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    and we know who he works for . . .

    BOSTON (MarketWatch) — Call it the Great Rock & Roll Real Estate Swindle. Call it a $26 billion Bait & Switch. Call it the Mother of All Boondoggles.

    Call it whatever you want.

    But as foreclosures surge again and house prices continue to slide, new data out Monday reveals more of the grim verdict on the $26 billion federal program in 2009 and 2010 to offer tax credits to home buyers.

    You may remember that between the spring of 2009 and September 2010 the government handed out credits of up to $8,000 to induce people to buy a new home. It was supposed to gee up the housing market.

    How’d that work out?


    First off, it raised the price of housing by double the incentive. That was nationwide. High priced areas were the cherry on the top. Look out commissions and loan initiation fees!

    Zillow.com, the real estate information company, says the average price of an American home fell again last month to $171,500 — the lowest level in eight years. That’s down 4.4% from a year ago, although it’s been about stable over the summer.

    Now compare the average prices with those that people paid in 2009 and 2010, when they took advantage of the credits.

    According to Zillow, prices during that time averaged about $186,000.

    In other words, based at least on average prices, you’ve lost about $14,500 — nearly twice the value of the credit. Stan Humphries, Zillow’s chief economist, says the credits, effectively expired in June 2010, when prices nationwide averaged $182,000. Since then we’re down $10,500.

    The biggest losers? Step forward all those who took up Uncle Sam’s $8,000 bribe and rushed out to buy a new home in Santa Barbara, Calif. You have already lost $50,000 of your $440,000 investment. And that’s even counting the $8,000 bribe!

    Others who are already down more than $30,000 include home buyers in places like San Francisco, Seattle, Flagstaff, Ariz., and anyone who bought down the road from the underground bunker of MarketWatch’s own Paul “The Road” Farrell in San Luis Obispo, Calif.

    Oh, and check out Carson City, Nev. The typical homes only cost about $190,000, and even after counting the $8,000 credit you’re already down $8,000.

    The IRS says the entire program cost taxpayers $26 billion (though of course it was put on the national credit card, on which interest rates are very low). That money has vanished. It has, as the saying goes, “gone to money heaven.”

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/the...ce=patrick.net

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    Re: Uncle Scam

    yep and the hits just keep on comin.... faster, all of a sudden? (as in gettem ready for qe3...)

    and funny, eye didnt see this one anywhere.. well... the few places eye visit for most news... but not on wsj, nor bloomieville even - low and behold showed up in this AM's fishwrapper - and even funnier - look where it popped up first on google (with typos an all):

    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english201..._131236111.htm


    Fannie Mac seeks 7.8 bln USD aid from U.S. government after widening loss


    WASHINGTON, Nov. 8 (Xinhua) -- Fannie Mac, one of the two major U.S. mortgage-finance companies, said Tuesday it will request a 7. 8-billin-U.S.-dollar aid from the U.S. government after posting huge loss in the third quarter.
    The government-backed company, confronted with a weak housing market, reported a net loss of 5.1 billion dollars in the third quarter of 2011, much more than a net loss of 2.9 billion dollars in the previous quarter.
    The main reason for the increased net loss reflected the credit- related expenses and fair value losses due to further declines in interest rates, said the mortgage giant in a financial report, adding that continued weakness in the housing market and the economy overall had a significant impact on its derivative losses.
    The Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), along with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, outlined a series of changes to the Home Affordable Refinance Program (HARP) in October, to save homeowners ' money by refinancing their mortgage loans with the current lower interest rates.
    The company also paid a quarterly dividend of 2.5 billion dollars to the Treasury Department as prescribed in Senior Preferred Stock Purchase Agreement, compared with 2.3 billion dollars in the previous quarter.
    To offset the deficit of 7.8 billion dollars as of Sept. 30, 2011, Fannie Mac will seek the same amount aid from the Treasury, pushing the aggregate government support funding up to 112.6 billion dollars.
    Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have survived on Treasury aid since September 2008, when they were put under conservatorship by the federal government after suffering from the collapse of the subprime mortgage market.
    Special Report: Global Financial Crisis

    dunno - does the fact that chinese media is putting this out b4 our own lamestreamers get to it, mean anything?
    (such as perhaps it doesnt fit well with the present meme on the topic? - and NO don, et al - i'm only a 'foot soldier' for The Rest Of US and i would vote for miz warren in a heartbeat, for whatever office she ran for ;)

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      Re: Uncle Scam

      and then theres this lil beauty....

      hmmm... where have we heard _this_ story before....

      http://news.xinhuanet.com/english201..._131232676.htm

      Chinese housing market sees turning point soon?

      2011-11-07 10:00:26

      Visitors check information of houses during an autumn real estate fair in Tianjin Municipality, north China, Oct. 29, 2011. A total of 92 exhibitors attended the fair which kicked off on Saturday, presenting a variety of buildings with an area of 19.9 million square meters. (Xinhua/Wang Huan)
      By Tang Danlu
      BEIJING,Nov. 7 (Xinhuanet) – The continued tightening measures of the government and the poor autumn sales volume have forced Chinese property developers to drop housing prices nationwide, which indicates that the market is moving closer to a turning point.
      Official statistics shows that the housing inventory in China’s first-tier cities is increasing, which is a desired downward trend for private homebuyers.
      In September, 59 of a statistical pool of 70 major cities saw new home prices increase more slowly from a year earlier, compared with 40 cities in August, the NBS said in a report on its website.
      According to the Centaline Property Agency, a supply of 9,152 new homes in October has added Beijing's total housing supply to 118,000 units, a new high since June 2009.
      It would take 22 months to consume the inventory even if there were no new supply, said the agency.
      The gloomy sales in September and October will weigh heavily on developers, as they will have to pay back banks, cover construction expenses and pay for employee bonuses during the last two months of the year, said Chen Guoqiang, vice chairman of the China Real Estate Society.
      "The central government's decision to maintain the property policies is conducive to guiding market expectations and will accelerate the arrival of a drop in housing prices," Chen stressed, adding that embattled by rising debts and weak sales, developers will likely drop their prices even further to secure more sales.
      UNPRECEDENTED PRESSURE ON DEVELOPERS
      The plunge in transactions and fund constraints are pushing real estate companies to take action to court more buyers.
      China Vanke, the country's largest real estate developer by market value, led the wave of sales by lowering prices of their housing projects in Beijing and south China’s Guangdong Province starting from this month.
      Treading the heel of Vanke, other leading property firms, such as Agile Property, Capital Group, Evergrande and R&F Property, all reported to have cut price to reduce inventories and boost sales volumes.
      However, the cut of home price has just begun. Market analysts are expecting lower price as declining sales and increasing inventory are putting more strains on property firms, especially those small and medium-sized developers.
      Zhang Dawei, analyst from the Centaline Property Agency, said the first-tier cities have come very close to the housing price turning point.

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      and hows that for a date on the photo....

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