Gartner on the Gold Bug Thesis

[vinoveri]

There was a thread posted on this by someone this morning, that appears to have been moved behind the paywall.
I commented but now can't see the reponses

http://www.businessinsider.com/gartm...tatters-2013-1

[ProdigyofZen]

Re: Gartner on the Gold Bug Thesis

There was a thread posted on this by someone this morning, that appears to have been moved behind the paywall.
I commented but now can't see the reponses

http://www.businessinsider.com/gartm...tatters-2013-1

I dont understand why you cant pony up the cash to go behind the paywall? Jesus H christ man its pennies on the dollar for the top macro econ research that I can find.

I just dont understand.

[vinoveri]

Re: Gartner on the Gold Bug Thesis

I dont understand why you cant pony up the cash to go behind the paywall? Jesus H christ man its pennies on the dollar for the top macro econ research that I can find.

I just dont understand.

If I subscribed to every forum that gave some good insights, I'd run out of money pretty fast.

iTulip's theses and market call have not been without significant error.

Have yet to run into this situtation with other forums where post and comments in the public section are moved behind the paywall.

[globaleconomicollaps]

Re: Gartner on the Gold Bug Thesis

If I subscribed to every forum that gave some good insights, I'd run out of money pretty fast.

iTulip's theses and market call have not been without significant error.

Have yet to run into this situtation with other forums where post and comments in the public section are moved behind the paywall.

It got moved because EJ put in ( much more than) his two cents. His post would have payed for the cost of admission by itself.

By the way, aren't you the official Ambassador? I would think that would be a requirement of office.

[cobben]

Re: Gartner on the Gold Bug Thesis

If I subscribed to every forum that gave some good insights, I'd run out of money pretty fast.

I'm looking for a new internet participation model where I am paid for my contributions in various forums.

I suppose I should start my own blog or pay-for service, but there should / could be something in between.

[lektrode]

Re: Gartner on the Gold Bug Thesis

I'm looking for a new internet participation model where I am paid for my contributions in various forums.

http://seekingalpha.com/page/become-...ontributor-new

[think365]

Re: Gartner on the Gold Bug Thesis

I'm looking for a new internet participation model where I am paid for my contributions in various forums.

I suppose I should start my own blog or pay-for service, but there should / could be something in between.

On Whitewashing a Fence: The Adventures of Tom Sawyer

One of the most famous scenes in Tom Sawyer is the whitewashing of the fence. After Tom gets into trouble, Aunt Polly punishes him by making him whitewash the fence. Of course, Tom manipulates other boys into completing the job for him. By the time the fence is finished, Tom has become a wealthy boy as each boy was manipulated into buying a turn at the fence with their treasures: marbles, firecrackers, bits of glass, and other objects.The whitewashing scene is famous for a several reasons. First of all, the scene demonstrates an interesting observation: "that Work consists of whatever a body is obliged to do, and that Play consists of whatever a body is not obliged to do." The scene is also memorable because this classic manipulation is exactly the sort of thing that a rascal like Tom would do. The interaction between him and the other boys paints a vivid picture of Tom's character.

[Polish_Silver]

Re: Gartner on the Gold Bug Thesis

Isn't the idea that increased money supply will raise the gold price, at least in the long run?
And isn't money supply still increasing, QE or no QE?

Unless gartman thinks there will be net deflation, (ie lower goods prices), I don't see the logic of his argument.
Unless he thinks gold has already "priced in" all subsequent devaluation for the next 5-10 years.

[seobook]

Re: Gartner on the Gold Bug Thesis

I'm looking for a new internet participation model where I am paid for my contributions in various forums.

I suppose I should start my own blog or pay-for service, but there should / could be something in between.

As an internet marketer, I can attest that many "pay for" contributions to communities are a race to the bottom.

- On one site we had a contest where participants in it basically DDOSed our server with voting bombing scripts.
- On another site we had an affiliate from Vietnam run through loads of proxies and affiliate accounts trying to push through about $20,000 of fraud.
- There are numerous other fun experiences we have had on that front, but suffice it to say things didn't work as planned. ;)

Some have also tested things where they allowed individuals to rotate ad code based on who last posted to a thread & who started it. That model works OK for those who value a couple Dollars more than a couple hours of their time, but for those who value their time greater than the share of revenues tend to find such areas too noisy to be worthy of their time.

