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    Connectedness runs both ways...

    http://www.sfgate.com/technology/art...le-3770521.php

    There's only so much you can do to protect yourself online. You can practice safe computing, not clicking on bogus links in e-mails or social media; by using strong passwords; by not giving out personal information to strangers.

    You can do all these things and still be a digital victim if the processes and practices of the companies with which you do business are lacking.

    And judging from the terrifying tale of Mat Honan, the security practices of two of the biggest need a lot of work.

    Honan, a writer for Wired, found his digital world turned upside down one day last week. Hackers got into his Gmail, iCloud, Amazon.com and Twitter accounts and wreaked havoc. On Monday, he wrote a lengthy piece on Wired.com describing exactly what had happened to him. You can find it online at tiny url.com/c2ao8ur.

    If you use online services, you should read it carefully - particularly if you're an Apple or Amazon.com customer. It's long, but well worth your time.

    Honan's first paragraph lays out a summary of what happened:

    "In the space of one hour, my entire digital life was destroyed. First my Google account was taken over, then deleted. Next my Twitter account was compromised, and used as a platform to broadcast racist and homophobic messages. And worst of all, my AppleID account was broken into, and my hackers used it to remotely erase all of the data on my iPhone, iPad, and MacBook."

    Amazon changes


    Since his account appeared, Amazon has apparently changed its policies for customer service, no longer allowing people to call in and make changes to their account settings.

    But Honan's experience is a real wake-up call to the possibilities available to hackers. Step by step, here's what happened to him:

    -- The hackers began by going to his personal website, which was linked from his Twitter account. Honan's Gmail address was there, and they used Google's automated password-recovery setup to get a glimpse at his guessable alternative e-mail address, which happened to be an Apple .me account.

    -- Next, they looked up the information on Honan's Web domain, which yielded his billing address.

    -- A hacker then called Amazon and said he wanted to add a credit card number to Honan's account, pretending to be him. Amazon only requires the account holder's name, billing address and an e-mail address associated with an account to make this change.

    And you can generate fake credit card numbers with online tools, which the hackers did. The hackers were then able to call back and add a new e-mail address, because they could accurately give out associated credit card information.

    Once the new e-mail was in place, they requested a password reset, which gave them access to Honan's account details - including the last four digits of Honan's credit card.

    -- Next, they called Apple tech support, where you can bypass security questions to access an account by giving out a customer billing address and the last four digits of an associated credit card. They now had control of Honan's iCloud account, to which his iPhone, iPad and MacBook Pro were linked.

    -- The hackers used Find My iPhone and Find My Mac to wipe his devices.

    -- Once the hackers had control of Honan's iCloud account, they also controlled his .me e-mail address - which was the backup to Gmail. They were then able to enter his Gmail account and send a password reset request to Twitter, which then gave them access to his@mat Twitter feed.

    Quick work


    In a timeline of the episode, Honan estimates the entire enterprise took less than 40 minutes.

    "By wiping my MacBook and deleting my Google account, they now not only had the ability to control my account, but were able to prevent me from regaining access. And crazily, in ways that I don't and never will understand, those deletions were just collateral damage.

    "My MacBook data - including those irreplaceable pictures of my family, of my child's first year and relatives who have now passed from this life - weren't the target. Nor were the eight years of messages in my Gmail account. The target was always Twitter. My MacBook data was torched simply to prevent me from getting back in."
    Clearly, weak processes at Amazon and Apple enabled this disaster, but Honan also lays part of the blame on himself:

    "In many ways, this was all my fault. My accounts were daisy-chained together. Getting into Amazon let my hackers get into my Apple ID account, which helped them get into Gmail, which gave them access to Twitter. Had I used two-factor authentication for my Google account, it's possible that none of this would have happened, because their ultimate goal was always to take over my Twitter account and wreak havoc."

    Safety feature


    Two-factor authentication is a simple but generally effective method of defeating would-be hackers. Essentially, it requires a user to provide two bits of information that only he or she should know to make changes to any accounts.

    Honan's been in touch with Apple and Amazon, and hopefully this episode will cause both companies to tighten their procedures. He's also been in touch with one of the hackers, who provided him with the details about how it was done.

    Again, read the whole thing. It may cause you to make some changes in the way your own digital life is constructed.

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    Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

    Yes, Woz is right, but the media is focusing the public's attention on data security & ownership, instead of the cloud's primary value, which is based in Control Feedback theory (ie. The term "cloud", originating in defense department think tanks, refers to the "observe" and "orient" segment of the OODA feedback-control process).

    Is Woz Right? Will the Cloud Shift be ‘Horrendous’?

    http://www.wired.com/cloudline/2012/08/is-woz-right/

    In a post-performance dialogue following “The Agony and the Ecstasy of Steve Jobs”, co-star Steve Wozniak took to blasting the shift away from hard disks towards uploading data into remote servers, known as cloud computing, reports said. “I really worry about everything going to the cloud,” Wozniak said. “I think it’s going to be horrendous. I think there are going to be a lot of horrible problems in the next five years.”


    Wozniak added: “With the cloud, you don’t own anything. You already signed it away” through the legalistic terms of service with a cloud provider that computer users must agree to. “I want to feel that I own things,” he said. “A lot of people feel, ‘Oh, everything is really on my computer,’ but I say the more we transfer everything onto the web, onto the cloud, the less we’re going to have control over it.”


