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  • #16
    Re: The end of Offshoring?

    Originally posted by BadJuju View Post
    I agree that we need less people, but that should not come from abandoning people that are alive now. We need to be proactive on reducing our future population. It is going to be pretty horrific in places like India or China in the next 20-30 years unless even more significant measures are undertaken.

    The communist party is already addressing this. Toxic air, melanine milk, all these are to ensure there will be less people 20 years ahead.

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    • #17
      Re: The end of Offshoring?

      Originally posted by DSpencer View Post
      Right, hopefully nobody took my comment to mean that we should be somehow "getting rid" of existing people.
      Oh, I understand. I think we could do a lot to address this issue. Of course, this mostly occurs in developing countries, so it is hard to say what effect it will have on the world overall. Many of the countries affected by overpopulation are already stressing their environments significantly. There could be a reckoning forthcoming, which is most unfortunate since government policy could have done a lot to offset it.


      Originally posted by dcarrigg View Post
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      To be clear, I was not trying to defame by calling you an "evil Marxist" or something. So far as I'm concerned, it's fair game to to talk about the guy's ideas.
      Not to worry, sir, I understand. I just realize that all of the things we have accomplished with technology have not really led to us working less. We may not have to work for the same things we did before, but we still work quite a lot. And this is going to be an immense problem in the future when robots and AIs are both much more capable of doing the same tasks and are more intelligent than you and I are. Now, this could be offset by merging humans with technology more and more until we are practically cyborgs, but that's just the transhumanist in me talking.

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      • #18
        Re: The end of Offshoring?

        Originally posted by touchring View Post
        The communist party is already addressing this. Toxic air, melanine milk, all these are to ensure there will be less people 20 years ahead.
        I live in one of the most polluted cities in the United States. And even I cannot imagine the sheer horror of living in places like Linfin.

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        • #19
          Re: The end of Offshoring?

          Exactly why business should be out of the business of providing anything but a paycheck to it's employees. Its the capital costs that often lead to the layoffs and outsourcing. The time has come for healthcare to be outside of employment. It might also lead to actual competition for healthcare and reduced costs and increased efficiency.

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          • #20
            Re: The end of Offshoring?

            Originally posted by touchring
            The communist party is already addressing this. Toxic air, melanine milk, all these are to ensure there will be less people 20 years ahead.
            This is really bizarre statement given that melamine and what not are not due to Communism, but rather due to the turn towards capitalism - i.e. the market oriented economy.

            Originally posted by flintlock
            The time has come for healthcare to be outside of employment. It might also lead to actual competition for healthcare and reduced costs and increased efficiency.
            I agree with the former, but mightily disagree with the latter.

            Health care, at least basic health care, should be a utility like water, sewage, garbage disposal.

            Competition for cosmetic stuff is fine, but competition for basic utilities is why we're where we are in health care in the US.

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            • #21
              Re: The end of Offshoring?

              Originally posted by c1ue View Post

              I agree with the former, but mightily disagree with the latter.

              Health care, at least basic health care, should be a utility like water, sewage, garbage disposal.

              Competition for cosmetic stuff is fine, but competition for basic utilities is why we're where we are in health care in the US.
              I can get behind that. It is silly that health care is tied to employment in such a poor employment environment.

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