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  • #16
    Re: Stuff that restuarants in China use to make their food tasty

    Originally posted by wayiwalk View Post
    Sometime after 2000, my wife was complaining about how the apple juice sold in this country by the big firms included juice from concentrate from China.[/SIZE][/FONT]
    Included is an understatement.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1936583/posts

    While it may seem as American as apple pie, much of the apple juice filling those juice boxes and jugs on U.S. grocery shelves comes from China.
    Over the past 10 years, China, which produces up to 65 percent of the world's apples, has become the top supplier of concentrate used in apple juice sold in the U.S., contributing more than 40 percent of the juice consumed here, compared with 22 percent from domestically produced apples, according to the U.S. Apple Association trade group......
    The lesson to learn is - don't drink juice made from concentrate.

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    • #17
      Re: Stuff that restuarants in China use to make their food tasty

      The lesson is: being poor sucks.

      If you're rich, you can afford to have hand raised, beer fed beef.

      You can afford to have greenhouse fruits and vegetables raised with large amounts of human labor substituting for chemicals.

      You can afford to outbid 15-3rd world families for the output of any given agricultural resource.

      As for this thread - frankly unless the ingredients are actively poisonous, I'm not sure what the complaint is about.

      Melamine isn't a flavor ingredient. It was used because melamine fools a common industry protein detector to show higher levels of protein via higher levels of nitrogen from the melamine.

      If you want to make yourself ill, watch how sausage or hot dogs are made. Or observe the gobs and tubs of butter and sugar in cooking in American restaurants. Or how about the sawdust in fast food beef? "trimmings"?
      Last edited by c1ue; October 17, 2011, 12:58 PM.

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      • #18
        Re: Stuff that restuarants in China use to make their food tasty

        Originally posted by touchring View Post
        Included is an understatement.

        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1936583/posts

        The lesson to learn is - don't drink juice made from concentrate.

        You know it. Thanks for the link, I didn't realize how prevalent it was, it also opens my eyes to start looking closely on the bottles of other types of juices, I'm sure its just a matter of time.

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        • #19
          Re: Stuff that restuarants in China use to make their food tasty

          Originally posted by c1ue View Post
          The lesson is: being poor sucks.

          I agree, I suspect that the adulterated food is actually being encourage to keep inflation low and prevent an uprising from the poor. When China had famine in the past, people ate mud and dirt just to feel "full".

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          • #20
            Re: Stuff that restuarants in China use to make their food tasty

            removed wise-ass, unnecessary comment

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            • #21
              Arsenic-Laced Apple Juice Flowing From China?

              http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/0...ng-from-china/


              To the long list of things that worry Food & Water Watch, add a river of apple juice coming from China and the high arsenic levels found in that flow.


              That combo was enough to cause F&WW Thursday to call upon Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Commissioner Margaret Hamburg to set a tolerance level for heavy metals like arsenic in apple products. The national environmental group also wants stepped up testing on imported foods.

              The request for FDA action came after F&WW and its partner, the Empire State Consumer Project, announced the results of tests by Paradigm Environmental Services showing Mott's Apple Juice with arsenic levels of 55 parts per billion.

              The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) limits arsenic in public drinking water to 10 parts per billion, a level that has forced some communities to invest millions on treatment to cut existing levels.

              According to F&WW, more than 70 percent of the apple juice consumed in the United States now comes from the People's Republic of China, where the government has acknowledged a problem enforcing a new food safety law. F&WW also reports that China makes wide use of arsenic-based pesticides in farming.

              In a letter to Hamburg, F&WW's Wenonah Hauter and Empire State's Judy Braiman say apple juice should come in for special attention because it "is regularly consumed by children."

              "We find it unconscionable that FDA has not established tolerance levels for arsenic and other heavy metals in the foods we consume, especially for foods that are staples in children's diets," they wrote.

              F&WW began drawing attention to potential dangers of food from China last month, especially juice, candy and canned fruit consumed by American children. According to the group, China's food exports to the U.S. have tripled over the past decade to nearly 4 billion pounds of food in 2010 with a value of $5 billion.

              Less than 2 percent of imported food is inspected by FDA.

              The arsenic levels produced by the F&WW-Empire State-Paradigm tests exceeded those found in apple juice by the St. Petersburg Times in March 2010. The Florida newspaper reported levels of 35 parts per billion.

              Mott's, an American company with a history dating back to the 1840s, has not commented on the high arsenic levels found in its apple juice. FDA, which has previously expressed concerned about arsenic levels above 23 parts per billion, also has yet to comment on the uptick that may be occurring from Chinese apple juice
              Chinese foodstuff is everywhere!

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              • #22
                Re: Stuff that restuarants in China use to make their food tasty

                Amazing. Good food is cheap actually. Just a little labor intensive. Since we are a society of morons, most of the apple trees are crab apples. The big ones are just left on the ground and have worms and stuff(nothing a knife doesn't cure in 5 seconds). Even so the crab apples can be steamed for the juice. Those mulberry trees make such as mess too don't they? They sure do make good cider though. That just scratches the surface. Edible landscape people. Stop buying some of this crap. If you happen to be on a property with those ubiquitous crab apple trees, graft in the apples you want with a nice established root stock.

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                • #23
                  Re: Stuff that restuarants in China use to make their food tasty

                  Originally posted by touchring View Post
                  I agree, I suspect that the adulterated food is actually being encourage to keep inflation low and prevent an uprising from the poor. When China had famine in the past, people ate mud and dirt just to feel "full".
                  As I was reading this thread, I had two thoughts in rapid succession: 1) Soylent Green; 2) Malthus. I'm not saying these thoughts were rational.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Arsenic-Laced Apple Juice Flowing From China?

                    But global free trade was supposed to be the shizzle! Bwahhhhhhhh

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