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    http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/30/news...ion=2007103019

    Subprime: Bankruptcy bill faces roadblocks
    Legislation would give judges authority to change some mortgage terms. The bill has faced intense opposition from the banking industry.
    October 30 2007: 7:25 PM EDT


    WASHINGTON (Dow Jones/AP) -- The U.S. House Judiciary Committee could vote on a bill as early as next week that would make changes to bankruptcy law aimed at helping borrowers with subprime loans avoid foreclosure, the body's chairman said Tuesday.

    "Time is of the essence," Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., told reporters after a hearing on the topic. "If we're going to do something, we're going to have to do it right away."

    Reps. Brad Miller, D-N.C., and Linda Sanchez, D-Calif., introduced a bill last month that would allow bankruptcy judges to change some mortgage terms on a borrower's primary residence, potentially changing the interest rate and other features of a loan.

    Consumer groups have thrown their full support behind the measure, saying that it could help 600,000 homeowners avoid foreclosure in the next two years.

    The banking industry, however, has lobbied intensely against the measure, arguing that it would increase the cost of credit and create confusion in the market for mortgage debt because loan terms would be less reliable.

    "Lenders, securitizers and loan servicers would have to take various precautions to avoid or offset the significant new risks (the bill) would impose," David Kittle, chairman-elect of the Mortgage Bankers Association, said at the hearing.

    Conyers conceded that industry opposition to the bill could make it difficult to pass, but he said that it was necessary to help homeowners.

    "We can talk all we want, but this bill is going to be tough to get through the House and the Senate," Conyers said.

    Staff from the offices of Miller, Sanchez and Conyers plan to meet Wednesday with Rep. Steve Chabot, R-Ohio, to try to negotiate terms of a compromise, Conyers said.

    Chabot has introduced a more narrowly tailored bill related to homeowners and bankruptcy law, and Miller has said he is willing to compromise on his legislation if it could bring broader support.

    "That's what we're working towards, but I don't know if that's a bridge too far or not," Chabot said in an interview.

    The Miller-Sanchez bill received a broad endorsement at the hearing from Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Economy.com.
    "Odds are quickly rising that a self-reinforcing negative dynamic of foreclosures begetting house price declines begetting more foreclosures will develop in many neighborhoods across the country," Zandi said. "There is no more efficacious way to short-circuit this cycle than adopting legislation to allow bankruptcy judges the authority to modify mortgages by treating them as secured only up to the market value of the property."
    Damn! I have a lot to learn. Two years ago I was impressed when the Lending industry was able to get the bankruptcy bill through Congress. I didn’t see how they could defend their position, now I understand. The Democrats are now seen as helping the little guy, while in effect bailing out the big guys! Like EJ says, “a rolling loan gathers no loss.”

    Talk about a major lesson in illusion management.

    -Sapiens

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    Re: Subprime: Bankruptcy bill

    Originally posted by Sapiens View Post
    http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/30/news...ion=2007103019



    Damn! I have a lot to learn. Two years ago I was impressed when the Lending industry was able to get the bankruptcy bill through Congress. I didn’t see how they could defend their position, now I understand. The Democrats are now seen as helping the little guy, while in effect bailing out the big guys! Like EJ says, “a rolling loan gathers no loss.”

    Talk about a major lesson in illusion management.

    -Sapiens

    The government adjusts loans using a refinancing judge. They will throw any thing at this problem to get threw the arm adjusting period. The government will still need a new gov. sponsored program to clean up the ones not able to make it threw the adjustment period.

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    • #3
      Best to Prevent It: I lived thru Houston Housing Bust

      I lived through the Houston oil bust in the 1980's. Bad times, I knew a lot of people that lost their jobs (including spouse).

      But the absolute worst part of it was the wave after wave of foreclosures. I totally agree with Eric Jantzsen's theory on how the process works, because that is what I saw happen in Houston. It starts and is worst in the outer ring of suburbs (where I lived) and then moves progressively inward.

      The congressman is right, once foreclosures start, it's like a ball rolling down a hill and gets harder to stop as it gain momentum. Somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3's of homes in my sub-division were foreclosed. At first it was people losing their jobs and mailing in the keys.

      But as time progressed and homes lost value, the next wave started. "Homeowners" could only get 60% of their original purchase price, so even people with jobs walked away from their houses, because they couldn't sell them at all or because they would lose too much money if they did.

      The individual cannot compete on price with banks trying to unload foreclosed proprety. Some former neighbors left Houston for jobs in other areas, and some bought a home an another part of Houston area. Whatever the cause, they just walked away from their home in my sub-division.

      It's a bad downward spiral and it takes YEARS to correct. Nominal prices in sub-division did not get back to 1981 level until around 1993. On an inflation-adjusted basis, Houston area home prices got back to 1981 levels in 2001.

      If possible, it's better not to let process start. It's bad for families, the community, the local tax base, the economy. And it's a self-reinforcing cycle.

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      • #4
        Re: Subprime: Bankruptcy bill

        Originally posted by Sapiens View Post
        http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/30/news...ion=2007103019



        Damn! I have a lot to learn. Two years ago I was impressed when the Lending industry was able to get the bankruptcy bill through Congress. I didn’t see how they could defend their position, now I understand. The Democrats are now seen as helping the little guy, while in effect bailing out the big guys! Like EJ says, “a rolling loan gathers no loss.”

        Talk about a major lesson in illusion management.

        -Sapiens


        Since most the mortgage backed security are owned by Europeans, wouldn't such a bill mean a national level default by America?
        Last edited by touchring; November 06, 2007, 11:04 AM.

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        • #5
          Re: Subprime: Bankruptcy bill

          Touchring,

          The defaults are toward the original loans, which in turn affect derivatives such as CDOs, MBS, much less nth level (CDn).

          As for national default - it is not the nation that bought those houses, nor issued those loans, it is those individuals and institutions who bought all of the 'high yielding' bonds.

          Thus France as a nation won't be affected, but BNP Paribas as a French bank is.

          Admittedly it was the US government which failed to regulate the activities which caused this situation...but until the Great Depression II and Hoover II comes along, there won't be any specific person or institution which gets pinned with this donkey tail.

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