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    an email from a reader sent to bill fleckenstein

    "The one thing that nobody mentions is the speculative buyer/investor who would buy multiple homes for the quick FLIP. Well, I can tell you firsthand that these are the type of people who killed the housing market. I live in a new community in So Cal (Yorba Linda) and am also a board member on our homeowners' association [HOA]. "Out of 62 new homes (finished in 2005), we currently have eight foreclosures (and probably two more, very soon). One realtor/investor owned three of these. He also owned four additional units in another neighborhood (built by the same builder) close to ours. We have two other investors who own two each. (These are all $2 million homes, or shall I say were $2 million homes.)
    "Guess what? They all got loans from Countrywide. Not just one loan -- they went back for seconds and thirds on each of the properties owned. At present, all of the properties are encumbered by 20%-30% of current value. (Most had loans that were over $2.2 million.) They not only screwed themselves but also all the other honest homeowners in our HOA/community. I blame these people and the GREED to make quick money. It started with the builders -- who knew damned well that these buyers were investors -- and ended with the banks loaning on these properties with the Alt-A, liar loans, and NO-MONEY down, with $10,000 back at closing.
    Countrywide, Hello?
    "The funny thing about all of these foreclosures: We can't even get Countrywide to claim the properties. They sit vacant, with no 'For Sale' signs. No maintenance on the properties, and no HOA dues have been paid by the bank. The HOA has been maintaining these properties for some time now. (We even have so-called house sitters in two of them who don't pay rent and are now sub-renting rooms out.) I guess we have to foreclose on Countrywide. Tell Angelo we said thanks. Countrywide, please claim your foreclosed houses. Greed at its best."

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    the HOAs can put a lien against the properties for dues owed. The home won't transfer title until those dues get settled, so the HOA won't be completely out. Of course, they may not see the money for umptisquat years, but what the hell.

    Speaking of squatters, I think that phenom is coming down the pike at some point. With everyone and no one owning the rights to the foreclosure, there may not be enough sheriffs or deputies to kick everyone out.

    This is going to get exponentially ugly in a hurry, I think.
    It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye!

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      If Countrywide has already foreclosed the HOA not only can file a lien, they should. They should also foreclose on those liens so that they can take control of the properties.

      Note that after Countrwide forecloses their loan no longer exists. As such the lien filed by the HOA would likely be in first position. So a buyer at the HOA foreclosure could potentially buy a $2M house for the few thousand owed to the HOA at the time of sale.

      Because HOA foreclosures can result in such a terrific loss of equity to the current owner, CA did recently pass a law which gives the owner 90 days after the sale to pay up and take the property back. Countrywide's REO department is so underwater it wouldn't surprise me if they missed it completely if the buyer sat quietly.

      On the other hand if Countrywide has not yet foreclosed the HOA should wait, as their lien will be wiped out when Countrywide's senior lien is foreclosed on.

      Sean
      ForeclosureRadar.com

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