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  • Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

    question is for everyone, but I mention Eric because he's married to a Tawanese woman (IIRC), and spends some time in BC,

    What's your feeling about how much Chinese money comes into Canada vs the US, and about Chinese preferences in this regard?

    I'm trying to gauge how well Canada might weather a US recession - in the past Canadian recessions come in lockstep with US recessions, as the 2 economies are so tightly intertwined.

    If Asia can decouple from the US consumer, will Canada benefit disproportionately from the Asian influence? And are the trade volumes enough to cause any difference?

    EDIT:
    The elephant in the room is the US Treasury market of course - how far will China go to protect that investment? If they want to hold on to the capital gains on that bond portfolio at all costs, they may not shift much to Canada.

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    Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

    If the US goes, so does Aus,Can,Brit as well.
    Mike

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    • #3
      Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

      Spartacus,

      Taiwan is not a proxy for China, and especially w/ regards to BC.

      A lot of Hong Kong-nese 'emigrated' to Vancouver/Canada in the 1999 period when Hong Kong reverted to People's Republic of China control.

      It helped that citizenship could have been obtained with a sufficiently large cash reserve accompanying...

      Anyway, you should be careful about lumping all Chinese together.

      Besides the mainlanders (who lump together multiple ethnicities and religions), you have:

      1) Taiwan: Remainder of former "democratic" government of China plus native Taiwanese - who incidentally are not 'Han' Chinese but rather are now known to be closely related to ancestral Polynesians, if not actual

      2) Chinese diaspora in Southeast Asia: Chinese occupy a niche similar to Jews in the medieval ages in Europe, only more to do with commerce than banking

      3) Hong Kong: part of mainland, but those who didn't want to be communist but couldn't get off the continent)\

      4) 1st wave Chinese in California/US: laborers brought over to work on the railroads, now 4th generation or more

      5) Refugees from Communist China: those not in the above categories who have settled everywhere they could find a place to live

      6) Children of the above who are native to where they're born now (I'm one)

      No doubt there are more...

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      • #4
        Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

        Clue -

        It's redundant for you to have to bring Spartacus up to speed on general knowledge questions regarding such obscure specialized niche categories as "sub-groups of the Chinese diaspora".

        According to my iTulip cast-of-characters orientation package (created in the former " Is Sapiens an Oracle? .. etc." thread), Spartacus and yourself were the two original experimental BOT's that were released into this community for testing.

        This BOT model is the "high-performance, general-knowledge, fast-retrieval BOT with chronic-overachiever know-everything overlay personality type-A". Only two were released into the iTulip eco-system, as it's still a prototype undergoing trials.

        Hence according to my bot-creation records, the Spartacus-BOT was fitted with approximately the same RAID-data-storage 200 MIPS ARM-9 MCU with random-access library-of-congress datafile sandwiched between it's two ears as you have been. Same model.

        The rest of us enjoy watching the experimental BOT's in action, with occasional commentary of dubious merit interjecting your performance benchmarking sessions.

        All except Rajiv, who's weary task it is to be the BOT's fact-checker and performance checker - his task is to catch you or Spartacus-BOT out on any critical data processing error (he's still searching methodically and is a bit backlogged, but don't get too complacent as your prototype trials are ongoing) - It's a thankless task which was unfairly delegated to him in my iTulip cast-of-characters orientation package.

        He was on the original BOT-development team so he's watching you and Spartacus-BOT like a very proud dad! :cool:

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        • #5
          Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

          I am aware of this[*], but didn't include it because the Chinese I know in Toronto don't differentiate much

          Not in ways that are obvious to me at any rate - maybe in private they do ...
          one hint I've gotten of this are the self-prolaimed "CBC's"
          CBC is the national, government-supported broadcaster, a little like BBC - the CBC's are "Chinese born Canadians". I don't know if it's a mark of pride or something else ...

          Which reminds me, I have to check the P2P networks for "little mosque on the prarie" again.

          Originally posted by c1ue View Post
          Spartacus,

          Taiwan is not a proxy for China, and especially w/ regards to BC.

          A lot of Hong Kong-nese 'emigrated' to Vancouver/Canada in the 1999 period when Hong Kong reverted to People's Republic of China control.
          ....
          No doubt there are more...
          (completely gratuitous addition - ) Do you know much about Cambodia? 2 of the 3 most beautiful women I know are Cambodian. (They love Indians, too ... so with them I claim to be Indian, which I am ... kind of) .
          [*] and don't mean to lump together groups that don't want to be lumped together
          Last edited by Spartacus; September 03, 2007, 02:41 AM.

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          • #6
            Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

            being a BOT makes my nipples explode with delight, and I'm not even Hungarian.

            I think I'll have some BOT food now - Crunchy Frog is optimal for me.

            Originally posted by Lukester View Post
            Clue -

            This BOT model is the "high-performance, general-knowledge, fast-retrieval BOT with chronic-overachiever know-everything overlay personality type-A". Only two were released into the iTulip eco-system, as it's still a prototype undergoing trials.

            He was on the original BOT-development team so he's watching you and Spartacus-BOT like a very proud dad! :cool:
            Google is your friend, BTW.

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            • #7
              Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

              Spartacus-BOT -

              You need to report in for reprogramming and maintenance.

