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    'He has a right to speak,' said the cop to the banker

    Hat tip to iTuliper neoken.
    Ed.

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    Re: 'He has a right to speak,' said the cop to the banker

    I wonder if this bank has access to the 'off-duty' policemen like other banks in New York...

    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/...-uniforms.html

    We reported a bit more than a week ago on how JP Morgan had given a troublingly large donation of $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation. As we recounted, that foundation was established in 1971, which was when the city was sliding into its fiscal crisis, as a way for companies and individuals to bolster the NYPD’s budget. And even though in theory contributions go into a general coffer, one has to suspect in practice that big donors will get more attention from the cops. Even though this donation was the biggest the police foundation had ever received, it was still peanuts relative to the total NYPD budget. Nevertheless, as Richard Kline pointed out, the gesture was significant:
    To me, the telltale with the JippyMo ‘donation’ is that it was _publicly_ announced. Jamie the Demon and his top heads want the public to know that the banksters LIKE the police, as opposed to those daft, sloppy, protestors.

    The bankster/Kochster assault on unions was excruciatingly badly timed. It aims directly at public service unions. At their pensions. At their staffing levels. At their equipment. One of the most cogent remarks coming out of the intitial Wisconsin action (before the org-heads diverted it into failing to elect more Democrats) came from the police there, to the effect that lower staffing levels threatened _their_ safety. The local police were markedly sympathetic to the capitol building occupation in Madison. Some of this has clearly been whispered in the ear of the financial oligarchs by their paid consultants to the effect that alienating the police is not in the interests of the 1%. I don’t think that the sum of money is especially relevant or substantial. What matters is that it is a public demonstration that the banksters _like_ the police, with the implication that they will be prepared to drop a little more loose change on them if they’ll clap the rabble into Rikers like good fellows.
    And it turns out that big financial service firms have also been buying protection via the NYPD. Literally.

    Pam Martens in Counterpunch (hat tip reader 1sk) describes a program which allows private firms to pay the city to put a cop on the street to police for them. I am not making this up. Oh, and the white shirted cops that seem to be more aggressive in going after protestors (most notably, the one that infamously maced a group of women?) The assumption has been that they are supervisors. Martens suggests they are in the employ of businesses:
    If you’re a Wall Street behemoth, there are endless opportunities to privatize profits and socialize losses beyond collecting trillions of dollars in bailouts from taxpayers. One of the ingenious methods that has remained below the public’s radar was started by the Rudy Giuliani administration in New York City in 1998. It’s called the Paid Detail Unit and it allows the New York Stock Exchange and Wall Street corporations, including those repeatedly charged with crimes, to order up a flank of New York’s finest with the ease of dialing the deli for a pastrami on rye.

    The corporations pay an average of $37 an hour (no medical, no pension benefit, no overtime pay) for a member of the NYPD, with gun, handcuffs and the ability to arrest. The officer is indemnified by the taxpayer, not the corporation.

    New York City gets a 10 percent administrative fee on top of the $37 per hour paid to the police. The City’s 2011 budget called for $1,184,000 in Paid Detail fees, meaning private corporations were paying wages of $11.8 million to police participating in the Paid Detail Unit. The program has more than doubled in revenue to the city since 2002.

    The taxpayer has paid for the training of the rent-a-cop, his uniform and gun, and will pick up the legal tab for lawsuits stemming from the police personnel following illegal instructions from its corporate master. Lawsuits have already sprung up from the program.
    If you assume a policeman works 48 weeks a year, that equates to 166 private goons masquerading as law enforcement. And remember, the corporate sponsors don’t pay for any benefits. The rule of thumb I’m used to is 25% to 30% of cash comp. And that’s before, as Marten stresses, training and litigation costs.

