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    Paul Craig Roberts - American Economy: R.I.P.

    The US economy continues its slow death before our eyes, but economists, policymakers, and most of the public are blind to the tottering fabled land of opportunity.

    In August jobs in goods-producing industries declined by 64,000. The US economy lost 4,000 jobs overall. The private sector created a mere 24,000 jobs, all of which could be attributed to the 24,100 new jobs for waitresses and bartenders. The government sector lost 28,000 jobs.

    In the 21st century the US economy has ceased to create jobs in export industries and in industries that compete with imports. US job growth has been confined to domestic services, principally to food services and drinking places (waitresses and bartenders), private education and health services (ambulatory health care and hospital orderlies), and construction (which now has tanked). The lack of job growth in higher productivity, higher paid occupations associated with the American middle and upper middle classes will eventually kill the US consumer market.

    The unemployment rate held steady, but that is because 340,000 Americans unable to find jobs dropped out of the labor force in August. The US measures unemployment only among the active work force, which includes those seeking jobs. Those who are discouraged and have given up are not counted as unemployed.

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    In 2006 (the latest annual data), the US had a trade deficit totaling $838,271,000,000.

    The US trade deficit with Europe was $142,538,000,000. With Canada the deficit was $75,085,000,000. With Latin America it was $112,579,000,000 (of which $67,303,000,000 was with Mexico). The deficit with Asia and Pacific was $409,765,000,000 (of which $233,087,000,000 was with China and $90,966,000,000 was with Japan). With the Middle East the deficit was $36,112,000,000, and with Africa the US trade deficit was $62,192,000,000.

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    How long can Americans consume more than they can produce?
    American over-consumption can continue for as long as Americans can find ways to go deeper in personal debt in order to finance their consumption and for as long as the US dollar can remain the world reserve currency.
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    The jobs data and the absence of growth in real income for most of the population are inconsistent with reports of US GDP and productivity growth. Economists take for granted that the work force is paid in keeping with its productivity. A rise in productivity thus translates into a rise in real incomes of workers. Yet, we have had years of reported strong productivity growth but stagnant or declining household incomes. And somehow the GDP is rising, but not the incomes of the work force.

    Something is wrong here. Either the data indicating productivity and GDP growth are wrong or Karl Marx was right that capitalism works to concentrate income in the hands of the few capitalists. A case can be made for both explanations.
    Recently an economist, Susan Houseman, discovered that the reliability of some US economics statistics has been impaired by offshoring. Houseman found that cost reductions achieved by US firms shifting production offshore are being miscounted as GDP growth in the US and that productivity gains achieved by US firms when they move design, research, and development offshore are showing up as increases in US productivity. Obviously, production and productivity that occur abroad are not part of the US domestic economy.
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    The case for Marx is that offshoring has boosted corporate earnings by lowering labor costs, thereby concentrating income growth in the hands of the owners and managers of capital.
    The Business week article - The Real Cost Of Offshoring

    The Susan Houseman article - Outsourcing, Offshoring, and Productivity Measurement in Manufacturing

    Abstract
    I discuss reasons why manufacturing productivity statistics should be interpreted with caution in light of the recent growth of domestic and foreign outsourcing and offshoring. First, outsourcing and offshoring are poorly measured in U.S. statistics, and poor measurement may impart a significant bias to manufacturing and, where offshoring is involved, aggregate productivity statistics. Second, companies often outsource or offshore work to take advantage of cheap (relative to their output) labor, and such cost savings are counted as productivity gains, even in multifactor productivity calculations. This fact has potentially important implications for the interpretation of productivity statistics. Whether, for instance, productivity growth derives from a better-educated, more efficient U.S. workforce, from investment in capital equipment in U.S. establishments, or from the use of cheap foreign labor affects how productivity gains are distributed among workers and firms in the short term and undoubtedly matters for U.S. industrial competitiveness and living standards in the long term. Although it is impossible to fully assess the impact that mismeasurement and cost savings from outsourcing and offshoring have had on measured productivity growth in manufacturing, I point to several pieces of evidence that suggest it is significant, and I argue that these issues warrant serious attention.
    Last edited by Rajiv; September 12, 2007, 08:03 PM.

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    Re: American Economy: R.I.P.

    Paul Craig Roberts and a strong cup o' Joe. The perfect pick-me-up to start your morning.

    Thanks for the article, Rajiv.

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    • #3
      Re: American Economy: R.I.P.

      Originally posted by Rajiv View Post
      Paul Craig Roberts - American Economy: R.I.P.



