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    dictatorial crews have a penchant for proclaiming their citizenry unworthy . . .

    Wall Street’s War on the Cities

    by MICHAEL HUDSON

    The pace of Wall Street’s war against the 99% is quickening in preparation for the kill. Having demonized public employees for being scheduled to receive pensions on their lifetime employment service, bondholders are insisting on getting the money instead. It is the same austerity philosophy that has been forced on Greece and Spain – and the same that is prompting President Obama and Mitt Romney to urge scaling back Social Security and Medicare.

    Unlike the U.S. federal government, most states and cities have constitutions that prevent them from running budget deficits. This means that when they cut property taxes, they either must borrow from the wealthy, or cut back employment and public services.

    For many years they borrowed, paying tax-exempt interest to wealthy bondholders. But carrying charges on these have mounted to a point where they now look risky as the economy sinks into debt deflation. Cities are defaulting from California to Alabama. They cannot reverse course and restore taxes on property owners without causing more mortgage defaults and abandonments. Something has to give – so cities are scaling back public spending, downsizing their school systems and police forces, and selling off their assets to pay bondholders.

    This has become the main cause of America’s rising unemployment, helping drive down consumer demand in a Keynesian nightmare. Less obvious are the devastating cuts occurring in health care, job training and other services, while tuition rates for public colleges and “participation fees” at high schools are soaring. School systems are crumbling like our roads as teachers are jettisoned on a scale not seen since the Great Depression.

    Yet Wall Street strategists view this state and local budget squeeze as a godsend. As Rahm Emanuel has put matters, a crisis is too good an opportunity to waste – and the fiscal crisis gives creditors financial leverage to push through anti-labor policies and privatization grabs. The ground is being prepared for a neoliberal “cure”: cutting back pensions and health care, defaulting on pension promises to labor, and selling off the public sector, letting the new proprietors to put up tollbooths on everything from roads to schools. The new term of the moment is “rent extraction.”

    So having caused the fiscal crisis, the legacy of decades of property tax cuts financed by going deeper into debt are now to be paid for by leasing or selling off public assets. Chicago has leased its Skyway for 99 years to toll-collectors, and its parking meters for 75 years. Mayor Emanuel has hired J.P.Morgan Asset Management to give “advice” on how to sell privatizers the right to charge user fees for previously free or subsidized public services. It is the modern American equivalent of England’s Enclosure Movements of the 16th to 18th century.

    By depicting local employees as public enemy #1, the urban crisis is helping put the class war back in business. The financial sector argues that paying pensions (or even a living wage) absorbs tax revenue that otherwise can be used to pay bondholders. Scranton, Pennsylvania has reduced public-sector wages to the legal minimum “temporarily,” while other cities are seeking to break pension plans and deferred-wage contracts – and going to the Wall Street casino and play losing games in a desperate attempt to cover their unfunded pension liabilities. These recently were estimated to total $3 trillion, plus another $1 trillion in unfunded health care benefits.

    Although it is Wall Street that engineered the bubble economy whose bursting has triggered the urban fiscal crisis, its lobbyists and their Junk Economic theories are not being held accountable. Rather than blaming the tax cutters who gave bankers and real estate moguls a windfall, it is teachers and other public employees who are being told to give back their deferred wages, which is what pensions are. No such clawbacks are in store for financial predators.

    Instead, foreclosure time has arrived to provide a new grab bag as cities are forced to do what New York City did to avert bankruptcy in 1974: turn over management to Wall Street nominees. As in Greece and Italy, elected politicians are to be replaced by “technocrats” appointed to do what Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair did to England: sell off what remains of the public sector and turn every social program into a profit center.

    The plan is to achieve three main goals. First, give privatizers the right to turn public infrastructure into tollbooth opportunities. The idea is to force cities to balance budgets by leasing or selling off their roads and bus systems, schools and prisons, real estate and other natural monopolies. In the process, this promises to create a new market for banks: lending to vulture investors to buy rights to install tollbooths on the economy’s basic infrastructure.

