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    rampant fraud, rape & pillage at the top . . . what's a paper to do. Pull back the covers, feign surprise, never connect the dots . . .

    Finger-Pointing in the Fog

    By GRETCHEN MORGENSON

    UNEARTHING the story of the financial crisis is like conducting an archaeological dig. New shards keep emerging from the dust.

    Here’s an interesting find. The Securities and Exchange Commission has sued Stifel Financial, a regional brokerage firm in St. Louis, accusing it of fraud in connection with complex debt securities it recommended to five Wisconsin school districts in 2006. Rather than settle with the commission, as many firms do, Stifel is defending the matter.

    The S.E.C. sued Stifel on Aug. 10 because the firm advised the school districts to buy the three ill-fated securities, which the regulator said were unsuitably risky for unsophisticated investors. David W. Noack, the firm’s sales representative, misled school district officials when he told them that the deals, involving corporate bonds and rated AA-minus, were nearly as safe as United States Treasuries, the S.E.C. said. The Wisconsin school districts lost tens of millions of dollars on a $200 million investment, most of which was borrowed.

    Stifel earned $1.6 million in commissions. But it did not create the securities — and this is where the case gets murky and interesting. Royal Bank of Canada built the failed investments, using parameters set out by Stifel and secretly profiting on the deal, Stifel said. The S.E.C. has not sued the bank.

    In a lawsuit against Royal Bank of Canada, Stifel points to internal bank documents indicating a $5.4 million profit on two of the Wisconsin deals. Stifel also maintains that Royal Bank of Canada hid these and the third deal’s profits and had undisclosed conflicts as the deals’ originator. As such, RBC failed to abide by the contract with the school districts requiring “complete expense and fee transparency and disclosure,” Stifel said.

    Kevin Foster, a Royal Bank of Canada spokesman, called Stifel’s allegations meritless and said the firm was trying to deflect blame to others for its central role in the troubled investments. “We never misrepresented our estimated profit to Stifel or the districts,” Mr. Foster said in a statement. “Stifel’s math is flat-out wrong and based on erroneous assumptions. The transactions were not profitable to RBC.”
    Stifel and a lawyer for Mr. Noack declined to comment.

    In 2005, the school districts faced a $400 million shortfall. Mr. Noack had been financial adviser to the districts for decades; he suggested they borrow money and invest in securities rated AA-minus that would generate more in yield than they had to pay in interest.

    This becomes maddeningly complex: The bank from which the school districts borrowed — Depfa, of Ireland — told Stifel that it preferred collateralized debt obligations as the securities against which it would lend money to the districts. Stifel asked for proposals from banks. Royal Bank of Canada won the assignment and began to construct synthetic collateralized debt obligations linked to about 100 corporate bonds. It worked with ACA Management and UBS to select the underlying portfolios.

    Depfa lent the money to the districts on a “nonrecourse” basis, meaning that the districts would not have to repay the loan if the securities bought with the borrowed funds defaulted. This arrangement, Stifel argues, shows that Depfa, a sophisticated institution, believed that the investment was not high-risk. Under the deal’s terms, Depfa could seize the collateral if the security’s asset values fell to 95 cents on the dollar and did not return to $1.01 within 30 days.

    It didn’t take long for the deals to go south, and for the school districts to lose their $37 million investment. Depfa seized the underlying collateral supporting its $163 million loan. Lawsuits began flying.

    Once again, we see the same toxic ingredients that have appeared repeatedly in the aftermath of the crisis: collateralized debt obligations, credit default swaps, ruinous leverage, an overreliance on credit ratings, greed and extreme naďveté.

    But the case raises questions about a largely unexplored part of the collateralized debt obligation mania — whether Wall Street firms putting together these deals knew how to game the ratings agency models and profited by selecting debt issues to suit their purposes.

    If, for example, a firm was designing an instrument to be used to bet against the underlying collateral — Goldman Sachs’s famous Abacus deal was created so the hedge fund manager John Paulson could short risky mortgages — a firm could assign debt issues to the deal that carried overly optimistic or misplaced ratings. Later, when reality intervened and the ratings were cut, those betting against the underlying collateral would prosper.

    Because ratings agencies were slow to recognize the severe deterioration in mortgages in 2006 and 2007, taking advantage of this tardiness turned out to be highly profitable to those taking a negative view.

