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  • Debt Forgiveness with American Characteristics

    By STEVEN LEE MYERS

    WASHINGTON — Nearly 16 months after first pledging to help Egypt’s failing economy, the Obama administration is nearing an agreement with the country’s new government to relieve $1 billion of its debt as part of an American and international assistance package intended to bolster its transition to democracy, administration officials said.

    The administration’s efforts, delayed by Egypt’s political turmoil and by wariness in Washington about new leaders emerging from its first free elections, gained new urgency in recent weeks, even as the United States risks losing influence and investment opportunities to countries like China, which President Mohamed Morsi chose for his first official visit outside of the Middle East.

    In addition to the debt assistance, the administration has thrown its support behind a $4.8 billion loan being negotiated between Egypt and the International Monetary Fund. Last week, it dispatched the first of two delegations to work out details of the proposed debt assistance, as well as $375 million in financing and loan guarantees for American financiers who invest in Egypt and a $60 million investment fund for Egyptian businesses.

    The assistance underscores the importance of shoring up Egypt at a time of turmoil and change across the Middle East, from the relatively peaceful uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia to the still-unfinished transition in Libya, and from the showdown over Iran’s nuclear program to the war in Syria. Given Egypt’s influence in the Arab world, the officials said, its economic recovery and political stability could have a profound influence on other nations in transition and ease wariness in Israel about the tumultuous political changes under way.

    The administration’s revived push came after Mr. Morsi won the presidency in June and overcame a constitutional showdown with the country’s military rulers. Mr. Morsi and his party, the Muslim Brotherhood, have since made it clear that the struggling economy is their most urgent priority, brushing aside reservations about American and international assistance and outright opposition to it from other Islamic factions.

    In fact, American officials say they have been surprised by how open Mr. Morsi and his advisers have been to economic reforms, with a sharp focus on creating jobs.

    “They sound like Republicans half the time,” one administration official said, referring to leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamic movement turned political party that was long barred from office under the former president, Hosni Mubarak, a close American ally.

    Hoping to capitalize on what they see as a ripening investment climate, the State Department and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce will take executives from nearly 50 American companies like Caterpillar and Xerox to Cairo beginning Saturday as part of one of the largest trade delegations ever organized. The officials and executives will urge the government to make changes in taxation, bankruptcy and labor laws to improve the investment climate.

    “It’s important for the U.S. to give Egypt a reason to look to the West, as well as the East,” said Lionel Johnson, the chamber’s vice president for the Middle East and North Africa.

    From the start of the popular uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt in 2011, President Obama and others argued that the United States and the rest of the world needed to address the poverty and joblessness that fueled popular anger and ultimately opposition to authoritarian governments in the region.

    The assistance that Mr. Obama first pledged in a speech at the State Department in May 2011 has been slow in coming, however, because of the political turmoil and street unrest in Egypt, the sluggish bureaucracy in Washington and anger in Congress over the prosecution by Egypt of American nongovernmental organizations that promote democracy. The delay has frustrated officials who fear that the United States has risked missing an opportunity to reshape a relationship that for decades was focused more on arms sales and security than on economic prosperity for a broad group of Egyptians.

    “Our goal is to send a very strong message to Egypt that the government understands it’s not just about assistance,” Deputy Secretary of State Thomas R. Nides, who will travel with the Chamber of Commerce delegation, said in an interview. “It’s about growth and business.”

    Egypt’s economy is increasingly precarious, with dwindling foreign-exchange reserves and nagging unemployment. The instability that followed the toppling of Mr. Mubarak devastated tourism, one of the country’s greatest sources of foreign currency. Saudi Arabia and Qatar have stepped in to provide emergency infusions totaling $3 billion, while China offered Mr. Morsi a $200 million loan for Egypt and signed investment contracts in agriculture and telecommunications.

    The director of the International Monetary Fund, Christine Lagarde, took the unusual step of attending the opening negotiations for its $4.8 billion loan, underscoring the urgency of Egypt’s crisis and the international community’s determination to help. A year ago, when the military leaders dominated the transitional government, Egypt refused to even discuss a loan.