    Elected public officials could not engage in such predatory and anti-labor policies. Only the “magic of the marketplace” can break public labor unions, downsize public services and put tollbooths on the roads, water and sewer systems while cutting back bus lines and raising fares.

    To achieve this financial plan, it is necessary is to frame the problem in a way that rules out less anti-social alternatives. As Margaret Thatcher put matters, TINA: There Is No Alternative to selling off public transportation, real estate, and even school systems and jails.

    Dismantling public education and police departments to pay bondholders

    Local tax policy used to be about education. The United States was divided into fiscal grids to finance school districts, along with roads and bus lines, water and sewer systems. Municipalities with better schools taxed their property more, but this made it more desirable to live in such districts, and thus raised rather than lowered real estate prices. This made urban improvement self-feeding. Lower-taxed districts were left behind.

    This no longer is the American way. Education in particular has been demonized. California’s formerly great school system is the most visible casualty of the state’s Proposition 13, the property tax freeze enacted in 1978. The Los Angeles Apartment Owners Association employed its political front man, Howard Jarvis, as a lobbyist to promise voters that little would change by cutting back education and libraries. He claimed that “63 percent of the graduates are illiterate, anyway,” so who needed books. Education and other parts of public spending was frozen as property taxes were slashed by 57% – from 2.5 or 3% down to just 1% of assessed valuation, and were frozen at 1978 price levels for owners who have kept their property. The result is that California’s school system has plunged to 47th rank in the nation.

    For neoliberals, the silver lining is that downgrading education makes citizens more susceptible to the Tea Party’s false consciousness when it comes to how to vote in their economic interest. Back when Prop. 13 was passed, for instance, commercial investors promised homeowners that across-the-board tax cuts would make housing more affordable and that rents would fall. But they rose, along with real estate prices. This is the Big Lie of neoliberal tax cutters: the promise that cutting tax will lower costs rather than provide a windfall for property owners – and also for banks as rising rental values are “free” to be capitalized into larger mortgage loans. New buyers need to pay more, raising the cost of living and doing business.

    Back in 1978 on the eve of Proposition 13 commercial owners paid half the real estate taxes and homeowners the other half. But now the homeowners’ share has risen to two-thirds, while commercial taxes have fallen to one-third. Bank loan officers have capitalized the tax cuts into larger mortgages, so housing prices have risen, not fallen.Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa exclaimed ruefully last year that “the time is now to address the inequity of Prop 13 that allows large corporate interests to get a windfall meant for homeowners. We are not funding government. We are just decimating government and the services it provides.”[1] He proposed a two-tier property tax, restoring higher rates for commercial and absentee investors.

    School teaching is an exhausting occupation. That is one reason why teachers are one of America’s strongest labor unions. Their wages have not risen as fast as their expenses, because they have agreed to take less income in the short run in order to get pensions after their working days end. These contracts are now under attack – to pay bondholders. States and cities are now insisting that bondholders cannot be paid without stiffing their labor force.

    So we are now seeing the folly of untaxing property and replacing tax revenues with borrowing – paying tax-exempt interest to the nation’s wealthiest bondholders. Cutting the property tax base thus finds its twin casualty in the wave of defaults on pension promises.

    Real estate taxes have plunged from two-thirds of urban revenues in the 1920s to just one-sixth today for the United States as a whole. Federal grants-in-aid also are being cut back, and state aid to the cities is following suit. But instead of making housing more affordable, these tax cuts have “freed” rental value from the tax collector only to end up being paid to the banks.

    Here too, California has led the way. In 1996 its voters approved Prop. 218, requiring any new tax, fee or property assessment to be approved by two-thirds of voters. (A few exemptions were made to keep local sew er and water systems viable.) This stratagem “starves the beast,” with the “beast” being public infrastructure and social services. Police forces are being downsized and social programs are cut back. And as urban poverty increases, crime rates are rising, imposing an “invisible” cost of living.

