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    My Faith-Based Retirement
    By JOE NOCERA
    Published: April 27, 2012

    My 60th birthday is less than a week and a half away, and if there is one thing I can say with certainty it’s that 60 is not the new 50.

    My body creaks and groans. My eyes aren’t what they used to be. I don’t sleep as soundly as I did just a few years ago. Lately, I’ve been seeing a lot of doctors, just to make sure everything still more or less works.

    I’ve also found myself with a sudden urge to get my house in order — just, you know, in case. Insurance, wills, that sort of thing. Sixty is when you stop pretending you’re going to live forever. You’re officially old. Or at least old-ish.

    The only thing I haven’t dealt with on my to-do checklist is retirement planning. The reason is simple: I’m not planning to retire. More accurately, I can’t retire. My 401(k) plan, which was supposed to take care of my retirement, is in tatters.

    Like millions of other aging baby boomers, I first began putting money into a tax-deferred retirement account a few years after they were legislated into existence in the late 1970s. The great bull market, which began in 1982, was just gearing up. As a young journalist, I couldn’t afford to invest a lot of money, but my account grew as the market rose, and the bull market gave me an inflated sense of my investing skills.

    I became such an enthusiast of the new investing culture that I wrote my first book, in the mid-1990s, about what I called “the democratization of money.” It was only right, I argued, that the little guy have the same access to the markets as the wealthy. In the book, I didn’t make much of the decline of pensions. After all, we were in the middle of the tech bubble by then. What fun!

    The bull market ended with the bursting of that bubble in 2000. My tech-laden portfolio was cut in half. A half-dozen years later, I got divorced, cutting my 401(k) in half again. A few years after that, I bought a house that needed some costly renovations. Since my retirement account was now hopelessly inadequate for actual retirement, I reasoned that I might as well get some use out of the money while I could. So I threw another chunk of my 401(k) at the renovation. That’s where I stand today.

    When I related my tale recently to Teresa Ghilarducci, a behavioral economist at The New School who studies retirement and investor behavior, she let out the kind of sigh that made it clear that she had heard it all before. The sad truth, she told me, is that I’m the rule, not the exception. “People have income shock, like divorce or loss of a job or a health crisis,” and those crises tend to drain retirement accounts, she said.

    But even putting income shocks aside, she said, most human beings lack the skill and emotional wherewithal to be good investors. Linking investing and retirement has turned out to be a recipe for disaster.

    “People tend to be overconfident about their own abilities,” said Ghilarducci. “They tend to focus on the short term rather than thinking about long-term consequences. And they tend to think that whatever the current trend is will always be the trend. That is why people buy high and sell low.” Financial advisers — at least the good ones — are forever telling their clients to be disciplined, to create a diversified portfolio and to avoid trying to time the market. Sound as that advice is, it’s just not how most humans behave.

    That data starkly backs up Ghilarducci’s contention. According to the Employee Benefit Research Institute, for instance, only 22 percent of workers 55 or older have more than $250,000 put away for retirement. Stunningly, 60 percent of workers in that same age bracket have less than $100,000 in a retirement account. Ghilarducci told me that the average savings for someone near retirement in America right now is $100,000. Even buttressed by Social Security, that’s not going to last very long.

    What, then, will people do when they retire? I asked Ghilarducci. “Their retirement plan is faith based,” she replied. “They have faith that it will somehow work out.”

    I laughed, but it’s not funny. “The 401(k),” she concluded, “is a failed experiment. It is time to rethink it.”

    In truth, I’m one of the lucky ones. I do work that I love, which requires no heavy lifting and has no mandatory retirement age. If I become incapacitated, I will have assisted-living insurance. Otherwise, I can keep writing till I drop.

    But, for the millions of others who have discovered, as I have, that their original enthusiasm for investing was unwarranted, their faith-based retirement plan is all they’ve got left.

    The comments are interesting:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/28/op...etirement.html

  • #2
    Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

    Hussman spoke to recent employment gains more as desperation for those near retirement.
    frankly, I am not sure retirement is advisable regardless of age as one ought to strive to be a productive member of society
    as long as they can. Here is a hussman article

    http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc120409.htm

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    • #3
      Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

      Originally posted by aaron View Post
      The comments are interesting:
      Indeed. Some of the comments are very eloquent.

      “Society has a strong interest in seeing its elderly secure in old age.”

      Would most Americans readily agree?

      (“Let him die” comment comes to mind.)

