Postcards on the Edge

[shiny!]

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What a terrible product.

The sale of fear.......

A slightly better and more relevant product might be kids clothing that automatically inflates when kids fall into a pool of water before they drown.....and I reckon that would be a bit silly as well.

Yeah. Kids are already suffering back problems from carrying too-heavy book bags. Let's make them heavier with kevlar...

I know a woman who is so afraid something will happen to her daughters that they're never allowed to play outside. They're not allowed to walk to the convenience store. And this is in Scottsdale! These kids are not learning how to deal with life, except to be fearful.

When I was growing up in the 60's, all the mothers in my neighborhood forced us kids outside to get us out of their hair; we were only called in for lunch and supper. We rode bicycles without helmets, caught snakes, shot BB guns, played in treehouses, caught the mumps, measles and chicken pox, occasionally broke some bones, but we all survived.

[BadJuju]

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Are you advocating against vaccines?

[shiny!]

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Are you advocating against vaccines?

No. But I think there might be negative consequences to giving small bodies with immature immune systems so many vaccines against non-fatal illnesses.

I think vaccines against fatal diseases like smallpox, tetanus, polio and dyptheria probably make sense, although I have my doubts about the efficacy of the polio vaccine. With severe illnesses like dyptheria and smallpox, the risk posed by the vaccine itself is less than the risk posed by the disease. When I was a kid we did get immunized for those things. But children today are given many times the number of vaccinations than we were, for many illnesses that wouldn't cause them that much harm. A combination of too many vaccines with toxic preservatives and other ingredients in them, plus never allowing their immune system to fight off real challenges, IMO makes childrens' immune systems weak.

Kids today seem sicker, more frail than when I grew up. As an example, a co-worker of mine has four young children. At least once every month, one of them is in the ER for a serious sinus infection, ear infection, or a bad sore throat that needs heavy-duty antibiotics. They have been vaccinated for everything under the sun yet they're always sick. I only went to the ER once before I was 18, and that was after a bad fall off a horse.

Our immune systems evolved to fight off germs and grow stronger, like our muscles respond to weightlifting (stress challenge) by getting stronger, like our brains respond to regular mental challenges by becoming stronger. Prior to WWII, most of the population was rural. Babies crawled in the barnyard dirt with their tongues hanging out. After WWII and the advent of antibiotics, the modern homemaker was exhorted to spray every surface with Lysol to keep all the evil germs out of the house, and vaccinate the kids with every new vaccine that became available. Now look at how sick people are today. Look at the rising rates of childhood asthma and severe, life-threatening allergies to things like peanuts. A lot of research is pointing to a link between these illnesses and too many vaccines.

This is my opinion in answer to your question. I'm not telling anybody else what to think or do.

[don]

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this didn't take too long to show up . . .

[c1ue]

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A combination of too many vaccines with toxic preservatives and other ingredients in them, plus never allowing their immune system to fight off real challenges, IMO makes childrens' immune systems weak.

The 'lack of challenges' is consistent with the economic theory of immune system function.

The vaccine one - not so clear.

The economic theory of immune system function - as I understand it - is that the body has a relatively fixed number of possible antigen slots. Each slot is effective mostly against just one specific agent (signature). The more potential agents the system is exposed to, the fewer slots are devoted to any one signature. The amount varies, however, according to subsequent exposure: if a particular signature shows up, more slots get switched over to watching for that signature.

Under this theory, the autoimmune diseases arise because there simply aren't very many signatures being protected against. Because of this, the number of slots devoted to common, everyday things is hugely larger than 'normal', which causes unintended behavior.

Look at the rising rates of childhood asthma and severe, life-threatening allergies to things like peanuts. A lot of research is pointing to a link between these illnesses and too many vaccines.

The problem is, the same correlations also hold for household income and most any other rising prosperity index you can point to. However, if I recall correctly, there is a measurable difference between {edit: food} allergy rates in urban vs. rural children.

http://www.northwestern.edu/newscent...ral-urban.html

If so, then the possibility of vaccines being the proximate cause is unlikely as both populations get vaccinations. The antigen environment of an urban dweller, however, is less varied than that of a rural dweller. Of course, the urban dweller also is probably exposed to a lot more chemicals of various sorts than the rural dweller, so it is far from clear what the cause is.

