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  • Police raid Milan offices of Moody's and Standard & Poor's

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...standard-poors

    John Hooper in Rome
    guardian.co.uk, Thursday 4 August 2011 21.02 BST
    Carlo Maria Capistro – chief prosecutor of Trani, a small Adriatic port – told Reuters that his office was checking to see whether the rating agencies "respect regulations as they carry out their work".

    ...S&P, which along with other rating agencies has been strongly criticised in Europe for downgrading countries such as Greece, said in a statement it believed the Trani inquiry "has no foundation". It added: "We shall strenuously defend our work, our reputation and that of our analysts."

    Moody's said it took "its responsibilities surrounding the dissemination of market-sensitive information very seriously", and was co-operating with the authorities.

    The Trani prosecutors began investigating Moody's in May last year after a complaint by two consumer associations about a report from the ratings agency which said the Italian banking system was at risk from the crisis in Greece. It sparked a round of selling on the Milan bourse.

    It is not clear why the consumer groups took their grievances to out-of-the-way Trani, but Italian prosecutors have wide, discretionary powers to look into alleged offences brought to their attention.

    ...Standard & Poor's came under scrutiny in May after it threatened to downgrade Italy's credit rating because of its huge public debt. Italy is proportionately the second most highly indebted country in the eurozone after Greece.

    The inquiry has since been widened to include a report by S&P last month in which it criticised the government's austerity measures. Those questioned by the Trani prosecutors include the president-designate of the European Central Bank, Mario Draghi; Italy's finance minister, Giulio Tremonti, and a former prime minister, Romano Prodi.

    A separate inquiry is being conducted by prosecutors in Rome into market panics in June and July. Italy's stock market regulator, Consob, last month summoned Moody's and S&P for meetings and urged them not to release their statements during market hours.

    Elio Lanutti, president of one of the consumer groups that sparked the inquiry, said: "The three 'sisters' – Standard & Poor's, Moody's and Fitch – are an erratic danger to state sovereignty in the areas of economics and finance".

  • #2
    Re: Police raid Milan offices of Moody's and Standard & Poor's

    If Navy Seals raided Moody's in NYC would that be the nail in the . . . coffin?

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    • #3
      Re: Police raid Milan offices of Moody's and Standard & Poor's

      in italy, the ratings agencies are supposed to respect omerta.

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        Re: Police raid Milan offices of Moody's and Standard & Poor's

        Originally posted by don View Post
        If Navy Seals raided Moody's in NYC would that be the nail in the . . . coffin?
        wouldnt it be geithner's mob?

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        • #5
          Re: Police raid Milan offices of Moody's and Standard & Poor's

          Omerta folks

          The Securities and Exchange Commission has asked credit rating agency Standard & Poor’s to disclose who within its ranks knew of its decision to downgrade US debt before it was announced last week, as part of a preliminary look into potential insider trading, people familiar with the matter say.

          http://www.cnbc.com/id/44099845

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            Re: Police raid Milan offices of Moody's and Standard & Poor's

            Originally posted by seanm123 View Post
            Omerta folks

            The Securities and Exchange Commission has asked credit rating agency Standard & Poor’s to disclose who within its ranks knew of its decision to downgrade US debt before it was announced last week, as part of a preliminary look into potential insider trading, people familiar with the matter say.

            http://www.cnbc.com/id/44099845
            Yes, there are accusations of the decision being leaked to insiders earlier in the week. And it was all over Twitter hours before the official announcement.

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            • #7
              Re: Police raid Milan offices of Moody's and Standard & Poor's

              If the SEC was doing it's job back in 2006 they would have applied the same law then during the housing bubble.
              Courts have already ruled that the ratings agencies are a form of free speech about an issue of public interest.
              Since when does the SEC have domain over free speech.

              Did they leak the report? I believe this is an attempt to silence their opinion since they warned several times about the pending downgrade over the debt ceiling and out of control deficit spending.

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              • #8
                Re: Police raid Milan offices of Moody's and Standard & Poor's

                http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/85c8d...#axzz1V6KgLSGE

                July 31, 2011 6:41 pm
                Even with a tentative deal to raise the debt ceiling agreed late on Sunday, the Washington acrimony required to get there has left few analysts confident that US Congress can agree sufficient deficit reduction measures to placate Standard & Poor’s, the rating agency most negative in its outlook for US government finances.

                S&P wants to see $4,000bn in cuts, far more than the proposals being discussed. But it is understood that the agency is unlikely to rush out with any statements if a deal is reached that delivers a deficit reduction well below this figure.


                So what are we to make of the third sentence? It could be nothing but the FT is too prominent to assume that.

                4 days prior, WSJ (and most others) had this, the opposite:

                Standard & Poor’s has said that it may drop the U.S.’s triple-A credit rating to double-A even if the country raises the debt ceiling and manages to avoid default. S&P is looking for the U.S. to make big structural changes to get its long-run debt in order, and despite some discussion between President Barack Obama and House Speaker John Boehner earlier in the debt-ceiling debate, a broad plan looks dead in the water.

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