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    A Christmas Message From America's Rich

    December 22, 9:05 AM ET

    It seems America’s bankers are tired of all the abuse. They’ve decided to speak out.

    True, they’re doing it from behind the ropeline, in front of friendly crowds at industry conferences and country clubs, meaning they don’t have to look the rest of America in the eye when they call us all imbeciles and complain that they shouldn’t have to apologize for being so successful.

    But while they haven’t yet deigned to talk to protesting America face to face, they are willing to scribble out some complaints on notes and send them downstairs on silver trays. Courtesy of a remarkable story by Max Abelson at Bloomberg, we now get to hear some of those choice comments.

    Home Depot co-founder Bernard Marcus, for instance, is not worried about OWS:
    “Who gives a crap about some imbecile?” Marcus said. “Are you kidding me?”
    Former New York gurbernatorial candidate Tom Golisano, the billionaire owner of the billing firm Paychex, offered his wisdom while his half-his-age tennis champion girlfriend hung on his arm:
    “If I hear a politician use the term ‘paying your fair share’ one more time, I’m going to vomit,” said Golisano, who turned 70 last month, celebrating the birthday with girlfriend Monica Seles, the former tennis star who won nine Grand Slam singles titles.
    Then there’s Leon Cooperman, the former chief of Goldman Sachs’s money-management unit, who said he was urged to speak out by his fellow golfers. His message was a version of Wall Street’s increasingly popular If-you-people-want-a-job, then-you’ll-shut-the-fuck-up rhetorical line:
    Cooperman, 68, said in an interview that he can’t walk through the dining room of St. Andrews Country Club in Boca Raton, Florida, without being thanked for speaking up. At least four people expressed their gratitude on Dec. 5 while he was eating an egg-white omelet, he said.
    “You’ll get more out of me,” the billionaire said, “if you treat me with respect.”
    Finally, there is this from Blackstone CEO Steven Schwartzman:
    Asked if he were willing to pay more taxes in a Nov. 30 interview with Bloomberg Television, Blackstone Group LP CEO Stephen Schwarzman spoke about lower-income U.S. families who pay no income tax.
    “You have to have skin in the game,” said Schwarzman, 64. “I’m not saying how much people should do. But we should all be part of the system.”
    There are obviously a great many things that one could say about this remarkable collection of quotes. One could even, if one wanted, simply savor them alone, without commentary, like lumps of fresh caviar, or raw oysters.

    But out of Abelson’s collection of doleful woe-is-us complaints from the offended rich, the one that deserves the most attention is Schwarzman’s line about lower-income folks lacking “skin in the game.” This incredible statement gets right to the heart of why these people suck.

    Why? It's not because Schwarzman is factually wrong about lower-income people having no “skin in the game,” ignoring the fact that everyone pays sales taxes, and most everyone pays payroll taxes, and of course there are property taxes for even the lowliest subprime mortgage holders, and so on.

    It’s not even because Schwarzman probably himself pays close to zero in income tax – as a private equity chief, he doesn’t pay income tax but tax on carried interest, which carries a maximum 15% tax rate, half the rate of a New York City firefighter.

    The real issue has to do with the context of Schwarzman’s quote. The Blackstone billionaire, remember, is one of the more uniquely abhorrent, self-congratulating jerks in the entire world – a man who famously symbolized the excesses of the crisis era when, just as the rest of America was heading into a recession, he threw himself a $5 million birthday party, featuring private performances by Rod Stewart and Patti Labelle, to celebrate an IPO that made him $677 million in a matter of days (within a year, incidentally, the investors who bought that stock would lose three-fourths of their investments).

    So that IPO birthday boy is now standing up and insisting, with a straight face, that America’s problem is that compared to taxpaying billionaires like himself, poor people are not invested enoughin our society’s future. Apparently, we’d all be in much better shape if the poor were as motivated as Steven Schwarzman is to make America a better place.

    But it seems to me that if you’re broke enough that you’re not paying any income tax, you’ve got nothing butskin in the game. You've got it all riding on how well America works.

    You can’t afford private security: you need to depend on the police. You can’t afford private health care: Medicare is all you have. You get arrested, you’re not hiring Davis, Polk to get you out of jail: you rely on a public defender to negotiate a court system you'd better pray deals with everyone from the same deck. And you can’t hire landscapers to manicure your lawn and trim your trees: you need the garbage man to come on time and you need the city to patch the potholes in your street.

