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    Is Romney serious or just talking? If serious, what does this mean:

    http://economyincrisis.org/content/m...ace-free-trade

    Mitt Romney’s Plan to Replace Free Trade

    January 18, 2012 Ian Fletcher 1 Comment

    As I’ve noted before, Mitt Romney has given some indications that he may be serious about doing something about America’s trade mess. He’s made tough statements about dealing with China which, if sincere, would not only put him beyond the other major Republican candidates on trade, but also far beyond what the Obama administration is doing.

    I’ve been watching Romney ever since for signs of whether he’s sincere or not, and he just added a few more data points to the picture.

    Here’s what he’s just said in an op-ed in the Washington Post, one that has the fingerprints of known China hawk Glenn Hubbard, a Romney advisor, all over it:

    Free trade has the demonstrated ability to make the people of both trading nations more prosperous.

    That’s boilerplate. But then things get interesting:

    But for free enterprise and free trade to work their magic, laws and rules that guide the participants are essential to prevent distortions and abuses…
    Actually doing something about China’s cheating makes some people nervous. Not doing something makes me nervous. We are warned that we might precipitate a trade war. Really? China is selling us $273 billion per year more than America is selling China — why would it possibly want a trade war?…

    I’m glad I’m not the only person who’s about as afraid of starting a trade war as Ronald Reagan was of starting WWIII by proposing Star Wars.

    If I am fortunate enough to be elected president, I will work to fundamentally alter our economic relationship with China. As I describe in my economic plan, I will begin on Day One by designating China as the currency manipulator it is.

    Aha! I wrote previously about how currency manipulation is heating up as an issue and what difference it could make. Romney continues, and this is the real nub:

    More important, I will take a holistic approach to addressing all of China’s abuses. That includes unilateral actions such as increased enforcement of U.S. trade laws, punitive measures targeting products and industries that rely on misappropriations of our intellectual property, reciprocity in government procurement, and countervailing duties against currency manipulation. It also includes multilateral actions to block technology transfers into China and to create a trading bloc open only for nations genuinely committed to free trade.

    What Romney is basically doing, is giving China one last chance to behave, and if speaking softly doesn’t work, he’s threatening a variety of big sticks.

    The interesting thing is that he’s dressing it all up as an heroic attempt to save free trade—by, if necessary, resorting to such blatantly, indisputably, protectionist measures as “countervailing duties.” (I’m not being dogmatic here. The Cato Institute, the Wall Street Journal, and the other usual suspects agree with me about this definition, and, incidentally, they all hate Romney—which should tell us something.)

    And Romney is threatening to set up an “authentic free traders club” of nations and keep China out of it. This is tough stuff, with multi-hundred-billion-dollar consequences.
    It’s also a brilliant stroke of rhetoric, given that there just isn’t the time to explain to Republican voters that free trade really doesn’t work and is a mistaken ideal, period. (Romney probably on some level believes in it, anyway.) But it’s really a formula for defending not free trade, but managed trade at a zero tariff, which is not the same thing at all.

    This is, in fact, quite possibly a Republican candidate spelling out the end of free trade.

    “Free” trade, which is what America (though few other nations) practices now, means opening our borders (with trivial exceptions) and letting the chips fall where they may. It’s the international application of the old laissez faire economic ideology of the robber-baron era. It assumes that if foreign nations aren’t wise enough to reciprocate by opening their markets to us, we shouldn’t care. We should live free whether anyone else does or not.

    Managed trade at a zero tariff is another thing entirely. This position basically says that free trade is a wonderful system, with all these economic benefits, but it’s only good for us if other nations reciprocate. It’s not laissez faire at all, because there are rules. It’s a vision of capitalism as game where we need to take our marbles and go home if the other side won’t play fair.

    “Fair” trade has traditionally been a left-wing concept in this country, centered on things like environmental and labor standards. Here we have the right-wing version. (Frankly, I’d prefer a non-ethical concept like reciprocity when dealing with foreigners who don’t and won’t share our values, but the implication is the same.)

