Wall St protest gaining strengh?

[Mega]

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/09/30/u...n-wall-street/

[seanm123]

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Here is a video of NYPD crowd control practicing for this protest and others. The Zucotti park (Liberty Park) area is all barricaded in, not easy to get in or out. Once the Unions join in there won't be much room by Zucotti park or on Wall St.

I wonder if Mayor Bloomberg will allow the NYPD to send in the horses to trample them after they tear gas the protesters?

[*T*]

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Radiohead have said they will play there. That will attract one hell of a lot of peops.

[seanm123]

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I know some people going tonight more middle aged crowd. If the middle joins
in on this protest then the the tear gas, riot shields and horses will come out.

Bloomberg stated today.

“We’ll See” If The City Will Let Occupy Wall Street Continue

New Yorkers need "to help the banks" was Mayor Michael Bloomberg's message to the Occupy Wall Street crowd in his weekly radio appearance on the John Gambling show. "The protesters are protesting against people who make $40-50,000 a year and are struggling to make ends meet. That's the bottom line," Bloomberg said, presumably meaning service workers on Wall Street, adding that "we all" share blame for taking on too much risk, not just the financial industry.
"And people in this day and age need support for their employers. If the banks don't go out and make loans we will not come out of our economic problems, we will not have jobs so anything we can do that's responsible to help the banks do that is what we need."
Asked if there's an "end-game" for the protesters and if they will be allowed to stay in Zuccotti Park, which is privately owned but open to the public, Bloomberg said, "We'll see.
"You know people have a right to protest but we also have to make sure that people who don't want to protest can go down the streets unmolested. We have to make sure that while you can say what you want to say, people who want to say something very different have a right to say that as well. That's what's great about this country."
Warning of "other societal concerns," offering sanitation as his example without elaborating, he then skipped down memory lane and away from the question to recall protests on Wall St. during the Vietnam War. His conclusion: "when the Vietnam vets came back we didn't treat them the way they deserve to be treated."

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...oomberg_28.php

[dcarrigg]

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Radiohead have said they will play there. That will attract one hell of a lot of peops.

Occupy Boston looks to perhaps be pretty big. It starts tonight.

There was already an anti-BoA protest scheduled that they are planning to join. One group will march from the Commons to BoA. The other will march from the Fed building to BoA. I do like the symbolism of the latter.

They are planning to camp outside of the Fed building. We'll see if that works.

At any rate, with the way the Red Sox (baseball) just fell apart, there's sure to be some angry folks out-and-about.

[Mega]

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This is "68" all over again, this IS the Civil rights of the 21st centry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU3Dt...eature=related
FWD to 1.30 in & LISTERN to the man!
Mike

[dcarrigg]

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Occupy Boston looks to perhaps be pretty big. It starts tonight.

There was already an anti-BoA protest scheduled that they are planning to join. One group will march from the Commons to BoA. The other will march from the Fed building to BoA. I do like the symbolism of the latter.

They are planning to camp outside of the Fed building. We'll see if that works.

At any rate, with the way the Red Sox (baseball) just fell apart, there's sure to be some angry folks out-and-about.

I think it had more folks at it than the initial Wall St. protest...

[Slimprofits]

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It did, but as you acknowledged, you are conflating two separate groups.

The anti-BoA protest was organized by a group called the "Take Back the City Alliance". If you look at their website, there is no mention of Occupy New York, Occupy Boston, etc.

[BigBagel]

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As a retired NYPDer I like to give the benefit of the doubt to my brothers and sisters in blue but that pepper spray incident seemed a bit bizarre and over the top. The inspector seemed out of line with his spray and run tactics.
I haven't seen down there to see the protest itself but my daughter works nearby and reports there's about a 100 unkempt people there. They occupy what amounts to an open square. People do play chess there and it's usually occupied by food vendors. I guess while these people are there you have to find a chess game or your favorite food vendor elsewhere.

[Sutter Cane]

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As a retired NYPDer I like to give the benefit of the doubt to my brothers and sisters in blue but that pepper spray incident seemed a bit bizarre and over the top. The inspector seemed out of line with his spray and run tactics.
I haven't seen down there to see the protest itself but my daughter works nearby and reports there's about a 100 unkempt people there. They occupy what amounts to an open square. People do play chess there and it's usually occupied by food vendors. I guess while these people are there you have to find a chess game or your favorite food vendor elsewhere.

While I in theory support the protesters - anybody protesting the banks and Wall Street are OK in my book - I can't help but think that the style of protest seems antiquated. I saw a comment on another website that was pretty much exactly what I was thinking:

Arent there Forbes lists for the top %.00001 dynastic aristocrats? Arent there Google maps? Arent there flash mobs? Arent there public records that list the board of directors for the top 500 corporations? Arent there Google maps? Arent there flash mobs? 500 people sitting on a street may have one impact. 500 people showing up at some ones house might have another. Then your list might get more specific, and have more of a narrative and more of an impact.

