mayans off by a year? Here Comes the Sunstorm

[leegs]

Re: mayans off by a year? Here Comes the Sunstorm

Lektrode, I want to say thanks for your helpful writeup of a backup approach. What do you do for batteries? And have you worn any out yet? How long?

[GRG55]

Re: mayans off by a year? Here Comes the Sunstorm

If the Earth is going to experience the peak of a sunstorm in 2013, then the Earth will receive the peak of a cycle of above normal solar radiation then. That would mean that most areas of the Earth would experience above normal mean temperatures until the solar storm is over.

The climate-frauds at the EPA will go onto their CO2 global-warming crusade again, but the real cause of the temporary warming will be this cyclical and temporary solar storm next year.

Wow. This looks like its shaping up to be the best scam marketing opportunity since Y2K...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-21-nears.html

Mayan apocalypse: panic spreads as December 21 nears

[BadJuju]

Re: mayans off by a year? Here Comes the Sunstorm

Yeah, a few of my co-workers buy into that junk.

[don]

Re: mayans off by a year? Here Comes the Sunstorm

Wow. This looks like its shaping up to be the best scam marketing opportunity since Y2K...

Scams are all relative. The Y2K scam seems quaint, almost nostalgic, compared to the on going wholesale fleecing.

[GRG55]

Re: mayans off by a year? Here Comes the Sunstorm

Scams are all relative. The Y2K scam seems quaint, almost nostalgic, compared to the on going wholesale fleecing.

Only because it was a small beans sideshow to the internet/tech/telecom stock bubble fleecing that was going on at the same time.

The Mayan calendar thing seems to have some parallels...it seems a subset sideshow to the ongoing "we must save the global banking system or the world as we know it will end" fleecing...

[lektrode]

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meanwhile, the beltway bozos - after giving away the treasury over the past 6years - to 'save the economy', while punting on an actual BUDGET (with continuing resolution BS) - are calling THIS a solution????

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/06/politi...iff/index.html

Obama's broader deficit reduction plan calls for deficit reduction of about $500 billion over 10 years by limiting itemized tax deductions and other benefits for high-income earners.

let me get this straight - they're currently blowing a trillion+ more PER YEAR than whats coming in and a 'savings'
of 500bil OVER 10 YEARS is going to somehow fix things?

talk about the politics of DENIAL.

as IF the credit/bond markets will wait another 10years?

this is the real sideshow - and at the rates things (arent) going, a solar flare/storm will be the least of our worries.

[lektrode]

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yo, mr leeqs - didnt mean to ignore this one - for whatever reason didnt see it til today

Lektrode, I want to say thanks for your helpful writeup of a backup approach. What do you do for batteries? And have you worn any out yet? How long?

you're quite welcome sir!, i appreciate whatever positive feedback i get around here - any chance i can offer my somewhat limited knowledge/skillset to this group is a good day for me.

IMHO - the best way to go for batteries used as backup in particular, but on PV/alternative/offgrid/marine systems is
AGM type: Absorbed Glass Mat - their price vs conventional lead-acid batteries is fairly painful - but once past the jolt of writing the check for them, they really are the way to go - for several reasons:
1 - dont need to screw around with adding/checking water, buying/keeping distilled water around etc
2 - since theyre sealed, they also dont outgas when charging, no flammable gases, no acid holes in your clothes from spatters while checking/filling water levels
3 - they dont self discharge like conv batts do, will hold upwards of 90% of their charge for a year or more
4 - when recharging, a conv batt typically requires a 135% recharge to get them full, where the AGM need only 115%
so this means less PV, less generator run-time etc
5 - they can also be installed in any position/angle, even upside down and still be ok - basically install em and fergit about em, just keep em charged/recharged on a regular basis - why they are particularly good for PV apps

and i routinely see them go 5,6,7+ years - have one of 6 that i put on a boat in 2000, replaced them all in 2004, kept 2 of the best of that lot, continued using them daily for another 2years and still can get appx 50% of its rated capacity out of it, on the 20hour discharge rate (12 years later, tho 1 of thart pair finally crapped out about a year ago) - the important & critical aspect of AGM's tho, is that they are NOT overcharged (temperature dependent charge voltage) and that they get recharged/filled on a regular, if not daily basis and that the discharge level not be taken down more than 15-25%, with a daily or several times/week full recharge - in other words, the less you take em down and the more regularly they get refilled, the longer they last = the greater number of 'cycles' you get from em

but of course we're still waiting on something better, with the lithium tech showing the most promise and its also perty tough to beat the best of the ole standby's, like Surrettes (conv lead acid, but the caddy of batteries)

[GRG55]

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Yeah, a few of my co-workers buy into that junk.

These days. in some quarters, it's considered entirely appropriate to make fun of people that "still" believe in God...but look at the sort of things people have "faith" in now. Bloody amazing...

[jpetr48]

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What is even more amazing is that the people who are making fun of God according to this Gallup poll is only 8 percent. Btw, it clear whoever posted this does not believe in God. Because only God knows the end of times. This forum is for economics but if someone sincerely want to line up truth ( reality ) with what the bible says, Pm me and I will send you references. Joe
http://www.salon.com/2011/06/06/amer...in_god_gallup/

Results of a Gallup poll released over the weekend reveal that more than nine in 10 Americans believe in God. Ninety-two percent of Gallup’s 1,018 respondents (hailing from all 50 states) answered “yes” when asked whether they believed in God.


The pollsters noted:


Despite the many changes that have rippled through American society over the last 6 ½ decades, belief in God as measured in this direct way has remained high and relatively stable. Gallup initially used this question wording in November 1944, when 96% said “yes.” That percentage dropped to 94% in 1947, but increased to 98% in several Gallup surveys conducted in the 1950s and 1960s.


In recent decades, the pollsters have expanded the survey to also ask the question, “Do you believe in God or a universal spirit?” Given the option of a universal spirit over God — presumably understood as a Judeo-Christian, creator carer, possibly bearded and robed type figure — a number of Americans opted for the former (80 percent said they believed in God, 12 percent said they believed in a universal spirit). The survey did not probe into specific religious allegiances.