    The Royal Bank of Canada concoctions were not created for the purpose of betting against them. And they contained corporate issues which the ratings agencies have historically been better at assessing.

    Nevertheless, in its lawsuit, Stifel accuses the bank of increasing its profits by gaming the model used by Standard & Poor’s, the ratings agency on the deal. “RBC understood the mathematical models used by S.& P. to assign ratings on synthetic C.D.O.’s,” the firm maintained. “Armed with this information, RBC constructed the reference portfolios with the objective of maximizing its profits while technically achieving the AA-minus rating from S.& P.”

    Stifel was heavily involved in these deals, to be sure. And this is the only suit brought against Royal Bank of Canada for C.D.O.’s that it created, said Mark Kirsch, co-chairman of litigation practice at Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher, who represents the bank.

    But there appears to be plenty of blame to go around, as has been typical throughout the crisis. The S.E.C. said its investigation is continuing. It would do well to examine closely any allegations of gaming ratings agency models.

    In the meantime, the Wisconsin Circuit Court in Milwaukee will decide whether Stifel will be held liable for the school districts’ losses. Who will prevail in Stifel’s battle with the S.E.C. remains to be seen.

    This much, however, is clear: Lawsuits filed against institutions involved in the credit mania continue to reveal much about practices that led to titanic losses in this crisis. Because we still don’t know the whole story of this mess, even four years after it erupted, how these lawsuits play out will help determine whether such an episode ever happens again.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/bu...r=1&ref=global

    Hey Gretchen, may I suggest you start your 'education' by reading "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" to see how unknowable all of the above really was . . . of course you would then be working elsewhere, if working at all.

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    Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

    Originally posted by don View Post
    rampant fraud, rape & pillage at the top . . . what's a paper to do. Pull back the covers, feign surprise, never connect the dots . . .

    Finger-Pointing in the Fog

    By GRETCHEN MORGENSON

    UNEARTHING the story of the financial crisis is like conducting an archaeological dig. New shards keep emerging from the dust.

    Here’s an interesting find...[/I]
    Interesting find indeed. The fraud started with this:

    ...The Wisconsin school districts lost tens of millions of dollars on a $200 million investment, most of which was borrowed...In 2005, the school districts faced a $400 million shortfall. Mr. Noack had been financial adviser to the districts for decades; he suggested they borrow money and invest in securities rated AA-minus that would generate more in yield than they had to pay in interest...

    Maybe School Board Trustees should stick with running the school system. Is this always the standard solution for every financial problem in the good ol' US of A...borrow your way to prosperity??? Is there anybody left in the USA that doesn't believe they deserve a riskless "free lunch"??? I hate to sound unsympathetic, but I put this School Board in the same catagory as someone answering a get-rich-quick letter from Nigeria...

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    • #3
      Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

      Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
      Interesting find indeed. The fraud started with this:

      ...The Wisconsin school districts lost tens of millions of dollars on a $200 million investment, most of which was borrowed...In 2005, the school districts faced a $400 million shortfall. Mr. Noack had been financial adviser to the districts for decades; he suggested they borrow money and invest in securities rated AA-minus that would generate more in yield than they had to pay in interest...

      Maybe School Board Trustees should stick with running the school system. Is this always the standard solution for every financial problem in the good ol' US of A...borrow your way to prosperity??? Is there anybody left in the USA that doesn't believe they deserve a riskless "free lunch"??? I hate to sound unsympathetic, but I put this School Board in the same catagory as someone answering a get-rich-quick letter from Nigeria...
      I was fairly certain if this was included in the post it would be hijacked into an anti-pension rant. No surprise there, deed done. 98% of the article is about how these dimwits were manipulated by finance. Nice misdirection response. Ever consider working for the paper?

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      • #4
        Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

        Originally posted by don View Post
        I was fairly certain if this was included in the post it would be hijacked into an anti-pension rant. No surprise there, deed done. 98% of the article is about how these dimwits were manipulated by finance. Nice misdirection response. Ever consider working for the paper?
        It's not so much a rant against pensions and government workers so much as it's decrying the utter incompetence of the government workers managing the budget. Per the article, the school districts levered themselves up 5.55 times.