    Lehman failed and owed the NYPD for 21 Paid Detail policemen. Goldman, the New York Stock Exchange, and the World Financial Center have all used Paid Detail. Martens points out that the New York Stock Exchange used its force to act under its direction (rather than the city’s):
    On September 8, 2004, Robert Britz, then President and Co-Chief Operating Officer of the New York Stock Exchange, testified as follows to the U.S. House Committee on Financial Services:
    “…we have implemented new hiring standards requiring former law enforcement or military backgrounds for the security staff…We have established a 24-hour NYPD Paid Detail monitoring the perimeter of the datacenters…We have implemented traffic control and vehicle screening at the checkpoints. We have installed fixed protective planters and movable vehicle barriers.”
    Military backgrounds; paid NYPD 24-7; checkpoints; vehicle barriers?..In his testimony, the NYSE executive Britz states that “we” did this or that while describing functions that clearly belong to the City of New York.
    Martens also describes how the suit over the arrest of 700 OWS protestors on Brooklyn Bridge 30 members of the NYPD and 10 “law enforcement officers not employed by the NYPD”.

    I found this report to be very troubling. Even though I’ve written how the US is moving towards becoming a Mussolini-style corpocracy, we are further down that path than I realized.

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      Re: 'He has a right to speak,' said the cop to the banker

      Very nice.

      I'm curious though, does Peer to Peer lending (not available everywhere yet) have a place in this "Bank Local" movement?

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        Re: 'He has a right to speak,' said the cop to the banker

        Originally posted by FRED View Post
        I don't understand the significance of this man passing out flyers.

        - even if all people move out their deposits to outside Chase/BoA, it is not going to affect them, they have FED ready to provide reserves in case they don't have.
        - Also these banks have like $1 trillion sitting as reserves[which was because they converted credit money(house loans/MBS), were converted to reserves]

        Banks have the money and now they can lever it up and buy everything..the only thing probably stopping them from levering is probably a FED/Treasury secret mandate or probably they are going to
        start lending again.. I am seeing that housing is bottoming this spring 2012?

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        • #5
          Re: 'He has a right to speak,' said the cop to the banker

          Originally posted by sishya View Post
          I don't understand the significance of this man passing out flyers.

          - even if all people move out their deposits to outside Chase/BoA, it is not going to affect them, they have FED ready to provide reserves in case they don't have.
          - Also these banks have like $1 trillion sitting as reserves[which was because they converted credit money(house loans/MBS), were converted to reserves]

          Banks have the money and now they can lever it up and buy everything..the only thing probably stopping them from levering is probably a FED/Treasury secret mandate or probably they are going to
          start lending again.. I am seeing that housing is bottoming this spring 2012?

          For me the significance is that he is making a choice. Maybe you're right and it wont matter, but what if everyone starts to make a different choice? To refuse to get a mortgage from these institutions, refuse to use a credit card from them, or line of credit. What if the choices continue to grow, and people start to refuse to do business with them, or anyone that they do business with AT ALL. To me this is significant.

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            Re: 'He has a right to speak,' said the cop to the banker

            Originally posted by c1ue View Post
            I wonder if this bank has access to the 'off-duty' policemen like other banks in New York...

            http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/...-uniforms.html
            of if they are planning a little 'donation' to the copshop as JPM(?) did a few months back...

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            • #7
              Re: 'He has a right to speak,' said the cop to the banker

              Originally posted by sishya View Post
              ....probably they are going to
              start lending again.. I am seeing that housing is bottoming this spring 2012?
              perhaps - altho the NAR, along with the green shoots cheerleading squad (aka the current occupants) have had that same prediction going since.....

              2009, for 2010?
              tho i'm sure it will eventually turn out to be correct, since uncle ben has been doing his best, after all, to get us just a 'little bit' of inflation going, right? likely we'll see the return of a 300k median house price - any day now...

              cept that a loaf of bread will cost 12bux, with a gal of gasoline about the same, but not to worry - we can substitute matsos for bread and all buy a prious or leaf to replace our chevy's

              and hey!
              i'm sure they'll have the price of the latest vers of the ipad down to a hundred bux or so, well within the range of a cheezeburger at mickyD's
              Last edited by lektrode; November 04, 2011, 04:13 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: 'He has a right to speak,' said the cop to the banker

                Originally posted by dlew22 View Post
                For me the significance is that he is making a choice. Maybe you're right and it wont matter, but what if everyone starts to make a different choice? To refuse to get a mortgage from these institutions, refuse to use a credit card from them, or line of credit. What if the choices continue to grow, and people start to refuse to do business with them, or anyone that they do business with AT ALL. To me this is significant.
                Absolutely. The only thing I can be sure of is what I do. It's actually not hard to ignore the offers of the big players.