    The most important economic fact to recognize is thus that whatever the tax collector relinquishes tends to be capitalized into mortgage loans. And by leaving more rent available to be paid as interest, cutting property taxes obliges homebuyers to go deeper into debt. Lower property taxes thus mean higher housing prices – on credit, because a home or other real estate is worth whatever a bank will lend to new buyers. So by capitalizing the after-tax rental value into a flow of interest, bankers end up with the rent – and hence, with the property tax cuts.

    That is what a free market means today – income created by public-sector investment, “freed” to be paid to banks as interest rather than to be recaptured by government.

    Most urban revenue is a free lunch created by taxpayer-financed roads, schools, sewers and water systems. But neither real estate speculators nor their bankers believe that this investment by taxpayers should be recovered by taxing the increased site values created by providing these public services. Instead of making the public sector self-financing as it expands public services to create wealth, private owners are to get the benefit – while banks capitalize the gains into larger mortgage loans, which now account for 80% of bank credit.

    The core of the bankers’ “false consciousness” – the cover story with which Tea Party lobbyists are seeking to indoctrinate U.S. voters – is that taxes on land and financial assets punish the “job creators.” Going on the offence, the beneficiaries of this public spending claim that they need to be pampered with tax preferences to invest and employ labor, while the 99% need to be kicked and prodded to work harder by being paid low wages. This false narrative ignores the fact our greatest growth periods are those in which U.S. individual and corporate tax rates have been highest. The same is true in most countries. What is stifling economic growth is the debt overhead – owed to the 1% – and tax cuts on free lunch wealth.

    The public pension squeeze is part of the overall debt crisis

    Republican Vice Presidential nominee Paul Ryan and Texas Governor Rick Perry have characterized Social Security as a Ponzi scheme. This is true in the obvious sense that retirees are supposed to be paid out of contributions to new entrants. That is how any pay-as-you-go system is supposed to work. The problem is not that the system needed to be pre-funded to provide the government with revenue to cut taxes on the 1%. The problem is that new contributions are drying up as the economy buckles under its expanding debt overhead.

    Social Security can easily be paid. After the 2007 crash the Fed printed $13 trillion on its computers to give to bankers. It can do the same for Social Security – and for federal grants-in-aid to America’s states and cities. It can pay state and local pension obligations in the same way it has paid Wall Street’s 1%. The problem is that the Fed is only willing do what central banks were founded to do – finance government deficits – to give to the banks. The aim is to save bondholders and the banks’ high-flying counterparties, not the 99%.

    The problem is that the financial system itself is rotten. This has turned today’s class war into a financial war, with the major tactic being to shape how voters perceive the problem. The trick is to make them think that cutting taxes will lower their living costs and make housing cheaper, rather than enabling banks to take what the tax collector used to take. That is the key perception that needs to be spread: cutting taxes leaves more “free lunch” income available for banks to lend against, loading the economy deeper into debt.

    Here’s why the present track can’t possibly work. State and local pension funds are $3 trillion behind because they are only making 1% returns these days (the only safe return), not the 8+% that they were told to make in order to pay pensions by “capital” gains (that is, the bank-financed free lunch). The Fed is keeping interest rates low in an attempt to re-inflate real estate and other asset prices back to the happy decade of Bubblemeister Greenspan. If interest rates rise – by enough to enable California, Chicago and other localities to obtain enough interest to pay retirees what they promised – then banks will see the collateral for their mortgage loans fall.

    So the Fed has locked the economy into low returns. Neither Democratic nor Republican politicians are willing to raise taxes on the finance, insurance and real estate (FIRE) sector. They vote in line with what their campaign contributors are paying for – to make Wall Street rich.

    At issue is the old Who/Whom choice. Given the mathematical fact that debts that can’t be paid, won’t be, the question is who should get priority: the 1% or the 99%?