    Egypt’s new prime minister, Hesham Qandil, said he hoped the loan would be completed by the end of the year. Officials from this week’s delegation have remained in Egypt to hammer out the details of the American debt assistance, which they said would be completed in conjunction with the International Monetary Fund program.

    Egypt’s debt to the United States exceeds $3 billion, most of it from a program called Food for Peace that offered loans to buy American agricultural products after the Camp David peace accords with Israel during the Carter administration. The $1 billion in debt relief proposed by Mr. Obama has been cobbled together from assistance programs that have not been spent over the last few years.

    The administration is negotiating whether to waive some debt payments altogether or allow “debt swaps,” in which the money that would otherwise pay down the American debt instead is spent on training and infrastructure projects in Egypt intended to attract private investment and create jobs. Congress has attached conditions to American assistance in Egypt, requiring Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton to certify, among other things, that the country continues to abide by its treaty with Israel.

    American and Israeli officials, including Michael B. Oren, Israel’s ambassador to the United States, have sought to assure members of Congress that assistance should proceed, despite reservations about the Muslim Brotherhood’s political rise, the officials said.

    They have argued that persistently high unemployment, especially among women and young people, could undermine Mr. Morsi’s government, causing further instability in Egypt and beyond. “Things are going to head in the wrong direction if you don’t find a way to create jobs,” another administration official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss the administration’s internal strategy.

    Robert D. Hormats, the under secretary of state for economic affairs, who led last week’s delegation, lavished praised on Mr. Morsi’s early stewardship. “The groundwork has been set with a new political leadership, a new level of energy and new opportunities to reform,” he said in Cairo on Wednesday.

    Egypt also had some requests for the United States. Mr. Qandil, the new prime minister, raised the State Department’s longstanding travel warning for Egypt, which warned of “the continuing possibility of sporadic unrest.” Mr. Qandil asked Mr. Hormats to emphasize that disruptions were limited to small parts of the country.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/04/wo...nted=2&_r=1&hp

  • #2
    Re: Debt Forgiveness with American Characteristics

    debt re-sets have been going on for decades - just not domestically . . .

    from January 5, 2010

    US Considering Debt Relief for Poor Countries

    by Brittany Schell

    WASHINGTON - Leaders in the United States Congress recently proposed a bill expanding debt relief for impoverished countries, a move hailed by development groups as progress in the fight against global poverty and unfair lending practices to poor nations.

    What's the Story?

    In mid-December, a bi-partisan group of lawmakers introduced the Jubilee Act in the U.S. House of Representatives. If passed, this bill will broaden debt relief for poor countries, reform the policies of international financial institutions, and press lenders to use responsible practices with respect to the world's poorest nations.

    The Jubilee Act would cancel the debt of up to 22 additional nations struggling with poverty.


    Every year, African nations pay approximately $14 billion in debt remunerations to wealthy nations and international financial institutions while receiving less than $13 billion in international aid.


    According to Jubilee USA, it would only cost 40 cents per American to cancel the debt that 24 impoverished countries owe to the United States, and less than $1 more to cancel the debts of these countries to the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund.


    The Jubilee Act for Responsible Lending and Expanded Debt Cancellation passed both the House of Representatives and the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 2008. But the legislation expired before passing the full Senate. The Jubilee Act of 2009 has been reintroduced in the House and the legislation is expected to come to the Senate floor in early 2010.

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    • #3
      Re: Debt Forgiveness with American Characteristics

      I'd be a supporter of debt forgiveness to select developing world nations........but I would think it would have to come with conditional agreement to prevent returning to the same exact place in a generation.

      What would stop FIRE from lending them money and then using their political special interest leverage from enforcing debt peonage again?

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        Re: Debt Forgiveness with American Characteristics

        Originally posted by lakedaemonian View Post
        I'd be a supporter of debt forgiveness to select developing world nations........but I would think it would have to come with conditional agreement to prevent returning to the same exact place in a generation.

        What would stop FIRE from lending them money and then using their political special interest leverage from enforcing debt peonage again?
        truly... i can just see the vultures waiting to swoop in...