      Hussman's notes are also a good read.

      “However, if we look at workers 55 years of age and over, we find that employment in that group has increased by 3.04 million jobs. In contrast, employment among workers under age 55 has actually contracted by nearly one million jobs, regardless of which survey you use.”

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      • #4
        Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

        i find it interesting that nocera, big time financial journalist at a big time newspaper had not a clue about the bubbles and how to protect himself. and he's the guy people are reading! this is similar to bernanke et al, who also appeared to have no clue about what they were fomenting, still manipulating the levers of power. when will people who DID read the writing on the wall get some respect and a platform for a wider audience? never. too dangerous.

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        • #5
          Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

          There were only a few individuals within the very insulated world of the NYC financial / media bubble that really did know and understand what was coming. However, they probably:

          (i) couldn't have convinced most of the others inside the NYC bubble of what was coming ("it is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it") - at least within the investment banking world, you're generally not dealing with independent or particularly deep thinkers

          (ii) didn't really appreciate the magnitude of the housing bubble until 2005/6, by which time it was too late to defuse the bubble anyway

          (iii) realized that they could profit handsomely from the opportunity, and didn't want to spoil their trade by making too much noise about it

          Otherwise, most of those within the NYC bubble had so little opportunity to interact with those on the outside that it was very unlikely that they would even come across ideas such as those presented on this site. Even if they did, somehow they'd have to weigh those difficult ideas against the groupthink among all of their colleagues and those with whom they interact on a regular basis... much easier to just believe what everyone else around you seems to believe.

          If New York was a bubble, Washington might as well have been a different planet.

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          • #6
            Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

            Originally posted by mmr
            (i) couldn't have convinced most of the others inside the NYC bubble of what was coming ("it is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it") - at least within the investment banking world, you're generally not dealing with independent or particularly deep thinkers

            (ii) didn't really appreciate the magnitude of the housing bubble until 2005/6, by which time it was too late to defuse the bubble anyway

            (iii) realized that they could profit handsomely from the opportunity, and didn't want to spoil their trade by making too much noise about it
            I'd add

            (iv) Didn't want to endanger their livelihoods by rocking the boat. After all, a good journalist these days is one that stays bought.

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            • #7
              Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

              This is a very scary piece, because it includes the lady (Ghilarducii) that wants to steal your 401k money. Are they prepping us for the big asset grab? Read this piece . http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/...man-in-america

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              • #8
                Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

                Yes this is the answer to retiree low returns , have the government manage your money. On the surface, this seems like a reasonable approach to many retirees who are desperate. However, we all know what the next step is. What I can't believe is the Democrats believe that after the past 20 years, the public would trust them with their money. That is the story within this story.

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                • #9
                  Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

                  Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                  This is a very scary piece, because it includes the lady (Ghilarducii) that wants to steal your 401k money. Are they prepping us for the big asset grab? Read this piece . http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/...man-in-america

                  For the last several years I've accepted the reality of Wall Street grabbing our pension money. It's the only big pile of money they don't yet control. I believe this is at the heart of the move to privatize social security, to divert that river of money to Wall street so the TBTF banks can game it to their advantage.

                  It's Wall street's wet dream to have the force of law divert 8% of all paychecks to them to hold and manage for the long, long term. It's the world's biggest Ponzi opportunity. They can show a dribble good early returns for the early payouts like any Ponzi, then plunder the rest and be long gone before a generation of impoverished retirees figures out they've been robbed.

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                  • #10
                    Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

                    Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                    This is a very scary piece, because it includes the lady (Ghilarducii) that wants to steal your 401k money. Are they prepping us for the big asset grab? Read this piece . http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/...man-in-america
                    I didn't get the impression that Ghilarducci's plan is one that is going to plunder existing 401K money. In fact, I suspect that her plan is likely to be of greater benefit to most Americans than the 401K system. In a sense, her plan is what the retirement portion of Social Security should be: a forced retirement plan where workers contribute money for their own accounts rather than for a pool of money that funds a previous generation's benefits.

                    That said, I do wonder how qualified Ghilarducci is to be designing a retirement vehicle intended to replace 401Ks. She speaks of the wealthy contributing $20,000 per year to their 401Ks when the current maximum is $16,500. It doesn't sound like she knows what she's talking about.