    Debt-ridden austerity and downsizing government is being urged as if it is inevitable, not a policy choice to put bondholders and the 1% over the 99% – a reward for the lobbying money it has spent on buying politicians and misleading voters to believe that cutting property taxes and cutting taxes on the rich will help the economy.

    But if America still lets the 1% write the laws – or what turns out to be the same thing these days, to contribute to the political campaigns of lawmakers – then the economy will get much poorer, quickly. The era of America growth will be over.

    Something has to give: If bondholders won’t be paid, states cannot pay labor’s deferred wages in the form of pensions, and will have to cut back public services.

    So it’s time to default. Otherwise, Wall Street will turn us into Greece. That is the financial plan, to be sure. It is the strategy for today’s financial war against society at large. In Latvia, I spoke to the lead central banker, who explained that wages in the public sector had fallen by 30 percent, helping push down private-sector wages nearly as far. Neoliberals call this “internal devaluation,” and promise that it will make economies more competitive. The reality is that it will up the internal market and drive labor to leave.

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/08/...on-the-cities/


    Michael Hudson is the author most recently of The Bubble and Beyond (available on Amazon), which charts the financial and real estate pyramid at the root of the urban fiscal crisis. He is Distinguished Professor of Economics at the University of Missouri (Kansas City).

    Notes.

    [1] Adam Nagourney, “Tax Cuts From ’70s Confront Brown Again in California,” The New York Times, January 9, 2011.



  • #2
    Re: Hudson: Twilight of the Gods

    Don,

    What evidence do you have of this?

    dictatorial crews have a penchant for proclaiming their citizenry unworthy . . .

    If you don't, I got one for ya?


    http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012...ld-work-harder

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      Unlike the U.S. federal government, most states and cities have constitutions that prevent them from running budget deficits. This means that when they cut property taxes, they either must borrow from the wealthy, or cut back employment and public services.

      +1 for Hudson's succinct summation of the bond biz.

      In-house sheeple anecdote: Years ago my Dad, living in upstate NY, told me the governor had announced that in the not-to-distant future the state may not have any property taxes whatsoever. I asked my father how that would work. He said he didn't know but he liked it.

      Debt, baby . . ..

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        Originally posted by gwynedd1 View Post
        Don,

        What evidence do you have of this?
        dictatorial crews have a penchant for proclaiming their citizenry unworthy . . .

        If you don't, I got one for ya?


        http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012...ld-work-harder
        Too many to mention - most war efforts that fail take that course.

        Another is rape and pillaging your 'own people' - an 'unworthy' citizenry often fits the justification bill for such actions.

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        • #5
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          Public employees are not enemy #1, but anyone with any kind of skill in math can see the flaw in the public pension system. Of course, the same math skills would show the folly of borrowing money for ongoing operational expenses.

          Our school district took out a bond initiative to do maintenance on the school buildings. I mentioned at the time that if you can't afford maintenance you can't afford the building. So, now, we're paying interest on bonds that we issued to maintain our buildings. Meanwhile the same buildings are beginning to enter their normal decay cycle, and instead of saving money for the next round of maintenance we're paying bondholders interest.

          Don't forget, though, that it's not just the 1% who "own" bonds. Many of those bonds are paying less than inflation and are owned by pensions, and working folks hoping someday to have a pittance of income on their life savings.

          The real scam is not the folks getting small interest payments on municipal bonds. The real scam is the folks who get millions for merely shuffling the papers in the deal, or the folks who leverage huge sums of money based on interest rate bets or credit default swaps.

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            I wonder how one justfies shafting the bondholders (creditors) in favor of the state employees, whose generous pensions and healthcare would never have been possible if not for ... th bondholders.

            In reality, we should be locking up the politicians who made promises without use of generational accounting, all the while kicking th can and expecting everyone to pick up their shit decades later.