        Yes, the FIRE economy players were, as usual, crooked and should have advised against levering up. However, complicated financial instruments aside, shouldn't the government worker have had at least some common sense to not lever up? Aren't the government money guys supposed to know at least the fundamentals of finance and accounting?

        While much of the FIRE economy should be dismantled and thrown into jail, we should not be giving free passes to every person or entity suckered. The government bozo(s) who agreed to the leveraged deal should be fired with prejudice.

        This reminds me of an incident I once had at a post office when I went to buy stamps. The computers were down and the post office worker I dealt with could not figure out how much change to give me when I paid with a five dollar bill. I'm not talking about calculating change in one's head, either: the postal worker couldn't figure out the mathematics even with pencil and paper. At some point, we have to stop making excuses for some government workers and recognize that some workers should be fired and some salaries and benefits should be cut.

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          Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

          Originally posted by Milton Kuo View Post
          It's not so much a rant against pensions and government workers so much as it's decrying the utter incompetence of the government workers managing the budget. Per the article, the school districts levered themselves up 5.55 times.
          ....
          .... At some point, we have to stop making excuses for some government workers and recognize that some workers should be fired and some salaries and benefits should be cut.

          +1


          i'll settle for FIRED/s__tcanned...
          NO SEVERANCE, NO BENEFITS, NO ACCRUED VACATION TIME PAYOUTS either!
          the level of incompetence seems to be increasing daily and exponentially and this is PRECISELY WHY THE FIREMAN HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY!

          i think jack welch of GE fame had it precisely correct when he instituted a plan to fire 5% of GE's workforce _every_ year (is how i recall it went)
          the .gov should function exactly the same, and the unions/seniority/tenure BE DAMNED!

          and it starts with TERM LIMITS IN CONGRESS: you want to run for office?
          fine - you reach your term limit and you are OUT, WITH ***NO PENSION*** and you go back to work, like The Rest of US

          the very thot of some of these lyin bastards getting elected once and then spending the rest of the lives in office MAKES MY BLOOD BOIL!

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          • #6
            Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

            Originally posted by don View Post
            I was fairly certain if this was included in the post it would be hijacked into an anti-pension rant. No surprise there, deed done. 98% of the article is about how these dimwits were manipulated by finance. Nice misdirection response. Ever consider working for the paper?
            Most of the time you and I have an interesting and often entertaining exchange on this site don. This is not one of those times.
            1. Point me to my "anti-pension rant". I am having great difficulty finding it. I don't even think I used the word "pension" in my post.
            2. The reason that the FIREmen have been able to sucker in so many people is because so many "public servants" forgot their fiduciary responsibility to their constituents. Where in hell did these School Board Trustees [yes, TRUSTees] come up with the idea that they should borrow their way to prosperity? Did they learn that from their parents? Somehow I doubt it.
            3. Let me ask you this: If your child came to you and said they were short of money to meet their annual spending expectation, would you tell them to go out and borrow some money? In hopes the income that can be generated can close their structural deficit?
            4. If you answered "No" to the above, then why are you willing to give these Trustees a free pass for their reckless and idiotic behaviour?
            5. Finally, placing the blame entirely on the FIRE interests is sort of like blaming Budweiser advertising for every drunk driver accident. The FIRE interests are far from blameless, but it takes two to tango...
            Last edited by GRG55; August 21, 2011, 11:08 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

              Originally posted by Milton Kuo View Post
              It's not so much a rant against pensions and government workers so much as it's decrying the utter incompetence of the government workers managing the budget. Per the article, the school districts levered themselves up 5.55 times.

              Yes, the FIRE economy players were, as usual, crooked and should have advised against levering up. However, complicated financial instruments aside, shouldn't the government worker have had at least some common sense to not lever up? Aren't the government money guys supposed to know at least the fundamentals of finance and accounting?

              While much of the FIRE economy should be dismantled and thrown into jail, we should not be giving free passes to every person or entity suckered. The government bozo(s) who agreed to the leveraged deal should be fired with prejudice.
              Not sure whether I agree with you. We do not teach finance in school, let alone the difference between credit and debit based finance. If people are adverse to debt, it is likely only because they adopted that attitude from their parents.

