What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

[max keiser]

iTulip hypocrisy. J'accuse!!!!

Yes, I understand that Steven Colbert is extremely funny and a brilliant satirist - but FoxNews - (a current link on iTulip video of Bill O'Reilly) is a state sponsored propaganda channel that contributes to the loss of economic integrity in America; the rise of the kleptocracy class, and the bashing of human and civil rights in the U.S. is not to be supported by anyone who hopes to triumph against the rising tide of despotism in the U.S.

As iTulip readers know full well, the brilliant insights expressed on this site do not get the airing they should on mainstream broadcast TV in America -
because of obstructionist, anti-democratic, state controlled FoxNews... and her equally noxious sister CNBC.

Meanwhile, the research I do for "Death of the Dollar" "Rigged Markets" "Money Geyser" and the soon to be aired "Death of the Dollar2: Collapse of Empire" all share the same research sources of this very site and shares almost the identical conclusions - and yet - from my understanding, the majority of viewers on this site don't want to see their own views aired on an international broadcaster - seen by 120 million people - because the broadcaster happens to be owned by America's biggest ally in the Mid-East, home of America's biggest military operation in the Mid-East (outside of Israel's nukes).

I'm speaking of course about Al Jazeera English.

I find it hypocritical, bordering on racist, that the fine minds gathered here on iTulip sell themselves so short as to forbid themselves from seeing their own views rebroadcast here; after they have been aired on AJE - for reasons that one can only guess originate from the basic fact that these views regarding the dollar and the US economy in general held by this community are held without any conviction whatsoever.

For if these views are being held with conviction by brave souls who belive in freedom and justice it would not matter where these views were broadcast, let alone an ally of America.

It's true that the US economy is in dire straights and the US dollar is just beginning it's fall into the muck of a has-been currency. It is also true that along with that fall hard decisions will have to be made about how the US is led and how to change that leadership if necessary outside of the usual electoral methods.

Will the iTulip community step up, or simply hide behind their stock charts; hoping the problems just go away...

Stand up for your views. Stand up for yourselves. Stand up for something other than a quick buck shorting the dollar. Rebroadcast my films here on iTulip.

max keiser
these are available on youtube (who recently signed a deal to share ad revenues with AJE).

"death of the dollar" "rigged markets" "money geyser" "banking on it" "extraordinary antics"

coming soon: "Death of the Dollar2: Collapse of Empire" "Peak Oil" "Private Public Partnerships"

[Spartacus]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

PS - why don't you post them?

I'd love to take a gander

[max keiser]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

It's only in America where murdoch knows the population are sheeple - he broadcasts AJE on Sky in the UK... He knows Americans won't stand up for themselves or their views...

[max keiser]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

Death of the Dollar Part 1


Rigged Markets Part 1


Rigged Markets Part 2


Money Geyser Part 1


Money Geyser Part 2

[c1ue]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

I don't know about the rest of iTulip, but I do know that if half the tin foil hat shenanigans are true, that I'd rather NOT stick my head up for the scythe.

It is amazing how people do not associate a highly intrusive surveillance system like Google maps with the concept that real time tracking of targetted individuals is now possible.

Providing a physical address, a name, or even a telephone number is enough to get the system rolling. Combine that with the Internet and cell phone surveillance capabilities - and you've given up the only defense you have: being 1 herring in a vast school.

[Guest]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

Max -

I'm well traveled. No-one can accuse me of being insular. But I'm disgusted and derisive of the press alliances you have engaged to extend your public voice.

I spent a full year (greater the fool I) out of intense curiosity to discover an opposite cultural mindset, on Aljazeera's English website. I followed their articles and posted simple but thorny questions to that community.

Leave your thorny and heroically undertaken exposee's of American hypocrisies aside for a moment, and understand that in the news organization you extol, I was so severely muzzled by their webmaster that 80% of my questions to that community were not allowed to air. The bland no-political import questions were allowed to pass, while any question even faintly provocative of free thought outside the shrill ideological boundaries was squelched immediately.

BTW - Prior to departing that community, I carried on an extended private conversation with the senior editor of their web forums, who it turned out was a Yemeni PHD (which sounded like a PHD in religious studies), and explained to him, by presenting a list of my comments which he had refused to post to their web pages, how his "Journalistic Method" deserves that name about as convincingly as a pimp might be ethically qualified to run a rehab center for reformed hookers.

The fact you've found yourself unhindered to speak freely over at the hoary Al Jazeera online community tells me that the issues you wish to concentrate on are "approved" by Al Jazeera. No great sleuthing to understand why, is there? Now try stepping beyond the bounds of their approved political views and see just how much freedom of speech there you will enjoy.