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              Originally posted by doom&gloom View Post
              I wonder how one justfies shafting the bondholders (creditors) in favor of the state employees, whose generous pensions and healthcare would never have been possible if not for ... th bondholders.

              In reality, we should be locking up the politicians who made promises without use of generational accounting, all the while kicking th can and expecting everyone to pick up their shit decades later.
              The point he was making was that the generous "unfunded" pensions/wages is always blamed rather than the change in property tax law which is what causes the shortfall in the first place.
              Without proposition 13 there would have been no bondholders in the first place as there would have been no shortfall in financing in the first place is Hudson's argument.

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                Originally posted by llanlad2 View Post
                The point he was making was that the generous "unfunded" pensions/wages is always blamed rather than the change in property tax law which is what causes the shortfall in the first place.

                Without proposition 13 there would have been no bondholders in the first place as there would have been no shortfall in financing in the first place is Hudson's argument.
                You're being too lucid. Ideology and self-interest will nearly always trump a factual argument.

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                  Originally posted by llanlad2 View Post
                  The point he was making was that the generous "unfunded" pensions/wages is always blamed rather than the change in property tax law which is what causes the shortfall in the first place.
                  Without proposition 13 there would have been no bondholders in the first place as there would have been no shortfall in financing in the first place is Hudson's argument.
                  I think that is, again, looking at it the wrong way.

                  If "the people" actually had to fund these bennies with current tax revenue, they would have NEVER allowed politicians to make such deals with the unions, plain and simple.

                  I am not an anti-union guy, or a pro-bondholder guy, I just believe that the system was corrupted by the politicians for their own benefit (power, advancement & sometimes their own pensions) and in the end, the bondholders should not be held liable for the promises of the pols. Now I know the union employees would say the same thing, but the difference is that the union employees do not have the same legal standing as the bondholders, and their own leadership should have seen this writing on the wall a long time ago.

                  BTW, Mish had a great column on how Gov. "Moonbeam" Brown has now himself shafted said unions.

                  see: http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogsp...s-we-have.html

                  California Governor Jerry Brown and lawmakers have reached a deal to raise public employees' retirement ages, have them pay more into their pension accounts, and cap retirement payments in a vast overhaul of the state's pension system that he says will save $30 billion.

                  California faces a huge liability for funding the nation's largest public pension system, but other states and cities also have enormous pension funding gaps and will be watching the state closely.

                  Brown did not get everything he wanted from lawmakers, such as a hybrid plan that would funnel some contributions into 401(k)-style accounts, and some of the deal's measures will not affect current employees.

                  "We have lived beyond our means," he said. "The chickens are coming home to roost and this is just one in a series of countermeasures that will be required over the next decade."

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                    Originally posted by doom&gloom View Post
                    I think that is, again, looking at it the wrong way.

                    If "the people" actually had to fund these bennies with current tax revenue, they would have NEVER allowed politicians to make such deals with the unions, plain and simple.

                    I am not an anti-union guy, or a pro-bondholder guy, I just believe that the system was corrupted by the politicians for their own benefit (power, advancement & sometimes their own pensions) and in the end, the bondholders should not be held liable for the promises of the pols. Now I know the union employees would say the same thing, but the difference is that the union employees do not have the same legal standing as the bondholders, and their own leadership should have seen this writing on the wall a long time ago.
                    Isn't this just a bit facile? "The people" never had to fund benefits with current tax revenue because of debt financing, which was sold to the politicians and people by financiers and bondholders--none of whom are innocent.

                    To me, it seems Hudson would concede that politicians have been "captured" by FIRE, but he looks at the situation thermodynamically: what are the inputs and outputs of the system? Interest payments are bankrupting cities; politicians come and go, while rentiers can last hundreds of years.

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                      Originally posted by btattoo View Post
                      Isn't this just a bit facile? "The people" never had to fund benefits with current tax revenue because of debt financing, which was sold to the politicians and people by financiers and bondholders--none of whom are innocent.

