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    It looks like economic growth will pickup over the next few years. I've written about this before - a combination of growth in the key housing sector, a significant amount of household deleveraging behind us, the end of the drag from state and local government layoffs (four years of austerity nearing the end), some loosening of household credit, and the Fed staying accommodative (with a 7.8% unemployment rate and inflation below the Fed's target, the Fed will remain accommodative).

    The key short term risk is too much additional deficit reduction too quickly. There is a strong argument that the "fiscal agreement" might be a little too much with the current unemployment rate - my initial estimate was that Federal government austerity would subtract about 1.5 percentage points from growth in 2013 (Merrill Lynch estimate up to 2.0 percentage points including an estimate for the coming sequester agreement). This means another year of sluggish growth, even with an improved private sector (retail will be impacted by the payroll tax increase). But ex-austerity, we'd probably be looking at a decent year.

    Here are a few graphs:



    Click on graph for larger image.


    This graph shows total and single family housing starts. Even after the 28.1% in 2012, the 780 thousand housing starts in 2012 were the fourth lowest on an annual basis since the Census Bureau started tracking starts in 1959. Starts averaged 1.5 million per year from 1959 through 2000. Demographics and household formation suggests starts will return to close to that level over the next few years. That means starts will come close to doubling from the 2012 level.

    Residential investment and housing starts are usually the best leading indicator for economy, so this suggests the economy will continue to grow over the next couple of years.



    The second graph shows total state and government payroll employment since January 2007. State and local governments lost 129,000 jobs in 2009, 262,000 in 2010, and 230,000 in 2011. In 2012, state and local government employment declined by 26,000 jobs.

    Note: The dashed line shows an estimate including the benchmark revision.

    It appears most of the state and local government layoffs are over. Some states like California are close to running a surplus, and, as the BLS reported this morning, even Nevada is seeing a sharp improvement in the unemployment rate.



    And another key graph on the US deficit. As we've been discussing, the US deficit as a percent of GDP has been declining, and will probably decline to around 3% in fiscal 2015.

    This graph shows the actual (purple) budget deficit each year as a percent of GDP, and an estimate for the next three years based on current policy (Jan Hatzius at Goldman Sachs estimates the deficit will 3% of GDP in 2015). Note: With 7.8% unemployment, there is a strong argument for less deficit reduction in the short term, but that doesn't seem to be getting any traction.



    Here are a couple of graph on household debt (and debt service):

    This graph from the the NY Fed shows aggregate consumer debt decreased in Q3. This was mostly due to a decline in mortgage debt.

    Household debt peaked in Q2 2008 and has been declining for over four years. There is probably more deleveraging ahead (mostly from foreclosures and distressed sales), but this suggests some improvement in household balance sheets.



    The second graph is from the Fed's Household Debt Service and Financial Obligations Ratios. These ratios show the percent of disposable personal income (DPI) dedicated to debt service (DSR) and financial obligations (FOR) for households.

    The graph shows the DSR for both renters and homeowners (red), and the homeowner financial obligations ratio for mortgages and consumer debt. The overall Debt Service Ratio has declined back to early 1980s levels, and is near the record low - thanks to very low interest rates. The homeowner's financial obligation ratio for consumer debt is at 1994 levels.

    The blue line is the homeowner's financial obligation ratio for mortgages (blue). This ratio increased rapidly during the housing bubble, and continued to increase until 2008. Now, with falling interest rates, and less mortgage debt (mostly due to foreclosures), the ratio is back to 2001 levels. This will probably decline further, but for many homeowners, the obligation ratio is low.

    There are several tailwinds for the economy, and the headwinds (like household deleveraging) are mostly subsiding. Deficit reduction is on a reasonable path - we don't want to reduce the deficit much faster than this projection for the next few years, because that will be too much of a drag on the economy.

    Overall it appears the economy is poised for more growth over the next few years.

    What about the longer term?

    There are a number of longer term challenges from rising health care expenditures, climate change, income and wealth inequality and more, but I remain very optimistic about the longer term too. There is a constant focus on the aging population, but by 2020, eight of the top ten largest cohorts (five year age groups) will be under 40, and by 2030 the top 11 cohorts are the youngest 11 cohorts. The renewing of America! And these young people are smart (less exposure to lead is asignificant story), and well educated too. I'll write more on the long term soon.

    Last year, I said that looking forward I was the most optimistic since the '90s. And things are only getting better. The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades.
    Read more at http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/20...tYweK4xjAv1.99


    http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/20...so-bright.html

    Very bullish words coming from Bill McBride of Calculated Risk, a guy that has been right about a lot of things in the last few years. What is he doing wrong?