I come from a family of Journalists, so press freedom is an issue I heard much discussed when I was growing up. I am by no means victim of an America-centric mindset. The one rule regarding freedom of speech I had drummed into me as a child was, if you find yourself in the company of a news outlet, or voice of any kind which consents to allow you a public voice, be watchful whether that comfortable outlet for your views is not merely one of convenience to your host.

Try posting views which are antithetical to their stance and in Al Jazeera's case you will encounter a crude and stifling censorship worthy of Pravda, or even exceeding Pravda in it's journalistic stupidity.

Contrast this with iTulip. I have posted some criticism of the views of Mr. Janszen and components of their thesis. I've got a lot of nerve to do so as his sources of intelligence on the matters I challenge are far beyond mine.

Nonetheless, what I am bound to observe is that freedom to speak out with any criticism here is the "real deal". Janszen and his crew stand back, and rigorously allow any and all to post *ALL* opinions, without the slightest hindrance. Now I don't wish to sound too devoted to this community such that this endorsement loses it's significance as having some independence of mind, but the importance of pointing this out is in the comparison, and the comparison is stunning.

iTulip's strict adherence to 100% free flow of information when contrasted against Al Jazeera evidences what a truly decrepit venue that news organization is - for totally muzzling those with whom it even disagrees in minor fashion - such people will find only one post in ten is "allowed" to post within it's forum pages. It's news articles also, are the worst kind of PRAVDA-cloned, wooden party-line commentary on real events.

You are a pigeon in a cage posting your articles there, and apparently don't even know it. This detracts from your stature, and attests to a quite remarkable propensity on your part to be manipulated, in that you have apparently no idea (or at least you profess to have no idea) of the qualitative differences regarding censorship, between iTulip and Al Jazeera.

In my now personally experienced (one full year) view of Al Jazeera therefore, you have little to be proud of touting that association, and you seem to be combining that unfortunate press association with some high flown moralistic opinions of your own which contrast unfortunately with your naivete' regarding the necessity to secure unfettered Journalism to ensure opinion is not manipulated. I suggest that you give it a rest, as for those who took the trouble to investigate that news outlet and found it to be third rate, your claims that that community was a "free and fair" voice might sound tinny at best.

Please understand this therefore - FOX set the journalistic bar quite low - so your much praised news partner referred to here is a good deal lower.

Sincerely ...

[Rajiv]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

Ann's post is quite relevant to the first video

Employees of the BLS were working into the night frantically finishing up the CPI report due the next day. A man comes into the room with a brief case locked to his arm with a handcuffs, like in an old spy movie. He opened the case, takes out some papers and says, "Here. This is the report." He takes the report prepared by the BLS workers and leaves.

[Guest]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

Max -

One other comment. You wrote:

<< I find it hypocritical, bordering on racist, that the fine minds gathered here on iTulip sell themselves so short as to forbid themselves from seeing their own views rebroadcast here >>

"Here" meaning Al Jazeera??

" hypocritical, bordering on racist" ?? - I have unfortunately come across this hackneyed and threadbare slogan (masquerading as an insight) in other pages here, specifically as regarded any disapproval of Venezuela's Chavez which was incisively analyzed there as being tantamount to "racism".

You need to recognize, that if you find yourself leaning on such morally self-congratulatory ideas, in the belief that these represent a "devastating expose" of the presumed narrow bigotry of those with whom you disagree, the astuteness of your inquiry is actually revealed to be not astute at all, but rather, is forlornly traveling along a dreary set of rails.

Those who choose to disagree with you are certainly not bigots. Dig deeper, with a little less ideological of a straightjacket, and you might just find they are merely exercising their critical faculties more diligently than you have thus far. Your much vaunted Al Jazeera endorsements are the worst kind of tripe.

[jk]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

if you do a search here on "max keiser" you'll see that the first post with a link to your/his stuff appeared on 4/6/07, with a few more following. use the search before complaining you're being ignored.

[Rajiv]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

Was your post in response to my comment about Ann's post?

[Jim Nickerson]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

Max -

I'm well traveled. No-one can accuse me of being insular. But I'm disgusted and derisive of the press alliances you have engaged to extend your public voice.

I spent a full year (greater the fool I) out of intense curiosity to discover an opposite cultural mindset, on Aljazeera's English website. I followed their articles and posted simple but thorny questions to that community.

Leave your thorny and heroically undertaken exposee's of American hypocrisies aside for a moment, and understand that in the news organization you extol, I was so severely muzzled by their webmaster that 80% of my questions to that community were not allowed to air. The bland no-political import questions were allowed to pass, while any question even faintly provocative of free thought outside the shrill ideological boundaries was squelched immediately.