If you start your own blog or such you can absolutely run ads on it. But then you have to keep your software up to date (to avoid hackers), regularly create content (to keep people coming back), and engage in marketing activities (to gain more than enough new members to make up for whatever level of churn you have). Generally with ads it can take years for it to back out and provide more than a cup of coffee. And in terms of running a membership site where parts are free that is even harder because conversion rates are typically quite low.

Building communities that last is *exceptionally* hard.

[metalman]

Re: Gartner on the Gold Bug Thesis

As an internet marketer, I can attest that many "pay for" contributions to communities are a race to the bottom.

- On one site we had a contest where participants in it basically DDOSed our server with voting bombing scripts.
- On another site we had an affiliate from Vietnam run through loads of proxies and affiliate accounts trying to push through about $20,000 of fraud.
- There are numerous other fun experiences we have had on that front, but suffice it to say things didn't work as planned. ;)

Some have also tested things where they allowed individuals to rotate ad code based on who last posted to a thread & who started it. That model works OK for those who value a couple Dollars more than a couple hours of their time, but for those who value their time greater than the share of revenues tend to find such areas too noisy to be worthy of their time.

If you start your own blog or such you can absolutely run ads on it. But then you have to keep your software up to date (to avoid hackers), regularly create content (to keep people coming back), and engage in marketing activities (to gain more than enough new members to make up for whatever level of churn you have). Generally with ads it can take years for it to back out and provide more than a cup of coffee. And in terms of running a membership site where parts are free that is even harder because conversion rates are typically quite low.

Building communities that last is *exceptionally* hard.

[cobben]

Re: Gartner on the Gold Bug Thesis

As an internet marketer, I can attest that many "pay for" contributions to communities are a race to the bottom.

On a Swedish blog I recently posted a more developed version, including that I wanted to be paid for everyone that might have read my truly revolutionary Shakespearean comments even if they didn't, also that I wanted to be paid per word for being forced to read all the other stupid comments on the blog.

Then, as it has been suggested that merely linking in a blog post to any establishment media article should be considered a copyright infringement and thus should be paid for, I want in obvious reciprocity (reflexivity? didn't Soros copyright that word?) to be paid for the time it would have taken me to click over to this certainly idiotic worthless article, even if I didn't actually read it.

As you see, the possibilities are endless. As to the payment logistics and risks of fraud, etc., that is not my problem, just be sure to send me my money on time. I am of course completely honest, so I suggest a prepayment say monthly in advance for what I propose to do the next month.


This might sound like an Onion spoof, but it is real, the battle has started on Ireland, and some head honcho for the tax subsidized dinosaur media in Sweden wants to do this too.

Ireland copyright battle: Newspapers demand $400 for sharing links

The body representing Ireland’s main newspapers is demanding a minimum of $400 for third parties to directly link their articles, sparking an unprecedented copyright row which strikes at the very heart of sharing content on the World Wide Web.

The National Newspapers of Ireland (NNI) – which represents 16 national daily, Sunday and weekly newspapers, and 25 regional newspapers – defended their contentious position on Irish newspapers being linked to by third parties.

The union argued that "that display and transmission of links does constitute an infringement of copyright" under current Irish law if done for commercial purposes without prior consent and payment.

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Debate over the issue came to the forefront when domestic violence charity group Woman’s Aid was told by an NNI subsidiary it must pay $400 to display between one and five hyperlinks to newspaper articles on its site.

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[cobben]

Re: Gartner on the Gold Bug Thesis

This might sound like an Onion spoof, but it is real, the battle has started on Ireland, and some head honcho for the tax subsidized dinosaur media in Sweden wants to do this too.

Ireland copyright battle: Newspapers demand $400 for sharing links

Escalation?

The dinosaur media is not going extinct without putting up a fight.

Obama Administration Considers Joining Publishers In Fight To Stamp Out Fair Use At Universities

Okay, this is really quite unfortunate. In 2011, we wrote about an important copyright case involving three publishers suing Georgia State University for daring to have "e-reserves" that allow professors to make certain works available to students electronically via the university library.

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In a somewhat surprising move, the Justice Department jumped in and asked the court for some more time for the filing of amicus briefs from concerned third parties, because it was considering weighing in on the case. The Justice Department? Why should it be interested in a dispute concerning whether or not public university libraries are engaged in fair use by making works available to students?

In digging into this, we've heard from a few sources that it's actually the US Copyright Office that has asked the DOJ to weigh in on the side of the publishers and against the interests of public univerisities and students. Yes, the same Copyright Office that just promoted a former RIAA VP to second in command. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

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