      The Business week article - The Real Cost Of Offshoring

      The Susan Houseman article - Outsourcing, Offshoring, and Productivity Measurement in Manufacturing

      most of the public are blind to the tottering fabled land of opportunity.
      As long as the banksters control the Free education system along with the media this little formula is never going to change. Like Dickieboy Cheeney said seven years ago, they create the reality and Reagan proved that deficits don't matter. The reality is, nothing is what we think it is and we've been educated by the banks and informed by five families that own 90% of the media to believe what they tell us. When you've got over 10,000 nuclear warheads and have proved to the world you are insane enough to use them, the world will continue to provide real goods and services in exchange for green pieces of paper. With crude selling at record levels the world needs to come up with an ever increasing supply of green pieces of paper just in order to survive. Record poppy production funds the wars by creating record levels of Narco D0llars and usury helps inflate and deflate our net worths at will. Now why would anyone want to kill this scam?
      "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
      - Charles Mackay

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        Tet -

        You wrote:

        << With crude selling at record levels the world needs to come up with an ever increasing supply of green pieces of paper just in order to survive. >>

        After disagreeing with me for months on this question, you now seem to have involuntarily agreed.

        Absolutely my point for the last several months here at iTulip. There is a "problem" in the crude market - as crude production or supply grows to be a further "problem" global money supply is being employed to act as a shock absorber to everything from entitlement programs to basic services and entire national budgets.

        OIL is putting a squeeze on, and MONEY VOLUME is reacting. This is straight from Janszen's original thesis in 2000, as to what occurred in the 1970's and what could occur again if the oil market ever tightened again (in 2000 there was little hint that it would).

        Also, MONEY is putting a BLOAT on, and OIL is reacting. The single simple point I tried to put across in prior discussions here was that this unstable dynamic is now a TWO-WAY-STREET! And one of those directions is flowing exactly as you unwittingly (or wittingly?) acknowledged above. Oil is driving monetary inflation, as well as somewhat the other way around.

        I'm pointing this out absolutely without polemic. Oil is at $80 and in percentage terms can now rise to $100 in a blink. A couple of years ago the idea of $100 oil still "meant something" in that it was considered a benchmark for something significant going on in that market. The IEA is on record a month ago as having openly advised OPEC to increase it's production warning of further sharp rises otherwise - and OPEC has replied they "do not see the need" for production increases.

        There is a "problem" in the crude market - as crude production or supply grows to be a further "problem" global money supply is being employed to act as a shock absorber. OIL TIGHTNESS = INFLATION. INFLATION PRODUCES OIL TIGHTNESS.

        OIL AND INFLATION have a tightly linked and considerably more complex relationship than merely stating all oil price rises are purely a manifestation of monetary inflation. Your most recent comment seems to be accomodating this idea now, and if so, I would welcome it.

        And no, I don't wish to argue this with you just because we've argued this before. I do wish to suggest the viability of this idea for the wider community here though.

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        • #5
          Re: American Economy: R.I.P.

          Originally posted by Lukester View Post
          Tet -

          You wrote:

          << With crude selling at record levels the world needs to come up with an ever increasing supply of green pieces of paper just in order to survive. >>

          After disagreeing with me for months on this question, you now seem to have involuntarily agreed.
          Supply and demand is a suckers bet. We've hit Peak D0llar, which is the point I've been telling you about for several months now. Petrol D0llar, Narco D0llar, World's Hegemon still can export inflation though, looks like it will continue to do so for at least the rest of this year.
          "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
          - Charles Mackay

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            Re: American Economy: R.I.P.

            Tet -

            Thanks for your input.

            I must confess I can't make heads or tails of your answer (or many of your other answers). Try being a little less cryptic? A reply which carefully spells out the simple mechanics of what you are suggesting, should be immediately intelligible in one reading to just about every reader on this community. Even the most complex ideas can be put forward this way, as E.J. does always as a matter of habit.

            Clarity lends substance. You can win converts to your own point of view by simply explaining a thing so clearly that even your local grocer will read it and in a single reading understand exactly what you suggested.

            "Peak money" tells me zip. I see a proliferation of money. I think you've indicated many times you do as well? If this is your response, why not explain carefully how you view the interaction of oil prices and the proliferation of money, or whatever "peak money" does to oil prices in your view, and rule out factors which you don't think apply. Then people like me would understand.

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              Re: American Economy: R.I.P.

              Lukester,

              The distinction between Peak Oil and Peak Dollar is a subtle one.

              Peak Oil means everything goes to hell as the energy underpinnings progressively grow more expensive and thus drive everything up in cost.

              Peak Dollar means the dollar tanking will cause dollar denominations of commodities and real assets to rise, but does not necessarily mean everything goes up in cost (to everyone outside of America).

              While the oil price has increased the cost of energy in Japan, Russia, Europe that I've personally seen - the scale is much much smaller than here in the US. This would seem to reinforce the peak dollar thesis; even were nothing to change - businesses and consumers in the US are having to make much larger adjustments due to energy cost impact than elsewhere.