    Here's one thing that annoys me: this talk about some mythical trend of "develeveraging" that has allegedly been going on and is even almost concluded. From the point of view of total debt, there has been no deleveraging to speak of. All the debt from the private sector has been moved to the public sector with no true reduction occurring in aggregate.

    Any debt service relief that has been going on in the total credit market has been entirely in the form of lowered interest rates. And it is far from a straight-forward matter than these rates can be kept as low as they are for very long.
    "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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    Re: Bill McBride: The Future's so Bright ...

    you can consistently be right so long as the Fed has it's foot on the gas pedal and the bond market does not throw up on you.

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      Re: Bill McBride: The Future's so Bright ...

      Originally posted by NCR85 View Post
      Here's one thing that annoys me: this talk about some mythical trend of "develeveraging" that has allegedly been going on and is even almost concluded. From the point of view of total debt, there has been no deleveraging to speak of. All the debt from the private sector has been moved to the public sector with no true reduction occurring in aggregate.
      The takeaway I had the other day from the "Gartman" thread is the idea that either finance will fuel our growth through debt or the government will fuel it. It's clear we have no plan to grow our economy without massive amounts of debt. We began financial deleveraging without choosing to do so in 2009 and the government doubled down on re-leveraging. When Cinton deleveraged in 1996, finance put the peddle down. The end of this isn't 20 years away but when?

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        Re: Bill McBride: The Future's so Bright ...

        Originally posted by Calculated Risk
        Since I started this blog in January 2005, I've been pretty lucky on calling the business cycle. I argued no recession in 2005 and 2006, then at the beginning of 2007 I predicted a recession would start that year (made it by one month with the Great Recession starting in December 2007). And in 2009, I argued the economy had bottomed and we'd see sluggish growth.

        Finally, over the last 18 months, a number of forecasters (mostly online) have argued a recession was imminent. I responded that I wasn't even on "recession watch", primarily because I thought residential investment was bottoming.

        Now one of my blogging goals is to see if I can get lucky again and call the next recession correctly. Right now I'm pretty optimistic (see: The Future's so Bright ...) and I expect a pickup in growth over the next few years (2013 will be sluggish with all the austerity).

        The next recession will probably be caused by one of the following (from least likely to most likely):

        3) An exogenous event such as a pandemic, significant military conflict, disruption of energy supplies for any reason, a major natural disaster (meteor strike, super volcano, etc), and a number of other low probability reasons. All of these events are possible, but they are unpredictable, and the probabilities are low that they will happen in the next few years or even decades.

        2) Significant policy error. This might involve premature or too rapid fiscal or monetary tightening (like the US in 1937 or eurozone in 2012). Two examples: not reaching a fiscal agreement and going off the "fiscal cliff" probably would have led to a recession, and Congress refusing to "pay the bills" would have been a policy error that would have taken the economy into recession. Both are off the table now, but there remains some risk of future policy errors.

        Note: Usually the optimal path for reducing the deficit means avoiding a recession since a recession pushes up the deficit as revenues decline and automatic spending (unemployment insurance, etc) increases. So usually one of the goals for fiscal policymakers is to avoid taking the economy into recession. Too much austerity too quickly is self defeating.

        1) Most of the post-WWII recessions were caused by the Fed tightening monetary policy to slow inflation. I think this is the most likely cause of the next recession. Usually, when inflation starts to become a concern, the Fed tries to engineer a "soft landing", and frequently the result is a recession. Since inflation is not an immediate concern, the Fed will probably stay accommodative for a few more years.

        So right now I expect further growth for the next few years (all the austerity in 2013 concerns me, especially over the next couple of quarters as people adjust to higher payroll taxes, but I think we will avoid contraction). I think the most likely cause of the next recession will be Fed tightening to combat inflation sometime in the future - and residential investment (housing starts, new home sales) will probably turn down well in advance of the recession. In other words, I expect the next recession to be a more normal economic downturn - and I don't expect a recession for a few years.


        http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2013/01/predicting-next-recession.html
        "It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here." - Deus Ex HR

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          Re: Bill McBride: The Future's so Bright ...

          Bart has said recession. ECRI has said recession. Let's see how McBride stacks up.

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            Re: Bill McBride: The Future's so Bright ...

            Originally posted by c1ue View Post
            Bart has said recession. ECRI has said recession. Let's see how McBride stacks up.
            but it would appear that Mr J is now hedging a bit on his call for same (or has moved it a bit further out)?

            the hotels out here have jacked up the rates, but it doesnt look all that busy to me, so far this month anyway....
            and my phone still aint ringin, so...

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