted by GRG55 View Post


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