                      To me, it seems Hudson would concede that politicians have been "captured" by FIRE, but he looks at the situation thermodynamically: what are the inputs and outputs of the system? Interest payments are bankrupting cities; politicians come and go, while rentiers can last hundreds of years.
                      Frankly I don't think so. Everyone knows raising taxes is never popular, and that people like something for nothing. Pols know promising future bennies they do not have to fund now is a great "gimme" for votes, and "the people" don't pay enough attention to the future. Borrowing money fo ranything is like the monthly "car payment", which most people are used to and don't pay much attention to as well -- especially if it is "for the children" or "for 911 service" or anything similar. Funny how money can be diverted to so many non-essential projects but it always takes a special bond or vote to "pay" for what is essentioal, no?

                      Facile? No, by no means. The pols know EXACTLY what game they are playing. It's called "kick the can", and i'm surprised you don't know it yourself.

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                        I live in the burbs of chicago, and property taxes are really high. About 2.5% of your market value, and given the fire pumped up prices makes paying my property taxes a real burden. Median county home price is roughly 250K, which gives the median tax bill at $6250. Median income is 76K. Loss of a job with a cobra medical payments of 15K will not be sustainable for very long before you have to leave your house, even if you own it!

                        Additionally the way property taxes are calculated, they do not go down if your property values go down.
                        I was happy when my taxes when up only $100 this year. Usually this is $400 - $500 a year increase.
                        This is on top of stagnant wages

                        I don't blame the teachers. I blame the fire-men and their useful idiot politicians. I know it's not fare to punish the teachers, but I can't pay any more. A few more increases in taxes and years of stagnant wages and I will have to down size, and I do not live in a McMansion. I have a track house in a working class neighborhood. Maybe leave the county if things get tough. Is that what the politcos want? To break up neighborhoods and force down property values because people can't afford the tax?
                        Last edited by charliebrown; September 01, 2012, 08:13 AM.

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                          Originally posted by don View Post
                          You're being too lucid. Ideology and self-interest will nearly always trump a factual argument.
                          This has gone into my quotes collection.

                          Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                            Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                            I live in the burbs of chicago, and property taxes are really high. About 2.5% of your market value, and given the fire pumped up prices makes paying my property taxes a real burden. Median county home price is roughly 250K, which gives the median tax bill at $6250. Median income is 76K. Loss of a job with a cobra medical payments of 15K will not be sustainable for very long before you have to leave your house, even if you own it!

                            Additionally the way property taxes are calculated, they do not go down if your property values go down.
                            I was happy when my taxes when up only $100 this year. Usually this is $400 - $500 a year increase.
                            This is on top of stagnant wages

                            I don't blame the teachers. I blame the fire-men and their useful idiot politicians. I know it's not fare to punish the teachers, but I can't pay any more. A few more increases in taxes and years of stagnant wages and I will have to down size, and I do not live in a McMansion. I have a track house in a working class neighborhood. Maybe leave the county if things get tough. Is that what the politcos want? To break up neighborhoods and force down property values because people can't afford the tax?
                            your mention of the cost of cobra health insurance is for me the most interesting variable. in any other developed country in the world, it wouldn't be an issue or an extra cost, because you and your family would have health care paid for in some fashion on a national basis. remove that 15k and the issues become more manageable.

                            what the politicians want is secondarily to be elected again, primarily to preserve their role in the politico-financial system, i.e. to go through the revolving door into a lucrative post-electoral-office position. the money that finances their campaigns comes from financial interests which want to extract as much of your income stream as possible.

                            i plugged your numbers into a "how much house can you afford?" calculator . with current interest rates, say 3.625% on a 30 year fixed, and a down payment of $50k [which i chose as about 20% of what you say current home values are], and annual taxes of $6500, [and, i guessed, $2000 for homeowner's insurance], it says the house value "affordable" will be between $280k and $350k.