Of course, this is obviously some armchair quarterbacking from some guy safe on the internet and not actually protesting in meatspace. I'd be there if I wasn't thousands of miles away. But it seems like something like this would be a lot more interesting.

Taibbi had a great article a few years ago about a similar attempt, where some protesters were bussed into a rich neighborhood, but the protest fizzled because they lost their nerve once they got to the wealthy enclave. I tried to find it to attach a link, but the search terms are too similar and all I can get are more recent articles about the current protests. Maybe it was a chapter in one of his books, I don't know. I'll keep searching for the article...

[dcarrigg]

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It did, but as you acknowledged, you are conflating two separate groups.

The anti-BoA protest was organized by a group called the "Take Back the City Alliance". If you look at their website, there is no mention of Occupy New York, Occupy Boston, etc.

True, but did you ever think you'd see this outside a federal reserve building?

[NFN_NLN]

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This is "68" all over again, this IS the Civil rights of the 21st centry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU3Dt...eature=related
FWD to 1.30 in & LISTERN to the man!
Mike

You can control where the video starts by modifying the link; this will take you right to 1m30s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU3DtBq1uDA&t=1m30s

[lektrode]

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slowly, but ever so surely, the the lamestream media/FIRE propaganda onion layers are peeling off...
methinks this is why INSIDE JOB wasnt more heavily promoted - had it been, there would've been much LOUDER protests over a year ago - 'they' clearly didnt want the masses to see that movie, otherwise it would've been top of the mind as were inconvenient truth and supersize me clearly are - even today, when i ask people if they've ever heard of INSIDE JOB, not even 1 in 20 have - the other 2 movies?
100% know of them or have seen one if not both
so something is clearly different when it comes to what the lamestream media _wants_ to publicize...

and considering the angst boston fans are feeling lately - am surprised things are as calm at the boston fed as they seem to be, eh dc?

[swgprop]

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True, but did you ever think you'd see this outside a federal reserve building?

Brings a tear to my eye, I can only hope it is just the beginning.

[lektrode]

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...New Yorkers need "to help the banks" was Mayor Michael Bloomberg's message to the Occupy Wall Street crowd in his weekly radio appearance on the John Gambling show. "The protesters are protesting against people who make $40-50,000 a year and are struggling to make ends meet. That's the bottom line," Bloomberg said,

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
pure unadultered BS Propaganda from Hizonah...
The Bottom Line?

bloomberg is only worried that this 'little movement' might succeed in taking a whack at and chunk out of _his_ action there in lower manhattan!

HILARIOUS!

... presumably meaning service workers on Wall Street, adding that "we all" share blame for taking on too much risk, not just the financial industry.

and oh yeah baybee, and am i pert near GD sick of listening to/reading _that_ salt in the wound of my cratered income...
WHOS HE MEAN "we... all share blame for taking on too much risk" ?

'we' who leveraged BILLIONS ON BAD DERIVITIVE BETS?
'we' who wrote counterparty risk contracts they neither had the capital, nor the legal basis to even write the paper for and then lost yet more billions, soon to be TRILLIONS of debt transfered to The Rest of US?

HOW ABOUT 'we' WHO GOT PAID BILLIONS TO GUT AND SELL OFF THE PRODUCTIVE ECONOMY, got paid billions for that, then lost trillions of OUR money making stupid/greedy bets that it would continue to infinity and _then_ at the brink of bankuptcy, gets bailed out by The Rest of US, and altho they pert near LOST EVERYTHING, the very next year, PAID THEMSELVES YET MORE BILLIONS, for having 'saved the system' ?

is that the 'we' yer talkin about?

FU bloomberg!


how about the We The People who, thru the 'great boom' of the 2000's _didnt_ live beyond our means...
or how about the We The People who _didnt_ buy too much house,
or how about the We The People who _didnt_ wind up our credit cards...
or how about the We The People who _didnt_ buy too much car...

and how about WE the people who actually DONT SPEND more than we make and sacrifice, scrimp, do without some/alotof lifes everyday niceties, never mind necessities, so we might have a _brighter_ future and so we _save_ some of our hard earned _wages_ and then we get the INSULT ON TOP OF INJURY by the banks paying us 0.01% on a 'savings' account?

while ZIRP _steals_ our capital right out the same accounts you bastards are supposed to be holding for 'safe keeping' ???

HUH!!!?

what? we the backbone of the productive economy are supposed to feel sorry for the harried financial services 50grand/year people, while their billionaire employers, aka yer buddies, offer to pay a smidge more to assuage some fawned/faux guilt trip?

"And people in this day and age need support for their employers. If the banks don't go out and make loans we will not come out of our economic problems, we will not have jobs so anything we can do that's responsible to help the banks do that is what we need."
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...oomberg_28.php

what an A---ole, i cant believe he had the balls to make that statement....

methinks we might yet see an 'Occupy the financial district near you' movement goin and thats what ole bloomy is _really_ worried about - why - GASP!!!!
we might even see the return of Populist Politix, american style
i just hope they (we) can keep it going till next november, since thats what it'll really take to have any real effect, wot?