              When I went to University, the Finance courses I took only taught valuation models for examining business, and how to tell whether or not your business would do well with more leverage. When I asked one of my professors about running a company without growing on credit he just gave me a fatherly smile and explained that was an old fashioned way to doing things that did not apply in today's world. I didn't like the leverage model and have tried to stay away from it, with some success.

              Hmm, now I sound old

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              • #8
                Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

                “The Hooking of Whitefish Bay” is chapter 1 in Les Leopold's book, The Looting of America. It is available free through google books and makes for an interesting read. It explains David W. Noack's role in the disaster and makes clear his level of knowledge was pretty low. What I found interesting was that the school districts were going to make 1.8 million per year if everything worked out, where as they could have made 1.5 million investing in treasuries. Not much reward for a lot of risk.

                http://books.google.com/books?id=oS7...ooking&f=false

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                • #9
                  Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

                  Originally posted by brent217 View Post
                  When I asked one of my professors about running a company without growing on credit he just gave me a fatherly smile and explained that was an old fashioned way to doing things that did not apply in today's world. I didn't like the leverage model and have tried to stay away from it, with some success.

                  Hmm, now I sound old
                  Nope.

                  To me you sound intelligent, wise and able to think your own thoughts independant of the herd

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                  • #10
                    Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

                    Originally posted by bagginz View Post
                    Nope.

                    To me you sound intelligent, wise and able to think your own thoughts independant of the herd
                    +1

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                    • #11
                      Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

                      Originally posted by brent217 View Post
                      Not sure whether I agree with you. We do not teach finance in school, let alone the difference between credit and debit based finance. If people are adverse to debt, it is likely only because they adopted that attitude from their parents.
                      If you're talking about the average person not knowing anything about finance, I would agree with you. However, for the school officials who were entrusted to properly manage millions of dollars, is it asking too much that someone know something about investing, financial instruments, risk management, and leverage? If anything, the trustees should have at least known that such massive leverage is not suitable for funds where capital preservation is probably the most important goal.

                      When I went to University, the Finance courses I took only taught valuation models for examining business, and how to tell whether or not your business would do well with more leverage. When I asked one of my professors about running a company without growing on credit he just gave me a fatherly smile and explained that was an old fashioned way to doing things that did not apply in today's world. I didn't like the leverage model and have tried to stay away from it, with some success.

                      Hmm, now I sound old
                      Business has changed in that regard. However, if a business levers up in the pursuit of steroid-induced growth and goes bust, only the investors, who voluntarily risked their capital, lose. [N.B.: Unless it's one of the FIRE economy's systemically dangerous institutions.] However, in the case of these school districts, the tax payers now have to pay for the incompetence of the trustees, who are supposed to shepherd the funds away from the wolves in the FIRE economy. The tax payers never volunteered to allow their tax dollars to be wagered at the FIRE economy's three card monte table.

                      Yes, the FIRE economy was crooked and they should take most of the blame. However, if the trustees cannot avoid this simple scam, then they likely would not be able to fulfill their fiduciary duties even if all FIRE economy players were honest.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

                        Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                        Most of the time you and I have an interesting and often entertaining exchange on this site don.
                        My reasons for posting this piece are quite clear, the role of the flagship media in misdirecting the reader. What poses as an expose is really a coverup. I was looking forward to yours and others comments on that.

                        A post that focused on the often corrupt and poorly equipped pension managers would be a welcome airing of this aspect of the meltdown here on the 'tulip. This thread wasn't meant to be it. (check out what happened to a recent RE thread I started that turned into an endless crossing guard debate. WFT?)
                        Last edited by don; August 22, 2011, 09:43 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

                          GRG55, here are the answers to your questions:

                          1. In today's climate, critics of our public institutions almost always suggest that the way to cut a deficit (here, the school board's $400 million shortfall) is to cut pensions. While I generally agree that public pensions have become too generous and need resetting, I think the "anti-pension rant" was a fair moniker for the type of charges you level.
                          2. Where did the Trustees get the idea that they could make money by borrowing money? From their advisor and from Stifel. It's in the article. The article doesn't mention the Trustee's parents and I doubt they had anything to do with it. A good reporter would be looking into connections between the advisor and Stifel, and would be asking how much the advisor was paid over the years. He/she would also find out if the advisor has been sued and, if not, why not. But then we all know that the structure of these institutional transactions --- an independent Trustee, an independent advisor, an outside law firm, and investment bank and the source bank --- are specifically designed to spread responsibilities so that not one of them can actually be held legally responsible.
                          3. If my child came to me in 2003 and asked to borrow money to buy a house with a 3% LTV, I would have told him he was stupid. Then two years later, after his friend made a 1000% return by buying the same house with a non-recourse note, I would have viewed as the stupid one. Borrowing on a non-recourse basis to buy an appreciating asset with high leverage is the classic way thousands of investors have made millions of dollars --- including people such as Trump and virtually all of the investment bankers pitching this deal to the schoold district. You are expecting the schoold district trustees to ignore all of that past performance and believe who? Who was there telling the district of the risks? I suspect nobody, which is what the suit is all about --- that Stifel did not properly disclose the risks. They may win or they may lose, but you really have to be in another world to be ignorant of how the system worked up until 2008.
                          4. See answer to #3. Identical behavior by other districts in earlier similar deals ---- which I am certain Stifel highlighted --- lead to significant profits with no perceivable risk (because the collateral was AA rated, how could it ever fall to 95% of par?). Really, you are ignoring the fact that for 50 years AA rated paper never traded at 95% of par, meaning that there was no perceivable risk in the transaction and a significant profit. And none other than the Fed Reserve Chairman was publically extolliing the virtues of "financial innovation" and the "great moderation". Again, I am certain Stifel made that part of its pitch, too.

                          Short answer: you are a Monday morning quarterback of the worst kind. Blame the victim for not being smart enough to see the fraud!

                          5. Budweiser sells beer and delivers what it promises. Stifel sold a risk free opportunity to earn extra income and did not deliver, not even close. The District lost its entire equity in the deal when the "impossible" happened -- AA rate securities traded below 95. And you don't have any suspicion that those securities were not, in fact, AA? And that Stifel or RBC didn't know that at the time it pitched the deal?

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                          • #14
                            Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

                            Originally posted by goodrich4bk View Post
                            2. Where did the Trustees get the idea that they could make money by borrowing money? From their advisor and from Stifel. It's in the article. The article doesn't mention the Trustee's parents and I doubt they had anything to do with it. A good reporter would be looking into connections between the advisor and Stifel, and would be asking how much the advisor was paid over the years. He/she would also find out if the advisor has been sued and, if not, why not. But then we all know that the structure of these institutional transactions --- an independent Trustee, an independent advisor, an outside law firm, and investment bank and the source bank --- are specifically designed to spread responsibilities so that not one of them can actually be held legally responsible.
                            The fraud was obvious and should be prosecuted.

                            The prospectus wasn't delivered until weeks after the deal was inked. (legal?)

                            No one could have read or understood it anyway.

                            The school districts were buying insurance on The Royal Bank of Canada's worst junk debt, sub-prime crap that Mr. Noack had told them was not part of the package.

                            The school district made it clear they wanted a low risk/preservation of capital investment and that's what they were told they were getting.

                            The deal was loaded with hidden fees.

                            Here's a link to the SEC complaint. The first two pages say it all...

                            http://www.sec.gov/litigation/compla.../comp22064.pdf

                            but they're not as poignant as “The Hooking of Whitefish.”

                            (see link in previous post)

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                              Re: Classic Times FIRE Duck & Cover - the Wisconsin School's Caper

                              Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
                              Interesting find indeed. The fraud started with this:

                              ...The Wisconsin school districts lost tens of millions of dollars on a $200 million investment, most of which was borrowed...In 2005, the school districts faced a $400 million shortfall. Mr. Noack had been financial adviser to the districts for decades; he suggested they borrow money and invest in securities rated AA-minus that would generate more in yield than they had to pay in interest...

                              Maybe School Board Trustees should stick with running the school system. Is this always the standard solution for every financial problem in the good ol' US of A...borrow your way to prosperity??? Is there anybody left in the USA that doesn't believe they deserve a riskless "free lunch"??? I hate to sound unsympathetic, but I put this School Board in the same catagory as someone answering a get-rich-quick letter from Nigeria...
                              No kidding! A school system borrowing money to invest? I'm surprise this was even legal. Doesn't anyone believe in EARNING their income anymore? "Psst, buddy. Have I got a deal for you." Ridiculous. Where have all the grown ups gone?

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