                Russell Simmons is probably just licensing his name in this instance. Will he make a different choice the next time it is presented to him?

                http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business...st-protesters/
                Last edited by cjppjc; November 04, 2011, 09:28 PM.

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                • #9
                  Re: 'He has a right to speak,' said the cop to the banker

                  Originally posted by dlew22 View Post
                  For me the significance is that he is making a choice. Maybe you're right and it wont matter, but what if everyone starts to make a different choice? To refuse to get a mortgage from these institutions, refuse to use a credit card from them, or line of credit. What if the choices continue to grow, and people start to refuse to do business with them, or anyone that they do business with AT ALL. To me this is significant.
                  Agree. And for what it's worth:

                  Bank Customers Flee to CUs

                  WASHINGTON — An estimated 650,000 consumers have closed their bank accounts and opted for credit union membership over the past four weeks, according to CUNA, bringing the approach to Saturday’s Bank Transfer Day to a crescendo.
                  In a survey of 5,000 of its credit union members CUNA estimates that at least 650,000 consumers across the nation have joined credit unions since Sept. 29, the day Bank of America unveiled its now-rescinded $5 monthly debit card fee. Also during that time, CUNA estimates that credit unions have added $4.5 billion in new savings accounts, likely from the new members and existing members shifting their funds.

                  The survey results also show that more than four in every five credit unions experiencing member growth since Sept. 29 attributed the growth to consumer reaction to new fees imposed by banks, or a combination of consumer reactions to the new bank fees plus the social media-inspired “Bank Transfer Day,” Nov. 5.
                  “These results indicate that consumers are clearly making a smarter choice by moving to credit unions where, on average, they will save about $70 a year in fewer or no fees, lower rates on loans and higher return on savings.” said CUNA President Bill Cheney.

                  Cheney said the growth is particularly noticeable at larger credit unions (those with $100 million or more in assets, which account for about 20% of all credit unions – but count about 80% of all credit union members). The CUNA survey shows that more than 70% of these credit unions reported they have seen growth in memberships and deposits since Sept. 29.

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                  • #10
                    Re: 'He has a right to speak,' said the cop to the banker

                    Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                    I wonder if this bank has access to the 'off-duty' policemen like other banks in New York...

                    http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/...-uniforms.html
                    To be fair, NYPD’s Anthony Bologna is not in the private security business, he is simply a sadist:

                    http://www.buzzfeed.com/unwantedperm...praying-p-2t37

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                    • #11
                      Re: 'He has a right to speak,' said the cop to the banker

                      Originally posted by sishya View Post
                      I don't understand the significance of this man passing out flyers.

                      - even if all people move out their deposits to outside Chase/BoA, it is not going to affect them, they have FED ready to provide reserves in case they don't have.
                      - Also these banks have like $1 trillion sitting as reserves[which was because they converted credit money(house loans/MBS), were converted to reserves]

                      Banks have the money and now they can lever it up and buy everything..the only thing probably stopping them from levering is probably a FED/Treasury secret mandate or probably they are going to
                      start lending again.. I am seeing that housing is bottoming this spring 2012?
                      Politically, the Banks will not be able to justify getting bailouts if they are not "serving" the People.
                      Boycotting the Banks is more than just a financial action . . . it is a political action.
                      raja
                      Boycott Big Banks • Vote Out Incumbents

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                      • #12
                        Re: 'He has a right to speak,' said the cop to the banker

                        When protesting against the Financial Elites, the police will mostly be on the side of the 99%.

                        Of course, there will be bullies, and corrupt officers who get payoffs.
                        But the police have friends and relatives who are losing homes, jobs and retirement savings. They will ultimately support the People . . . because they are the people.
                        raja
                        Boycott Big Banks • Vote Out Incumbents

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