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  • BNY and State Street accused of 'stealing billions' from pension funds

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/44257034

    Published: Wednesday, 24 Aug 2011 | 12:08 PM ET
    By: Margo D. Beller
    Special to CNBC.com
    Harry Markopolos, an independent financial fraud investigator and the subject of a film, "Chasing Madoff," opening Friday, told CNBC Wednesday "State Street and Bank of New York each stole billions of dollars from pension funds around the country, three-tenths of one percent off every transaction," he said.

    Pension funds are often major players in international investments and need foreign currency to complete those overseas transactions. Banks typically supply those currency services as part of a package of services for the pension funds' business.

    "If you’re a credit card holder and you go to Europe, and your bank charges you 3 percent for a foreign currency transaction, well, that costs them maybe three basis points" so they get a huge markup, he pointed out. He said the two banks hid the charges in what was contracted as a free service. Other banks, such as Capital One , have done away with forex fees.

    With $4.7 trillion in foreign exchange trades every day, no government regulatory oversight and everything over the counter, forex is "a perfect recipe for fraud," he said. There are legal actions already taking place against the banks in California and Virginia but "it’s a 50-state case. It will be many billions [of dollars] by the time it's over."

    The banks have denied wrongdoing in those cases.

    Markopolos said he bases his assertions on the math: "The investment managers were saying they’re reporting this much and the pension funds were saying we’re receiving this much. The gap should’ve only been fees but there was something extra missing, 30 basis points for currency overcharges."

    Markopolos said the Madoff case was "a total wakeup call" for the SEC, which now has more financial examiners to go with all the lawyers. It "remains to be seen if [the SEC] becomes a credible law enforcement agency. If they’re not doing big cases 18 months from now, we have a big problem."


    Any number of tales of massive corruption are revealed each week, but more important to the operators of the Bullhorn is to interview each and every person that was 'affected' by the Earthquake in Virginia yesterday.

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    Re: BNY and State Street accused of 'stealing billions' from pension funds

    But but but...it was only 30 basis points - that's only 0.3%
    /sarc

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    • #3
      Re: BNY and State Street accused of 'stealing billions' from pension funds

      I've a friend on the inside at State Street that swears up and down the fund managers knew they were being charged. We shall see.

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        Re: BNY and State Street accused of 'stealing billions' from pension funds

        Originally posted by c1ue View Post
        But but but...it was only 30 basis points - that's only 0.3%
        /sarc
        Yeah, what's the whining about? Three-tenths of a percent of two hundred million is only 600,000.

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          Re: BNY and State Street accused of 'stealing billions' from pension funds

          Originally posted by Thailandnotes
          Yeah, what's the whining about? Three-tenths of a percent of two hundred million is only 600,000.
          So you're saying only $200 million in transactions was involved? Where did you see this number?

          Because the article noted:
          With $4.7 trillion in foreign exchange trades every day, no government regulatory oversight and everything over the counter, forex is "a perfect recipe for fraud," he said.
          $200 million would be 0.004% if just 1 days forex transactions.

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            Re: BNY and State Street accused of 'stealing billions' from pension funds

            The real question is about the regulatory authority, or the seeming continuing lack of it.

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            • #7
              Re: BNY and State Street accused of 'stealing billions' from pension funds

              Markopolos is claiming 20% of Bank of NY's income, 30% of State Street's income could be completely fraudulent.

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              • #8
                Re: BNY and State Street accused of 'stealing billions' from pension funds

                Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
                Markopolos is claiming 20% of Bank of NY's income, 30% of State Street's income could be completely fraudulent.
                http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...015217494.html
                The Justice Department and New York's attorney general filed separate civil lawsuits late Tuesday alleging that BNY Mellon systematically overcharged investors for currency trades, defrauding or misleading them in a decade-long scheme. The suits seek a total of more than $2 billion in damages from the bank.

                The lawsuits allege BNY Mellon deceived clients by telling them the bank would provide competitive foreign-exchange rates. Instead, the lawsuits allege, the bank gave clients at or near the least-favorable end of the daily trading range. The New York attorney general alleged that the bank benefited by taking the other side of the conversion and pocketing the difference between the least-favorable client rate and the bank's better price.

                The U.S. attorney complaint cites a 2004 BNY Mellon email in which an executive said the bank needed to protect the way it carried out the currency trades. "This is currently our revenue and it should remain so; we all understand how the bonus pool funds," the executive wrote.


                http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldne..._Pensions.html

                In a King World News exclusive interview, the man who brought down Bernie Madoff’s $65 billion Ponzi scheme informed KWN, “Bank of New York is going to go down, Eric. Between Bank of New York Mellon and State Street, these two institutions have stolen between $6 to $10 billion from tens of millions of Americans retirement savings accounts. It’s been a hell of a crime spree for the bank, but now they are being brought to justice.”

                [..]

                Markopolos also discussed how Americans are ripped off by banks when they travel, “Every American who travels overseas is a victim of foreign currency fraud. There is a bank cartel out there and they charge 3% foreign exchange transaction fees. They are charging people one hundred times more than what it costs them to trade foreign exchange. So they are stealing from you every day, in every way.

                But finally, I think, thanks to these cases that we have against Bank of New York and State Street, you are seeing two firms break away from cartel pricing. I would like to congratulate them. Capital One offers zero foreign transaction fees, so they are treating you honestly.

                The other one that is treating you honestly is American Express for the platinum and black card holders, there are no foreign currency fees. The rest of the credit card companies are out there to steal from you.”
                Last edited by Slimprofits; October 11, 2011, 05:08 PM. Reason: poor formatting

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                  Re: BNY and State Street accused of 'stealing billions' from pension funds

                  http://www.law.com/jsp/cc/PubArticle...ew_York_Mellon

                  What's all this have to do with Markopolos? According to a nice scoop by The Wall Street Journal back in February, both FX Analytics and Associates Against FX Insider Trading are shell companies that were set up in Delaware shortly before the suits were filed. And the whistleblowers have something else in common, the WSJ reported: Both shell companies are backed by Markopolos, who began working with insiders at the banks and investigating the currency trades as long ago as 2005.
                  Last edited by Slimprofits; October 11, 2011, 05:08 PM. Reason: poor formatting

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                    Re: BNY and State Street accused of 'stealing billions' from pension funds

                    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...atestHeadlines


                  • OCTOBER 12, 2011Secret Informant Surfaces in BNY Currency Probe

                    For a decade, Grant Wilson toiled on a small trading desk at Bank of New York Mellon Corp. in Pittsburgh, buying and selling currencies for the bank's biggest clients.

                    Mr. Wilson also had another job: For the last two of those years he was a secret whistleblower, assisting currency-trading investigations of BNY Mellon, according to people familiar with the matter.

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