              Another thing: Peak Dollar also means that even if overall world consumption of oil declines or even stays steady due to decreased US demand for oil, that the cost of energy in the US could still increase.

              Under Peak Oil, the effect would be similar but much smaller in scope and spread out on everyone.

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                C1ue -

                I am always perfectly prepared to offer a sincere 'thank you' to Tet if he'd only consent to give me the same answer his green-grocer could readily understand. I read your response in 20 seconds and grasped it's entirety in two seconds. I suggest only that 'Peak Dollar' is a misnomer, because after the peak in 'value' of that monetary unit, the QUANTITY of these green bits of paper will expand without limit.

                Seems therefore there is no 'peak' in the dollar units production until the collapse of the currency has played out into the final deflation (years more, and lots more paper, to go). Where's the peak in 2007 - 2008?

                Does "peak" instead refer to the moment when the currency goes into very high inflation instead of decline? Quantity of USD then soars exponentially, instead of diving?

                It seems within your above (very clear) explanation that tightness in the energy markets is acknowledged to be at least one factor.

                We should take a good look at what's happening to the price of agricultural goods worldwide, as this sector is now soaring dramatically, for a highly complex set of reasons much more closely linked to natural causes and resources, than to the green confetti proliferating mainly here in the US.

                A worthwhile examination could be made of the extent to which "Peak Dolllar" can possibly be contributing to the 20% - 30% average rise in the cost of foodstuffs worldwide reported in the past year.

                20% - 30%?? If these cost rises are occurring in countries as disparate as UK to South Africa, to India, to Middle East, why or how does "Peak Dollar" play anything more than a quite peripheral part in those cost rises? It's then either "Peak - all of those other currencies" or it's "tightness in the physical / production components of those agricultural markets", or a bit of both.

                If the "Peak Dollar" is acknowledged to have not played a large part in such very large cost rises in far flung countries in a mere one year period (30% in a year??), perhaps we could acknowledge that something is acting on the cost of goods worldwide to a large extent which has little to do with "Peak Dollar"?

                My point exactly - it is not just a two way street between currency debasement and oil, it is a four lane highway of cross currents, and easily as many of those currents are coming AT the dollar and global currences, as are the currents which are flowing FROM the debasing currencies towards oil.

                This is a totally un-controversial idea which has so far made little headway in this community.

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                  Re: American Economy: R.I.P.

                  Lukester,

                  Sorry for seeming to put forward a one dimensional argument - but I was just answering a one dimensional question

                  The agricultural commodity price increase is I believe a beneficiary of Peak Dollar, but is not caused by it.

                  Agricultural commodity price increases are a function of increasing wealth in China (and other countries) leading to more people eating further up the food chain. 1 lb of chicken requires something like 2 lbs of feed, turkey: 2.6, pork around 8, and beef around 12. This is not even talking about ethanol!

                  The dollar can get stronger or collapse, but the dollar can only modify this overall agricultural commodity trend.

                  As for oil, there is a similar updraft as with agricultural commodities, but oil and energy is secondary in the hierarchy of needs - especially since many of these growing countries are subsidizing the price of energy.

                  Thus my belief is that oil will benefit from a dollar collapse, but this benefit could very much be tempered by both technological advancement and/or demand reduction.

                  As for dollar collapse, this is a sentiment play based on the (correct) belief that the US is abusing the dollar's fiat status and the (growing) belief that the US is going nowhere economically.

                  Though really difficult to start, sentiment plays are equally difficult to stop once begun.

                  my 2 cents
                  Last edited by c1ue; September 13, 2007, 03:00 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Re: American Economy: R.I.P.

                    Originally posted by Lukester View Post
                    C1ue -

                    I am always perfectly prepared to offer a sincere 'thank you' to Tet if he'd only consent to give me the same answer his green-grocer could readily understand. I read your response in 20 seconds and grasped it's entirety in two seconds. I suggest only that 'Peak Dollar' is a misnomer, because after the peak in 'value' of that monetary unit, the QUANTITY of these green bits of paper will expand without limit.

                    Seems therefore there is no 'peak' in the dollar units production until the collapse of the currency has played out into the final deflation (years more, and lots more paper, to go). Where's the peak in 2007 - 2008?

                    Does "peak" instead refer to the moment when the currency goes into very high inflation instead of decline? Quantity of USD then soars exponentially, instead of diving?

                    It seems within your above (very clear) explanation that tightness in the energy markets is acknowledged to be at least one factor.

                    We should take a good look at what's happening to the price of agricultural goods worldwide, as this sector is now soaring dramatically, for a highly complex set of reasons much more closely linked to natural causes and resources, than to the green confetti proliferating mainly here in the US.