    As Wired’s Mat Honan found out, after being hacked (see “How Apple and Amazon Security Flaws Led to My Epic Hacking“), it’s not just the cloud per se. But do the cloud and web services need to grow up to gain your trust? Are you worried about loss of your data? Is the end-game inevitably going to be “horrendous”? It sure was for Honan.

    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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    • #3
      Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

      Besides ID theft, I fear either being muscled into paying higher fees or have significant data loss.

      Once all of your files are in the cloud, all your books on your kindle, all your tax returns at turbo tax etc. etc. Just wait for either them to turn the screws with higher and higher prices, or wait for a major data loss, or connectivity loss. Wait for data mining for who knows what purposes. I've worked in I.T. for decades for a dozen companies. Data loss is just a way of life. It always gets second tier priority until a loss strikes. Then there is panic. Then another few years pass and back to complaceny. I would rather be responsible for my own data. Yes backing up your stuff is a pain, and so is managing multiple computers at home with s/w upgrades, h/w failures etc.

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      • #4
        Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

        He is in touch with one of the hackers?

        Thats bizarre..........

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        • #5
          Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

          I've been upgrading Adobe for decades and the push to go cloud was loud and clear. My studio Mac 5 has never been online (like a virgin . . .) and to activate my disk CS6 upgrade, I had to enter a string of alpha-numerics from here to Silicon Valley. The 'password' code was just as long and convoluted. In the end (of my patience) I did escape . . . until the next 'release'.

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          • #6
            Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

            Originally posted by ProdigyofZen View Post
            He is in touch with one of the hackers?

            Thats bizarre..........
            not really, I bet the hacker wanted to gloat to him and the more he responded, the more the hacker ate it up for the attention.

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            • #7
              Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

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              Last edited by nedtheguy; October 09, 2014, 04:17 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

                A lot of time what happens in a backup world is that the produductin environment changes but the backup doesn't. new mainline servers come up, new applications, new data, new disks added etc. and the backup procedure is not upgraded and/or tested, or the change in the environment causes the regularly occuring backup to silently fail, until of course you need the files. I would recommend that anyone backing up their stuff actually try restoring a few files in random locations every once in a while. When I worked at my former company, I would call the backup department once a quarter and actually have them try and restore something. Guess what about once every few they couldn't do it.

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                • #9
                  Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

                  The Kindle (a play-on words meaning "kindling", as in kindling necessary to start a book burning) already tracks books in user inventory, amount of time on each page, number of times a page has been read, then correlates this wth the keywords on that page. When "your" data is on the cloud, you can expect the same. A couple years ago I attended an IBM presentation releasing the results of keypad press patterns in a mobil environment... the deep understanding of user behavior garnered from that study was astounding. What happens when camera eye tracking is ubiquitious and eye location is incorporated into these data sets (this has actually already started)
                  The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                  • #10
                    Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

                    this is sad...

                    I have one of these, but still prfer good ol' paper books. Maybe my sub-conscious is telling me something.

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                    • #11
                      Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

                      I bought one because of the physical space issue and because it allows for me to get tons of free books that I would either have to pay for or farm out of the library.

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                      • #12
                        Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

                        Originally posted by reggie
                        The Kindle (a play-on words meaning "kindling", as in kindling necessary to start a book burning) already tracks books in user inventory, amount of time on each page, number of times a page has been read, then correlates this wth the keywords on that page.
                        I'm not sure if I posted on that, but the outcome is clear: authors are more and more using this to 'home in' on what their readers actually care about.

                        The era of invention in writing is being replaced by the era of product marketing.

                        Originally posted by reggie
                        When "your" data is on the cloud, you can expect the same.
                        The first use will be keyword marketing. The second use will be government surveillance. Or is that the wrong way around?

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                        • #13
                          Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

                          Originally posted by BadJuju View Post
                          I bought one because of the physical space issue and because it allows for me to get tons of free books that I would either have to pay for or farm out of the library.
                          You're paying for those books one way or another. Let me assure you, that they are NOT free -- the consideration is either fiat coin, or input into a larger Cybernetic system where you are merely one node of many. So, your choice, play in the exiting financial oligopoly, or within the new developing social-econonic oligoply (ie. See Yochai Benkler). http://www.ted.com/talks/yochai_benk...economics.html Or, play in neither.
                          The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                          • #14
                            Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

                            Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                            The first use will be keyword marketing. The second use will be government surveillance. Or is that the wrong way around?
                            Gov't don't really exist anymore, other than as fronts. But more to your point, the concept of "surveillance" is also outdated. This is about Network Control Theory (feedback-control systems) and Mechanization of Human Objects who serve as nodes within these network operations. Control is very subtle to say the least. Let me try and carve-out a really rough example that doesn't do justice to the science, but at least starts to orient the reader... Let's say 1M people read Book X, and that a significant percentage of readers of Book X begin to exibit a specific behavior that can be attributed, via sophisticate network analysis of online actions, to various passages within Book X. These passages can then be "modified" on new AND existing editions of Book X and behaviors once again measured. This process can continue infinitely until "desired" behaviors are reached. It does not take governments to implement such feedback-controls, but a coalition of private enterprise that have the processing acumen, power and network ownership to achieve said goals.
                            The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge ~D Boorstin

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                            • #15
                              Re: More fun with Cloud: all your devices are us

                              Originally posted by doom&gloom View Post
                              this is sad...

                              I have one of these, but still prfer good ol' paper books. Maybe my sub-conscious is telling me something.
                              I have the Kindle app but almost never use it. I still usually find it cheaper and more gratifying to buy used books on Amazon.com. Some of it depends on what you read I suppose. I'm into obscure history stuff, most of which is not available on Kindle anyway.

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