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              • #8
                Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

                Originally posted by Lukester View Post
                Spartacus-BOT -

                You need to report in for reprogramming and maintenance.
                Did you google "my nipples explode with delight" ?

                "Crunchy Frog" ?

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                • #9
                  Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

                  Spartacus-BOT -

                  BOT's were not ever programmed to have an opinion on Monty Python skits.

                  Your prototype was developed for data retrieval and data synthesis. We may have to refer your anomalous behavior to the developer team.

                  I am concerned you are being provided with too much leeway to idle your processing time with frivolous commentary on Monty Python skits, as frivolity was not part of your original firmware upgrade.

                  Without Rajiv's monitoring ( he is unfortunately being sidetracked at present by Serious Foreign Policy Discussion [TM] ), we are concerned your "tasking" shell-application may be deteriorating.

                  Please report in promptly for maintenance Spartacus-BOT. Outbreaks of humor do not conform to BOT behavioral defaults. [ ROGUE-BOT behavioral symptoms, with aggravated cheekiness ].

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                  • #10
                    Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

                    Python is below the firmware ... it is in the quantum and the ether.
                    Python fiddles with the picture. It diddles with the horizontal and the vertical.
                    Python is written in the sand, it is whispered in the wind, it kills you softly with its song (when you laugh so hard you choke on your own phlegm ... softly doesn't fit there, does it ... ).

                    Originally posted by Lukester View Post
                    Spartacus-BOT -
                    BOT's were not ever programmed to have an opinion on Monty Python skits.

                    Please report in promptly for maintenance Spartacus-BOT. Outbreaks of humor do not conform to BOT behavioral defaults. [ ROGUE-BOT behavioral symptoms, with aggravated cheekiness ].
                    as long as it's not testi...ness

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                      Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

                      UPDATE (FIRMWARE - USER MANUAL) - Rogue-BOT's are the thieves of the game. They have the ability to go into stealth mode and sneak around undetected. The Energy Meter is always at default setting HIGH, with a maximum of 100, and replinishes itself quickly.

                      Rogue-BOT's are used for special attacks. While in stealth mode, the Rogue-BOT's can pick Humanoids' pockets for some extra money. They can DUAL-WIELD [TM] weapons at level 10, while other classes recieve the ability at level 20 or never at all. ...


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                      • #12
                        Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

                        The biggest question, actually, is how much money is controlled by how many people?

                        Does it matter at all if 99% of Chinese of all types wanted to invest in Canada, but the top 1000 or so want more USTbills the Tbills win.

                        Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                        Spartacus,
                        Taiwan is not a proxy for China, and especially w/ regards to BC.

                        6) Children of the above who are native to where they're born now (I'm one)
                        No doubt there are more...
                        Jim Rogers makes a big point about why he prefers China to Russia is that foreign Chinese are more likely to forge business ties to their land of origin than Russian.

                        Do you have an opinion on that?

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                        • #13
                          Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

                          dude, did a rat chew through your cables?

                          I hate when that happens.

                          Originally posted by Lukester View Post
                          UPDATE (FIRMWARE - USER MANUAL) - Rogue-BOT's are the thieves of the game.

                          Rogue-BOT's are used for special attacks. While in stealth mode, the Rogue-BOT's can pick Humanoids' pockets for some extra money. They can DUAL-WIELD [TM] weapons at level 10, while other classes recieve the ability at level 20 or never at all. ...


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                          Or did Spock ask you for pi to infinite digits?

                          I hate when that happens

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                          • #14
                            Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

                            Originally posted by Spartacus
                            Do you know much about Cambodia? 2 of the 3 most beautiful women I know are Cambodian. (They love Indians, too ... so with them I claim to be Indian, which I am ... kind of) .
                            I've been there, but can't claim to know anything in particular.

                            Dirt cheap place though with several extremely worthwhile places to experience.

                            Paying $40 for a helicopter ride in some general's army chopper (replete with mistress in back) was definitely a unique experience. Not my mistress ;)

                            Originally posted by Spartacus
                            Jim Rogers makes a big point about why he prefers China to Russia is that foreign Chinese are more likely to forge business ties to their land of origin than Russian.
                            This is not actually correct. Russians who are not part of the original 1917 diaspora (i.e. related to government/ex-nobility) don't forge ties. Russians who are also Jews who left Russia tend also not to forge ties.

                            Russians who are 'White' Russians very much feed back in, but only at the tactical level. The government / various ex-government mafias are composed of those who stayed and tend to be suspicious of emigrants, but this is something that could change.

                            Chinese try hard to forge ties with the mainland, but I would argue that the Taiwanese (ex-Nationalist government by and large) have the money and proximity, followed closely by Hong Kong-nese.

                            Overseas and ABCs like me can find lots of people willing to take and use capital, but again I reiterate: China is like a money roach motel; it goes in but never comes out.

                            Many overseas have moved back to take advantage of the boom, but some are also starting to realize that life in China for overseas or ABCs is basically either become Chinese or continue to make enough money to remain as carpetbaggers.

                            China is not going to become like the US or other Chinese diaspora targets.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Request for Comment : ERIC? Chinese preferences, Canada vs US?

                              Lukester,

                              I try to avoid anything which reinforces my already high tendency to lecture a la geek or dork.

                              Clearly I am failing...

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