BTW - Prior to departing that community, I carried on an extended private conversation with the senior editor of their web forums, who it turned out was a Yemeni PHD (which sounded like a PHD in religious studies), and explained to him, by presenting a list of my comments which he had refused to post to their web pages, how his "Journalistic Method" deserves that name about as convincingly as a pimp might be ethically qualified to run a rehab center for reformed hookers.

The fact you've found yourself unhindered to speak freely over at the hoary Al Jazeera online community tells me that the issues you wish to concentrate on are "approved" by Al Jazeera. No great sleuthing to understand why, is there? Now try stepping beyond the bounds of their approved political views and see just how much freedom of speech there you will enjoy.

I come from a family of Journalists, so press freedom is an issue I heard much discussed when I was growing up. I am by no means victim of an America-centric mindset. The one rule regarding freedom of speech I had drummed into me as a child was, if you find yourself in the company of a news outlet, or voice of any kind which consents to allow you a public voice, be watchful whether that comfortable outlet for your views is not merely one of convenience to your host.

Try posting views which are antithetical to their stance and in Al Jazeera's case you will encounter a crude and stifling censorship worthy of Pravda, or even exceeding Pravda in it's journalistic stupidity.

Contrast this with iTulip. I have posted some criticism of the views of Mr. Janszen and components of their thesis. I've got a lot of nerve to do so as his sources of intelligence on the matters I challenge are far beyond mine.

Nonetheless, what I am bound to observe is that freedom to speak out with any criticism here is the "real deal". Janszen and his crew stand back, and rigorously allow any and all to post *ALL* opinions, without the slightest hindrance. Now I don't wish to sound too devoted to this community such that this endorsement loses it's significance as having some independence of mind, but the importance of pointing this out is in the comparison, and the comparison is stunning.

iTulip's strict adherence to 100% free flow of information when contrasted against Al Jazeera evidences what a truly decrepit venue that news organization is - for totally muzzling those with whom it even disagrees in minor fashion - such people will find only one post in ten is "allowed" to post within it's forum pages. It's news articles also, are the worst kind of PRAVDA-cloned, wooden party-line commentary on real events.

You are a pigeon in a cage posting your articles there, and apparently don't even know it. This detracts from your stature, and attests to a quite remarkable propensity on your part to be manipulated, in that you have apparently no idea (or at least you profess to have no idea) of the qualitative differences regarding censorship, between iTulip and Al Jazeera.

In my now personally experienced (one full year) view of Al Jazeera therefore, you have little to be proud of touting that association, and you seem to be combining that unfortunate press association with some high flown moralistic opinions of your own which contrast unfortunately with your naivete' regarding the necessity to secure unfettered Journalism to ensure opinion is not manipulated. I suggest that you give it a rest, as for those who took the trouble to investigate that news outlet and found it to be third rate, your claims that that community was a "free and fair" voice might sound tinny at best.

Please understand this therefore - FOX set the journalistic bar quite low - so your much praised news partner referred to here is a good deal lower.

Sincerely ...

Yes, Virginia, there is a metaphor-gene. Read Lukester; however, the current post is rather shy of metaphors.

[Guest]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

Max Keiser writes -

<< For if these views are being held with conviction by brave souls who belive (sic) in freedom and justice it would not matter where these views were broadcast, let alone an ally of America. >>

What a load of disingenuous or malinformed tripe.

Al Jazeera English online is a separate news entity from the Saudi owned print news outlet. The separate online entity is completely independent of the newspaper, with an entirely different political line - and a very strident political line indeed.

They are openly endorsing Ahmadinejad as a "progressive" leader, while students attempting to post articles about the purge of progressive professors or activist students at the university of Tehran and other major universities are squelched by the Al Jazeera "moderators".

I've seen rebroadcasts of Hamas 20 minute long films indoctrinating Palestinian 6 year old children in the glory of sending their Mommas out to blow themselves up - and Al Jazeera - English was fearful to even post the smallest discussion of them.

Sloppy references, disingenuous news agency profiles, and most notably, suckered by an online "news" organization that refuses to publish any remark even faintly critical of Hamas recruitment of child suicide bombers. Sounds like a toxic mix to me.

I strongly recommend that iTulip dissociate itself in any slightest way from Al Jazeera.

For Max to indulge disingenuous attempts at appealing heroic prose "(American) brave souls who believe in freedom" while professing to be ignorant of the above cautions earns my open disrespect.

[Rajiv]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

Lukester,

aljazeeraa.com is not the aljazeera website. It is aljazeera.net/english I think you are referring to the first and not to the second!