                            your current home values are of course $30-100k below this. so to reach equilibrium [if mortgage rates, incomes and total taxes in absolute dollars don't change], home prices will tend to rise to that range. this will increase the amount of income going to INTEREST PAYMENTS, i.e. the rentiers, by about $. alternatively you could reach equilibrium by raising taxes to $9k, which drops the "affordable home value" to $237-307k range. i.e. home values wouldn't rise in this model, but taxes will rise by about $2500, to $9k. if you look at the change in mortgage payments without the tax rise, the interest charges will rise by about the same amount.

                            this is hudson's point. you can pay that money in taxes, to fund municipal services. if you choose to keep the tax rate lower, however, the home values will rise so that you end up paying the same amount, but in interest, and you thus will underfund your municipal services. the financial industry extracts rents which would otherwise be taxes paying for actual services.
                            Last edited by jk; September 01, 2012, 01:43 PM.

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                              Originally posted by doom&gloom View Post
                              Frankly I don't think so. Everyone knows raising taxes is never popular, and that people like something for nothing. Pols know promising future bennies they do not have to fund now is a great "gimme" for votes, ....
                              .....
                              Funny how money can be diverted to so many non-essential projects but it always takes a special bond or vote to "pay" for what is essentioal, no?

                              Facile? No, by no means. The pols know EXACTLY what game they are playing. It's called "kick the can", and i'm surprised you don't know it yourself.

                              +1
                              in the words of The Hero of the political class - that asshole, keynes himself: "....in the end, we're all dead...."
                              shur - they are or will be (or retired, if not double-dippin) sooner than most of The Rest Of US and so:
                              "...we can have all kinds of shiny new parks, schools, firetrucks, along with FREE COLLEGE 'educations' - and give our gov workers big fat salaries/raises, on top of the big fat pension promises...."
                              and get re-elected, year after year....

                              they been doing this s__t for decades in most of the bluestates - California's political aristocracy wrote the book on it (and it sounds like Illinois has added their own chapters, with rahm adding his own for CHI):



                              and AGAIN - cue broken record:

                              this is PRECISELY why New Hampshire is The Gold Standard of how the .gov SHOULD be operating - since if you want all that nice stuff, mentioned above, in The Live FREE or Die state?

                              well - its EASY: you gotta raise your hand to RAISE YOUR PROPERTY TAXES TO PAY FOR IT!
                              (since they dont have sales nor income tax/broadbased revenue streams so that their small-enuf-to-drown in a bathtub political-class can't play re-election games with the crony-class and gov unions!)

                              Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                              I live in the burbs of chicago, and property taxes are really high. About 2.5% of your market value, and given the fire pumped up prices makes paying my property taxes a real burden. Median county home price is roughly 250K, which gives the median tax bill at $6250. Median income is 76K. Loss of a job with a cobra medical payments of 15K will not be sustainable for very long before you have to leave your house, even if you own it!

                              Additionally the way property taxes are calculated, they do not go down if your property values go down.
                              I was happy when my taxes when up only $100 this year. Usually this is $400 - $500 a year increase.
                              This is on top of stagnant wages

                              I don't blame the teachers. I blame the fire-men and their useful idiot politicians. I know it's not fare to punish the teachers, but I can't pay any more. A few more increases in taxes and years of stagnant wages and I will have to down size, and I do not live in a McMansion. I have a track house in a working class neighborhood. Maybe leave the county if things get tough. Is that what the politcos want? To break up neighborhoods and force down property values because people can't afford the tax?

                              maybe not, but i'd bet the banksters and their redevelopment planners/cronies would love to tear down those neighborhoods and put up condos - that way they can nail ya for 'condo fees' on top of the political class' bill for all them re-election goodie-giveaways!

                              and i agree about it not being the fault of the teachers, nor the rest of the rank n file gov workers - but their union 'leadership' is certainly part of the problem - and never mind their BIG FAT SALARIES/pensions....
                              Last edited by lektrode; September 01, 2012, 09:59 AM.

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