    And in the bigger picture, of course, you need the state and the private sector both to be functioning well enough to provide you with regular work, and a safe place to raise your children, and clean water and clean air.

    The entire ethos of modern Wall Street, on the other hand, is complete indifference to all of these matters. The very rich on today’s Wall Street are now so rich that they buy their own social infrastructure. They hire private security, they live on gated mansions on islands and other tax havens, and most notably, they buy their own justice and their own government.

    An ordinary person who has a problem that needs fixing puts a letter in the mail to his congressman and sends it to stand in a line in some DC mailroom with thousands of others, waiting for a response.

    But citizens of the stateless archipelago where people like Schwarzman live spend millions a year lobbying and donating to political campaigns so that they can jump the line. They don’t need to make sure the government is fulfilling its customer-service obligations, because they buy special access to the government, and get the special service and the metaphorical comped bottle of VIP-room Cristal afforded to select customers.

    Want to lower the capital reserve requirements for investment banks? Then-Goldman CEO Hank Paulson takes a meeting with SEC chief Bill Donaldson, and gets it done. Want to kill an attempt to erase the carried interest tax break? Guys like Schwarzman, and Apollo’s Leon Black, and Carlyle’s David Rubenstein, they just show up in Washington at Max Baucus’s doorstep, and they get it killed.

    Some of these people take that VIP-room idea a step further. J.P. Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon – the man the New York Times once called “Obama’s favorite banker” – had an excellent method of guaranteeing that the Federal Reserve system’s doors would always be open to him. What he did was, he served as the Chairman of the Board of the New York Fed.

    And in 2008, in that moonlighting capacity, he orchestrated a deal in which the Fed provided $29 billion in assistance to help his own bank, Chase, buy up the teetering investment firm Bear Stearns. You read that right: Jamie Dimon helped give himself a bailout. Who needs to worry about good government, when you are the government?

    Dimon, incidentally, is another one of those bankers who’s complaining now about the unfair criticism. “Acting like everyone who’s been successful is bad and because you’re rich you’re bad, I don’t understand it,” he recently said, at an investor’s conference.

    Hmm. Is Dimon right? Do people hate him just because he’s rich and successful? That really would be unfair. Maybe we should ask the people of Jefferson County, Alabama, what they think.

    That particular locality is now in bankruptcy proceedings primarily because Dimon’s bank, Chase, used middlemen to bribe local officials – literally bribe, with cash and watches and new suits – to sign on to a series of onerous interest-rate swap deals that vastly expanded the county’s debt burden.

    Essentially, Jamie Dimon handed Birmingham, Alabama a Chase credit card and then bribed its local officials to run up a gigantic balance, leaving future residents and those residents’ children with the bill. As a result, the citizens of Jefferson County will now be making payments to Chase until the end of time.

    Do you think Jamie Dimon would have done that deal if he lived in Jefferson County? Put it this way: if he was trying to support two kids on $30,000 a year, and lived in a Birmingham neighborhood full of people in the same boat, would he sign off on a deal that jacked up everyone’s sewer bills 400% for the next thirty years?

    Doubtful. But then again, people like Jamie Dimon aren’t really citizens of any country. They live in their own gated archipelago, and the rest of the world is a dumping ground.

    Just look at how Chase behaved in Greece, for example.

    Having seen how well interest-rate swaps worked for Jefferson County, Alabama, Chase “helped” Greece mask its debt problem for years by selling a similar series of swaps to the Greek government. The bank then turned around and worked with banks like Goldman, Sachs to create a thing called the iTraxx SovX Western Europe index, which allowed investors to bet against Greek debt.

    In other words, Chase knowingly larded up the nation of Greece with a crippling future debt burden, then turned around and helped the world bet against Greek debt.

    Does a citizen of Greece do that deal? Forget that: does a human being do that deal?

    Operations like the Greek swap/short index maneuver were easy money for banks like Goldman and Chase – hell, it’s a no-lose play, like cutting a car’s brake lines and then betting on the driver to crash – but they helped create the monstrous European debt problem that this very minute is threatening to send the entire world economy into collapse, which would result in who knows what horrors. At minimum, millions might lose their jobs and benefits and homes. Millions more will be ruined financially.

    But why should Chase and Goldman care what happens to those people? Do they have any skin in that game?