See wiki on aljazeera

The original Al Jazeera channel was started in 1996 with a US$150 million grant from the Emir of Qatar, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa.

In April 1996, the BBC World Service's Saudi-co-owned Arabic language TV station, faced with censorship demands by the Saudi Arabian government, shut down after two years of operation. Many former BBC World Service staff members joined Al Jazeera, which at the time was not yet on air. The channel began broadcasting in late 1996.[3]

Al Jazeera's availability (via satellite) throughout the Middle East changed the television landscape of the region. Prior to the arrival of Al Jazeera, many Middle Eastern citizens were unable to watch TV channels other than state-censored national TV stations. Al Jazeera introduced a level of freedom of speech on TV that was previously unheard of in many of these countries. Al Jazeera presented controversial views regarding the governments of many Persian Gulf states, including Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain and Qatar; it also presented controversial views about Syria's relationship with Lebanon, and the Egyptian judiciary. Critics accused Al Jazeera of sensationalism in order to increase its audience share. Al Jazeera's broadcasts have sometimes resulted in drastic action: For example, on 27 January 1999, Al Jazeera had critics of the Algerian government on during their live program El-Itidjah el-Mouakass (="The Opposite Direction"). The Algerian government cut the electricity supply to at least large parts of the capital Algiers (and allegedly to large parts of the country), to prevent the program from getting seen

Also from the above wiki

Awards

• In December 1999, Ibn Rushd (Averoes) Fund for Freedom of Thought in Berlin awarded the "Ibn Rushd Award" for media and journalism for the year to Al Jazeera.[62]
• In March 2003, Al Jazeera was awarded by Index on Censorship for its "courage in circumventing censorship and contributing to the free exchange of information in the Arab world."[63]
• In April 2004, Webby Awards nominated Al Jazeera as one of the five best news Web sites, along with BBC News, National Geographic, RocketNews and The Smoking Gun. According to Tifanny Schlain, the founder of the Webby Awards, this caused a controversy as [other media organisations] "felt it was a risk-taking site".[64]
• In 2004, Al Jazeera was voted by brandchannel.com readers as the fifth most influential global brand behind Apple Computer, Google, Ikea and Starbucks.[65]

wiki on aljazeera.com

Aljazeera.com is an English language website for AlJazeera Magazine. It is unrelated to the Arabic satellite TV channel Al Jazeera, which operates websites in both Arabic (www.aljazeera.net) and English (english.aljazeera.net) or Al Jazeera Newspaper of Saudi Arabia. According to Alexa, there are fewer visitors to Aljazeera.com in comparison to aljazeera.net.[1] The website is operated by Aljazeera Publishing, described as an "independent media organisation".

See also

Jazeera Space Channel TV Station v. AJ Publishing aka Aljazeera Publishing

and

Aljazeera - Website Domain Name Dispute

When the word "Aljazeera" is mentioned what do you think of? That is exactly the dispute that was recently argued and settled before the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) Arbitration and Mediation Center, in Jazeera Space Channel TV Station v. AJ Publishing aka Aljazeera Publishing in Case No. D2005-0309.

Jazeera Space Channel TV Station (Aljazeera TV) based in Doha, Qatar, filed a complaint against AJ Publishing aka Aljazeera Publishing (Aljazeera Publishing) having an office in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. The complaint before this international body filed by Aljazeera TV had raised many issues, but the focus of the dispute was the domain name "aljazeera.com" which is owned and operated by Aljazeera Publishing.
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In the end the panelist agreed with the arguments presented by Aljazeera Publishing and were not persuaded by any of the evidence presented by Aljazeera TV. The Panel held the view that Aljazeera TV was not able to provide any evidence that Aljazeera Publishing registered the domain name "aljazeera.com" in bad faith.

A majority of the Panel also concluded that the Complaint by Aljazeera TV was brought in bad faith and constituted an abuse of the Administrative Proceeding. For these and other similar reasons the Complaint by Aljazeera TV was denied, and Aljazeera Publishing retained all rights to the domain name "aljazeera.com."

Lessons Learned

Thus, in this global market it is very important for any business, small or large, to secure its Intellectual Property rights. These Intellectual Property rights could be in the form of a trade name, a trademark, a service mark, a domain name, to name a few.

[metalman]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

the vids are pretty good. i wish my cable company carried al jazeeraa english. they don't because the arab al jazeeraa ran the pearl vid and others they should not have and veiwers don't know the diff... it's all al jazeeraa. my friends just call it the beheading channel.

[metalman]

Re: What's so funny about Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews?

and i voted no in the poll because itulip will look like it's supporting a network that ran the perl vid even if was a different al jazeeraa that did.