                    Further, she speaks of this new plan being able to access wealth managers that 401Ks cannot. I presume these to be hedge funds, private equity funds, and venture capital funds. This, in my opinion, again calls into question her suitability to design a replacement retirement plan. With a massive inflow of cash from every working American, these wealth managers will find it extremely difficult to outperform, assuming they are even capable of outperforming today with much smaller assets under management. The difficulty of big numbers aside, I wonder if Ghilarducci realizes that most managers of money, not just the ones in the 401K industry, are lousy.

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                    • #11
                      Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

                      I have read that one of Gilarducci's plans is to replace your 401k assets with some kind of universal gvt pension or annuity vehicle that would guarantee a fixed payout at retirement. Trouble is yet another asset like SS or Medicare backed with gvt guarantee's that are not sustainable. The intial promise will be 5-8% guaranteed y-o-y growth, but when payout time comes the cupboard will be bare. Also, I figure the benefits would be tied to some phoney-baloney CPI numbers.

                      Will a traditional IRA be immune to this seizure, what about a roth IRA? If you have a convertable 401k, I would move it to a traditional IRA. It might be one level
                      removed from 401k "restucturing"

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                      • #12
                        Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

                        Originally posted by Joe Nocera
                        Since my retirement account was now hopelessly inadequate for actual retirement, I reasoned that I might as well get some use out of the money while I could.
                        He "reasoned" that since his retirement account was inadequate, he should blow the rest of it? I don't think this journalist understands the definition of reasoning.

                        Of course there are millions of people ready to jump on the bandwagon and come up with the same answer that the government should just fix all our problems. Never mind that the whole 401(k) concept is just another creation of the government's insane tax code.

                        Also, if inflation was not a constant force eroding everyone's savings, it might be feasible to simply save up cash in the bank (or mattress) and not have to worry about being an investor in addition to your day job.

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                        • #13
                          Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

                          Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                          Will a traditional IRA be immune to this seizure, what about a roth IRA?
                          I wonder the same thing.

                          Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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                          • #14
                            Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

                            Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                            I have read that one of Gilarducci's plans is to replace your 401k assets with some kind of universal gvt pension or annuity vehicle that would guarantee a fixed payout at retirement.
                            OK. The only material on Ghilarducci's plan that I have exposure to is the link you provided, which has a recording of an interview with her. In that interview, she clearly states that existing 401Ks would be grandfathered which I assume means that 401Ks keep their preferred taxation rules as well as the assets in them. Of course, she could be lying or the plan may change. However, my understanding at the moment is that existing 401Ks would be left alone.

                            Originally posted by charliebrown View Post
                            Trouble is yet another asset like SS or Medicare backed with gvt guarantee's that are not sustainable. The intial promise will be 5-8% guaranteed y-o-y growth, but when payout time comes the cupboard will be bare. Also, I figure the benefits would be tied to some phoney-baloney CPI numbers.
                            It's just my opinion but I don't believe it would be as bad as Social Security or Medicare because your contributions are earmarked for yourself; you don't have to rely on a subsequent generation whose contributions are unknown. Ghilarducci's proposed plan offers at least a 6% per annum return or 3% over CPI, whichever is higher. Even if the gains end up being 3% per annum, which I don't believe is that hard to achieve, that's still better than Social Security where I think it's very likely I'll lose 100% of the real principal.

                            I wish I could find the source but I remember reading somewhere that the compounded annual return for Social Security contributions for a higher wage earner is 1%. That's positively awful. Barring incredible fraud, I can't imagine Ghilarducci's plan not being able to beat 1% CAGR.

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                            • #15
                              Re: My Faith-Based Retirement

                              I will do some digging in the near future to see if I can find the replace your 401k with an annuity plan.

                              If the plan is to have a 6% return, what if the stock market tanks or, moves sideways for another decade. If you read John Hussman, his models are suggesting a 4% return on stocks over the next decade. Since bonds have a vanishing coupon, unless you get price apprectiation, you are looking at a 2% return. So how is anyone going to promise a 6% return?

                              This sounds like another bait and switch program, to calm the masses, and the gvt getting it nose in even more stuff. I'm not a big fan of 401k, it needs to be revamped. Why does a SEP-IRA participant get to save more than a 401K. Why do i have less than stellar choices? Why if my employer does not offer a 401k
                              I can only save 5K in a traditional IRA? I think the whole thing should be replaced by a SEP-IRA, where everyone would be eligible to save 20% of their earnings
                              in an account that has no constraints. I can buy stock, and bond index funds, and gold in whatever allocation I want. It is completely portable etc.

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