    Of course not. We’re talking about banks that not only didn’t warn the citizens of Greece about their future debt disaster, they actively traded on that information, to make money for themselves.

    People like Dimon, and Schwarzman, and John Paulson, and all of the rest of them who think the “imbeciles” on the streets are simply full of reasonless class anger, they don’t get it. Nobody hates them for being successful. And not that this needs repeating, but nobody even minds that they are rich.

    What makes people furious is that they have stopped being citizens.

    Most of us 99-percenters couldn’t even let our dogs leave a dump on the sidewalk without feeling ashamed before our neighbors. It's called having a conscience: even though there are plenty of things most of us could get away with doing, we just don’t do them, because, well, we live here. Most of us wouldn’t take a million dollars to swindle the local school system, or put our next door neighbors out on the street with a robosigned foreclosure, or steal the life’s savings of some old pensioner down the block by selling him a bunch of worthless securities.

    But our Too-Big-To-Fail banks unhesitatingly take billions in bailout money and then turn right around and finance the export of jobs to new locations in China and India. They defraud the pension funds of state workers into buying billions of their crap mortgage assets. They take zero-interest loans from the state and then lend that same money back to us at interest. Or, like Chase, they bribe the politicians serving countries and states and cities and even school boards to take on crippling debt deals.

    Nobody with real skin in the game, who had any kind of stake in our collective future, would do any of those things. Or, if a person did do those things, you’d at least expect him to have enough shame not to whine to a Bloomberg reporter when the rest of us complained about it.

    But these people don’t have shame. What they have, in the place where most of us have shame, are extra sets of balls. Just listen to Cooperman, the former Goldman exec from that country club in Boca. According to Cooperman, the rich do contribute to society:
    Capitalists “are not the scourge that they are too often made out to be” and the wealthy aren’t “a monolithic, selfish and unfeeling lot,” Cooperman wrote. They make products that “fill store shelves at Christmas…”
    Unbelievable. Merry Christmas, bankers. And good luck getting that message out.


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    Good one Don.

    This one also gets to the point,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfXi...eature=related

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      Proving once again that while there are limits to compassion and wisdom, there are no limits to human greed and stupidity. Greed and Stupidity, I call it the GS factor. It will be the death of all of us.
      "I love a dog, he does nothing for political reasons." --Will Rogers

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        Not to derail the thread with minutia, but I had to stop when I got to this part -

        “If I hear a politician use the term ‘paying your fair share’ one more time, I’m going to vomit,” said Golisano, who turned 70 last month, celebrating the birthday with girlfriend Monica Seles, the former tennis star who won nine Grand Slam singles titles.
        - to google Monica Seles. She's only 38! The dude is 70. Did she squander all her tennis money or something? 30 year age difference. Just let me say - ewww.

        Back to the topic at hand...

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          Originally posted by don View Post



          A Christmas Message From America's Rich



          December 22, 9:05 AM ET


          What makes people furious is that they have stopped being citizens.









          What makes me furious is they're a bunch of damn criminals who've gotten away with it!

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            Originally posted by Raz View Post
            What makes me furious is they're a bunch of damn criminals who've gotten away with it!
            getting, Raz, getting . . . .



            The way the government, the Exchange, the Court, the CFTC and a Wall Street Bank treated the MF Global customers after their money was stolen is an absolute disgrace.

            But perhaps no more disgraceful than the many settlements without admission of guilt in serial financial frauds, the wrist slap fines, the turning of a blind eye to theft, and the stifling of reforms and reports on market manipulation. MF Global is the fruit of moral hazard in the concentrated power of a partnership between the government and corporations.

            No one seems to know anything, and yet the theft and the fraud continues.

            And in this perhaps is a cautionary tale for the rest of us who might not have been affected directly by this particular episode. Even if you do nothing, say nothing, make no waves, go along to get along, when the law is owned by the lawless, eventually they will come for you and yours as well.

            This is the lesson of history that we must never forget.

            (from Jesse's Cafe Americain)
            Last edited by don; December 22, 2011, 03:11 PM.

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              Originally posted by Shakespear View Post
              Good one Don.

              This one also gets to the point,

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGfXi...eature=related
              Let them eat rock!