    Free trade only with nations that reciprocate was, broadly speaking, what we had during the Cold War. Of course, we cut a certain amount of slack to foreign nations we wished to rebuild economically to prevent them from going communist—a loophole Japan got very greedy about exploiting long after its sell-by date—but broadly speaking, Western Europe and the rest of the developed world toed the line. Other nations were either non-industrialized and thus not a competitive threat to us, or they were outside our trade bloc because they were communist (China, Eastern Europe, the Soviet Union) or socialist (India). It’s no accident that for most of this era, we ran trade deficits that were either zero or tiny by contemporary standards.

    What I hope Romney understands is that, if elected, his bluff probably will get called. Probably not by the velvet-gloved mercantilists in Tokyo and Berlin, who will coolly assess his seriousness and fold their cards if convinced of it, but by Beijing. I could be wrong, but I have the impression that their dependence on their trade surplus with the U.S., plus their rising sense of their own power, will push them towards a confrontation rather than a negotiated settlement.

    At the very least, there is the paradox that in order to avoid a conflict, the next president (whoever he or she is) must be willing to risk one. America will therefore need credible and well-worked-out contingency plans to impose a tariff on China and function, if need be, as a tariff-protected economy for a few years at least.
    Teddy Roosevelt’s America was, of course, a tariff-protected economy. So maybe the whole “speak softly and carry a big stick” thing will work after all.

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    Re: Romney on China... is he serious?

    I doubt he's serious.

    Bush Jr talked a good line too, but he never did one iota to implement anything resembling a "conservative" platform. What happened? I'm not sure, but I am convinced of one thing. We don't have elections anymore, certainly not at the primary level.

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    • #3
      Re: Romney on China... is he serious?

      disagree. china's entire economic situation and history is predicated upon the free trade facilitated by benevolent US control of the sea and air lanes, willingness to allow china to blatantly steal western intellectual property and fund its growth with selling goods made with stolen technology and basically slave labor rates back to the west using cheap transportation made possible only by the dominance of the US military.

      that's why talk of US 'debt' held by china is a joke. $3t in US debt is around $35,000 per US taxpayer. we should never plan on paying any of that back, and the proper mission of our government is to ensure that we maintain military and economic veto power on china's trade options. we should not even be paying interest on that debt.

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      • #4
        Re: Romney on China... is he serious?

        I doubt he's serious as well.... then again things are changing. While western corporations and banks can make use of China, at the end of the day they are still Chinese not Western. Unless the U.S. is controlled by China, at some point our corporate masters are going to have to address this, even if it's only for their own interests (as opposed to the common man)? Am I missing something.

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        • #5
          Re: Romney on China... is he serious?

          Originally posted by cbr View Post
          disagree. china's entire economic situation and history is predicated upon the free trade facilitated by benevolent US control of the sea and air lanes, willingness to allow china to blatantly steal western intellectual property and fund its growth with selling goods made with stolen technology and basically slave labor rates back to the west using cheap transportation made possible only by the dominance of the US military.

          that's why talk of US 'debt' held by china is a joke. $3t in US debt is around $35,000 per US taxpayer. we should never plan on paying any of that back, and the proper mission of our government is to ensure that we maintain military and economic veto power on china's trade options. we should not even be paying interest on that debt.
          +1
          but are we really paying any interest on it? (with the discount rate at what, .0025 and the 10yr rate at 1.8, never mind the long bond bouncing off 3.0?)

          but i am glad to hear that _somebody_ at least has the balls to talk about this issue, as there's not much time before We The People are basically indentured slaves to the banksters, or as ole tom jefferson so eloquently and presciently put it so long ago:

          If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks…will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered…. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.Thomas Jefferson in the debate over the Re-charter of the Bank Bill (1809)

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          • #6
            Re: Romney on China... is he serious?

            That quote has been making the rounds lately. I looked it up and supposedly it is a fake (I mean, Jefferson may not have written it). Of course, that doesn't mean it isn't right.

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