                    A worthwhile examination could be made of the extent to which "Peak Dolllar" can possibly be contributing to the 20% - 30% average rise in the cost of foodstuffs worldwide reported in the past year.

                    20% - 30%?? If these cost rises are occurring in countries as disparate as UK to South Africa, to India, to Middle East, why or how does "Peak Dollar" play anything more than a quite peripheral part in those cost rises? It's then either "Peak - all of those other currencies" or it's "tightness in the physical / production components of those agricultural markets", or a bit of both.

                    If the "Peak Dollar" is acknowledged to have not played a large part in such very large cost rises in far flung countries in a mere one year period (30% in a year??), perhaps we could acknowledge that something is acting on the cost of goods worldwide to a large extent which has little to do with "Peak Dollar"?

                    My point exactly - it is not just a two way street between currency debasement and oil, it is a four lane highway of cross currents, and easily as many of those currents are coming AT the dollar and global currences, as are the currents which are flowing FROM the debasing currencies towards oil.

                    This is a totally un-controversial idea which has so far made little headway in this community.
                    We agree to disagree, but I see you are starting to grasp Peak D0llar. Lot's going on in the world in the fight against Peak D0llar, threats of other oil Bourses, threats of natural gas cartels, no d0llars used for cross border trade, legalizing opiates and cocaine, no free trade agreements, Yuan peg to the d0llar, huge trading blocks being formed, huge military alliances being created, countries shooting down satellites, building fighter jets faster and better than ours, crude trading in other currencies, lots of stuff going on. All of it having nothing to do with Peak Oil and everything to do with Peak D0llar. Not much Russia needs from the rest of the world, why give all that crude away if they're running out?
                    "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
                    - Charles Mackay

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                      Originally posted by Tet
                      Not much Russia needs from the rest of the world, why give all that crude away if they're running out?
                      Tet, au contraire mon frere.

                      Russia needs food.

                      Apparently soccer teams also.

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                        Re: American Economy: R.I.P.

                        Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                        Tet, au contraire mon frere.

                        Russia needs food.

                        Apparently soccer teams also.
                        Cheap cellphones, clothes, DVD players, flatscreens, digital cameras and notebook computers, who doesn't want these things? I don't understand why those pesky rooskies don't just give our yellow skinned cousins paper money instead of trading real commodities for them. Strange, almost like those commies have excess oil and are willing to part with it for cheap trinkets.
                        "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
                        - Charles Mackay

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                        • #13
                          Re: American Economy: R.I.P.

                          Originally posted by Tet
                          Cheap cellphones, clothes, DVD players, flatscreens, digital cameras and notebook computers, who doesn't want these things?
                          Actually Russians bought the 2 most expensive cell phones in the world at the Millionaire's fair last year.

                          Also on the brand side, the Russian market is growing faster than the Chinese on luxury goods.

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                            Re: American Economy: R.I.P.

                            Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                            Actually Russians bought the 2 most expensive cell phones in the world at the Millionaire's fair last year.

                            Also on the brand side, the Russian market is growing faster than the Chinese on luxury goods.
                            Not to mention some really fast fighter jets, some pretty cool new missiles and what some would call the biggest non-nuclear bomb in the world. A united Asia combined with Russia has always been the BOE's biggest fear, looks like it's coming true.
                            "Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."
                            - Charles Mackay

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                              well one thing is a attack/war in iran can work in effect to strengthen dollars reserve status, which appears to be lessening by the month.

                              foreign investments in dollar assets may not be returning much to governments who are posturing to "diversify" (i.e run away slowly) from these dollar investments. if the U.S goes into Iran and the "supply of oil is reduced" thru impaired shipments in the strait of hormuz , the price of oil will go up dramatically , and *the demand for dollars held in central banks willl go up as the total cost of the energy's bills go up as they must pay in dollars. this will give the dollar devaluation a second wind w/ security of holding world currency status firmer

                              this should as lukester mentioned effect american (consumers) the most in the area of energy inflation prices. the effects to other country's or currency's should be further pressure for the Euro to inflate other wise the euro would price their exports out of the market

                              does anyone else see iran attack as likely w/ the price spike in oil and the central banks needing to hold more dollars(for higher energy petro dollar bills), of course this will be along side a housing nightmare/ consumer spending led economic slowdown as well as IMO a market that could see some serious asset deflation shocks in RETAIL and mortgage lenders amongst others

                              it appears food price increases are going to be as significant for foreigners as the oil price increases will be for american's. although american's will be lucky enough to feel pressure for each. This will work to make the middle class and endangered species in many nation's economies
                              Last edited by cpick; September 15, 2007, 01:20 AM.

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