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        • #5
          Re: Debt Forgiveness with American Characteristics

          Originally posted by lakedaemonian View Post
          I'd be a supporter of debt forgiveness to select developing world nations........but I would think it would have to come with conditional agreement to prevent returning to the same exact place in a generation.
          I believe the reverse is actually the purpose (to kick the can): reduce the debt to the point where the borrower can service the debt, issue more debt and buy beyond its means at inflated prices so that US companies can profit, thus ensuring long-term dependence and future instability:

          Hoping to capitalize on what they see as a ripening investment climate, the State Department and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce will take executives from nearly 50 American companies like Caterpillar and Xerox to Cairo beginning Saturday as part of one of the largest trade delegations ever organized. The officials and executives will urge the government to make changes in taxation, bankruptcy and labor laws to improve the investment climate.
          It's important to note this part:

          Egypt’s debt to the United States exceeds $3 billion, most of it from a program called Food for Peace that offered loans to buy American agricultural products after the Camp David peace accords with Israel during the Carter administration. The $1 billion in debt relief proposed by Mr. Obama has been cobbled together from assistance programs that have not been spent over the last few years.
          That's US-government-subsidized corn prices they've paying to the likes of Monsanto and ADP for the last generation.

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          • #6
            Re: Debt Forgiveness with American Characteristics

            The short course goes something like this: countries in what was once called The Third World are loaded up with debt. Corrupt leaders stuff foreign bank accounts with their ultimate get-away stash. False prosperity reigns . . . for awhile. Eventually the debt wall is hit - time to reset. Public funds (US taxpayers, aka the middleclass) foot the bill. FIRE, having nearly burned itself out, is restored. None of this is designed to make these nations economically independent. It's a transfer of wealth, one we're seeing close up and personal.

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            • #7
              Re: Debt Forgiveness with American Characteristics

              Also amusing how debt to foreign nations can be forgiven, but it is socialism to contemplate doing the same for Americans.

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              • #8
                Re: Debt Forgiveness with American Characteristics

                Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                Also amusing how debt to foreign nations can be forgiven, but it is socialism to contemplate doing the same for Americans.
                Only $1B of $3B is being forgiven. I don't know, but I don't think it's unheard of for U.S. private creditors (credit card companies, student loans, etc. - situations where there is no recoverable asset) to reduce principal by a significant percentage when presented with a debtor who's unable to pay. This appears to be a wholly accepted part of the FIRE scheme.

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                • #9
                  Re: Debt Forgiveness with American Characteristics

                  Originally posted by don View Post
                  The short course goes something like this: countries in what was once called The Third World are loaded up with debt. Corrupt leaders stuff foreign bank accounts with their ultimate get-away stash. False prosperity reigns . . . for awhile. Eventually the debt wall is hit - time to reset. Public funds (US taxpayers, aka the middleclass) foot the bill. FIRE, having nearly burned itself out, is restored. None of this is designed to make these nations economically independent. It's a transfer of wealth, one we're seeing close up and personal.
                  Nice summary, but the expanded version must include what happens on the ground when the debt wall is hit -> Mass unemployment/revolt/Arab Spring. That's the event that requires a reset - the revolution, not the actual financial failure itself but its repercussions.

                  These times are as tenuous for the powers that be as they are for us just trying to scrape by every day. The world they've constructed since overthrowing Mossadegh is at risk, is it not?

                  Reading these stories is reminiscent of the water war of Bechtel in Bolivia, which didn't end so well (yet) for Bechtel and its Western investors.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Debt Forgiveness with American Characteristics

                    Originally posted by bpr
                    Only $1B of $3B is being forgiven. I don't know, but I don't think it's unheard of for U.S. private creditors (credit card companies, student loans, etc. - situations where there is no recoverable asset) to reduce principal by a significant percentage when presented with a debtor who's unable to pay. This appears to be a wholly accepted part of the FIRE scheme.
                    If you mean bankruptcy, yes. This isn't in any way the same thing as forgiveness.

                    However, using individual instances of bankruptcy as opposed to national debts - I don't agree that they are similar.

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