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  • #16
    Re: Q4 2012 Advance Estimate: GDP "unexpectedly" Contracts 0.1%

    ART CASHIN: The GDP Report Sent A Recession Warning That Hasn't Been Wrong Since 1948
    From this morning's Cashin's Comments:
    The Other GDP – While most of headlines concentrated on the 4th Quarter GDP, it did give us a look at the annual GDP for 2012. It figures to about 1.5% (not the 4% growth that I think was the Fed's projection).
    For why that annual reading may be important, let me quote my Bloomberg pal, Rich Yamarone:
    The year-over-year change in real GDP was 1.5 percent. There has never been a time since measurement commenced in 1948 when the annual pace of real GDP has fallen that low without the economy ultimately slipping into recession. Sub-2.0 percent readings are historically the warning signal.
    http://www.businessinsider.com/art-c...#ixzz2Jaq4ac94

    Summary

    There are several quarter-to-quarter "take aways" from the report:

    -- As detailed above, the contraction was driven primarily by dramatic (but not unexpected) reversals to the one-quarter spikes in government spending and inventory growth, which sharply (and conveniently) improved the headline number just prior to the November election. At best both of those one-quarter binges simply brought zero-sum economic activity forward by a quarter, and at worse we will see both of these surges later treated as data anomalies that disappear in future revisions.

    -- For those of us who follow these numbers closely (and perhaps foolishly try to make some longer-term sense of them), the inexplicable economic surge reported for the third quarter has now at least reversed, and the general weakening pattern previously recorded for 2012 seems to have been confirmed.

    -- The consumer data was actually a modest bright spot. Per-capita disposable income increased substantially, as did personal consumption expenditures for both goods and services. Similarly commercial fixed investment expenditures improved.

    But there are several longer term issues with the data:

    -- We have mentioned before that the BEA is notoriously poor at recording turning points in the economy in "real time." The first quarter of 2008 was a classic example, initially being reported in "real time" as yet another quarter of sustained growth before being revised downward several times over some 40 months to become the first quarter of contraction leading into what we now call the "Great Recession." We fully expect that ultimately the surprising economic upturn seen in the 3Q-2012 data will largely vanish in future revisions.

    -- And in truth it is hard to look at these new numbers without at least some cynical thoughts about the reported numbers for the prior quarter. We were frankly astonished when the final numbers for the third quarter came in at a 3.09% "full recovery" growth rate, driven largely by unexplained increases in Federal spending, particularly in the Department of Defense (DOD) -- the timing of which was completely controlled by an Administration in serious need of positive pre-election economic headlines. The annualized rates of growth for defense spending rose to over 15% in 3Q-2012, only to magically reverse to a -15% annualized contraction rate in 4Q-2012 -- after the polls had closed.

    To that last point: arguably the DOD was simply moving materiel acquisitions forward in anticipation/avoidance of "fiscal cliff" sequesters, with the economic impact of the contracting binge a mere side effect of bureaucratic hoarding. We should all hope that the context of any such timing shenanigans were more budgetary than political in nature.
    http://www.consumerindexes.com/2013-...ommentary.html
    "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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    • #17
      Re: Q4 2012 Advance Estimate: GDP "unexpectedly" Contracts 0.1%

      You'll end up whipsawed if you short this upswing. With nothing else for the PDs to buy - the blow-off in stocks is accelerating & the flash-crash post-poned.

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      • #18
        Re: Q4 2012 Advance Estimate: GDP "unexpectedly" Contracts 0.1%

        Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
        I'm amused (but not surprised) that the Fed isn't being called for using that lame excuse.

        “Growth in economic activity paused in recent months, in large part because of weather-related disruptions and other transitory factors,” the FOMC said yesterday hours after the Commerce Department said gross domestic product shrank at an annual rate of 0.1 percent during the fourth quarter...



        If the Fed really thought this was the case why would it need to do this much to deal with "transitory factors"?

        The FOMC said asset purchases will remain divided between $40 billion a month of mortgage-backed securities and $45 billion a month of Treasury securities. The Fed will continue reinvesting any Treasury securities that mature and will reinvest its portfolio of maturing housing debt into agency mortgage-backed securities.

        The Fed also left unchanged its statement that it plans to hold its target interest rate near zero as long as unemployment remains above 6.5 percent and inflation remains no more than 2.5 percent...
        bad weather... isn't that the fave excuse of clothing retailers for a bad quarter?

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        • #19
          Re: Q4 2012 Advance Estimate: GDP "unexpectedly" Contracts 0.1%

          Originally posted by metalman View Post
          bad weather... isn't that the fave excuse of clothing retailers for a bad quarter?
          Retailers of every sort, DIY building supply stores, homebuilders, auto dealerships, resort hotel chains, restaurants, and few others that I have forgotten to list. About the only thing that doesn't seem to slow down for the weather is shale oil and gas fracing and the Tax Dept... :-)

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