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                What's amazing to me is that so many of these "people" are 65 or 70 years old and staring their own mortality right in the eye, yet act and talk as if they are going to live foever. Truly they are the ungodly; i.e., they live and order their lives as if there is no God who will demand an accounting made of their actions.
                "I love a dog, he does nothing for political reasons." --Will Rogers

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                  Originally posted by photon555 View Post
                  What's amazing to me is that so many of these "people" are 65 or 70 years old and staring their own mortality right in the eye, yet act and talk as if they are going to live foever. Truly they are the ungodly; i.e., they live and order their lives as if there is no God who will demand an accounting made of their actions.
                  +1.

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                    Originally posted by photon555 View Post
                    What's amazing to me is that so many of these "people" are 65 or 70 years old and staring their own mortality right in the eye, yet act and talk as if they are going to live foever. Truly they are the ungodly; i.e., they live and order their lives as if there is no God who will demand an accounting made of their actions.
                    I'm an atheist, but I have the same sentiments (minus the God part). They certainly aren't worried about leaving the world better than they found it, or using their wealth to leave any sort of positive legacy. An 1800's railroad or steel worker no doubt cursed Andrew Carnegie's name, but at least he built some libraries.

                    "You can't take it with you" is a cliche but it also happens to be true.

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                      Originally posted by Sutter Cane View Post
                      I'm an atheist, but I have the same sentiments (minus the God part). They certainly aren't worried about leaving the world better than they found it, or using their wealth to leave any sort of positive legacy. An 1800's railroad or steel worker no doubt cursed Andrew Carnegie's name, but at least he built some libraries.

                      "You can't take it with you" is a cliche but it also happens to be true.
                      +1
                      the surest most convincing argument FOR the estate tax eye've seen lately
                      the existing exemptions are plenty big enough to allow 'family' biz to be dealt with appropriately, IMHO
                      we dont need anymore DYNASTIES in The US.

                      sez the kinda-righty former Live Free or DIE State guy

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                        Originally posted by Sutter Cane View Post
                        Not to derail the thread with minutia, but I had to stop when I got to this part -

                        - to google Monica Seles. She's only 38! The dude is 70. Did she squander all her tennis money or something? 30 year age difference. Just let me say - ewww.

                        Back to the topic at hand...
                        well!... cant blame HIM, can ya?
                        tho she may not be anna kournikova, or maria sharapova, but still....
                        an excellent candidate for kranking out an heir or 2, eh?
                        always thot that had i attained that level of... 'sophi$tication' that i'd maintain bachelerhood til about same age,
                        gather a harem, make a few 'donations' and the checkout with a smile...

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                          Originally posted by lektrode View Post
                          well!... cant blame HIM, can ya?
                          tho she may not be anna kournikova, or maria sharapova, but still....
                          an excellent candidate for kranking out an heir or 2, eh?
                          always thot that had i attained that level of... 'sophi$tication' that i'd maintain bachelerhood til about same age,
                          gather a harem, make a few 'donations' and the checkout with a smile...
                          lek, you made have found the key to the 70 and feelin' immortal question

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                            Originally posted by don View Post
                            getting, Raz, getting . . . .
                            ready....
                            steady!
                            aim!


                            FIRE:

                            Originally posted by jesse
                            No one seems to know anything, and yet the theft and the fraud continues.
                            and WHY is this (still) surprising - damn i hate to keep harpin on this (bein a yankee from BOS/NH an all) but jeeeeze louise, what else would they do - i mean chrikie mate, this doesnt even depend on what the definition of is is:


                            Originally posted by 60mins/obama
                            I can tell you, just from 40,000 feet, that some of the most damaging behavior on Wall Street, in some cases, some of the least ethical behavior on Wall Street, wasn't illegal. That's exactly why we had to change the laws. And that's why we put in place the toughest financial reform package since F.D.R. and the Great Depression.
                            (sorry i could help it dspencer)

                            Last edited by lektrode; December 22, 2011, 06:00 PM.

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                              Originally posted by don View Post
                              lek, you made have found the key to the 70 and feelin' immortal question
                              well... its not like it was me who thot of that one, but hey, some stuff never goes out of style, eh?



                              This painting by Austrian artist Eduard Veith shows a scene at the mythical Fountain of Youth. Throughout history, people have sought magical ways to restore their youth.

                              this one from those purveyors of anthropo-porn:
                              http://science.nationalgeographic.co...tain-of-youth/

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