This study in turn looks at asthma rates:

http://publichealth.hsc.wvu.edu/wvrh...licy_brief.pdf

It did not find a clear urban/rural correlation - but it did find

In particular, rural or urban children who were obese, in low income families, racial minorities, or lacked health insurance had significantly increased asthma risk.

[don]

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Coming off the heels of a fantastic performance in recent local elections, the UKIP under the leadership of Nigel Farage continues to make waves in both the UK and the Continent itself. In this case, I refer to a recent powerful performance at the European Parliament courtesy of Godfrey Bloom (UKIP), member of the European Parliament.

For many years, I have stated that Ben Bernanke was and is committing crimes against humanity, and would one day stand trial much like the war criminals at Nuremberg. It appears I am no longer alone in echoing such sentiments, as Mr. Bloom has just done so before the European Parliament.

I once said that Nigel Farage is Category 5 political hurricane. That hurricane has landed.


http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2013/05...war-criminals/

[astonas]

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Thanks for posting, don. Interesting indeed.

The problem is that the chamber is almost entirely empty. Don't get me wrong, it's great that someone is willing to speak such words. I'm trying to work out if there is anyone in Europe willing to listen to them?

[Chris Coles]

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Thanks for posting, don. Interesting indeed.

The problem is that the chamber is almost entirely empty. Don't get me wrong, it's great that someone is willing to speak such words. I'm trying to work out if there is anyone in Europe willing to listen to them?

24% of the voters in the recent County Council elections.

[astonas]

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24% of the voters in the recent County Council elections.

Not a bad start. But I was referring the empty chamber he was speaking to. Putting on a show for the voters back home isn't the same thing as being given credence among the pols in Brussels.

It's very easy for rhetoric this strong to be dismissed as the posturing of a clown. While it would be nice for it to be taken seriously, I'm not yet convinced that it is.

For starters, his willingness to lump Britain in with the problem shows he's pretty out of step with Cameron's government, which implies that he isn't really speaking for most of the country he represents.

[Chris Coles]

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Not a bad start. But I was referring the empty chamber he was speaking to. Putting on a show for the voters back home isn't the same thing as being given credence among the pols in Brussels.

It's very easy for rhetoric this strong to be dismissed as the posturing of a clown. While it would be nice for it to be taken seriously, I'm not yet convinced that it is.

For starters, his willingness to lump Britain in with the problem shows he's pretty out of step with Cameron's government, which implies that he isn't really speaking for most of the country he represents.

The only answer to that is the next two elections; to the Europen Parliament and the next UK General election.

[astonas]

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The only answer to that is the next two elections; to the Europen Parliament and the next UK General election.

Indeed! I'm sure I won't be alone in watching with keen interest.

[tastymannatees]

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Yeah. Kids are already suffering back problems from carrying too-heavy book bags. Let's make them heavier with kevlar...

I know a woman who is so afraid something will happen to her daughters that they're never allowed to play outside. They're not allowed to walk to the convenience store. And this is in Scottsdale! These kids are not learning how to deal with life, except to be fearful.

When I was growing up in the 60's, all the mothers in my neighborhood forced us kids outside to get us out of their hair; we were only called in for lunch and supper. We rode bicycles without helmets, caught snakes, shot BB guns, played in treehouses, caught the mumps, measles and chicken pox, occasionally broke some bones, but we all survived.

Generally agree but it is different today...... those mothers are all at work today not like the old days everybody was home looking out and available to help the kids if they need it.

And just to note in my nice little no crime neighbourhood and just around the corner from my house a minister from a nearby town was arrested for trying to force a 13 year old girl into his car last year.

This stuff happens all the time locally in CT -close enough and often enough that you want to keep a good eye on your kids.

[don]

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the Swedes? Who Knew . . .

Police in Stockholm are to seek reinforcements after youths set cars ablaze and threw stones at police for a fifth night running, officials said.

However, a police spokesman said the overnight violence was less intense than in previous nights.

The gap between rich and poor in Sweden is growing faster than in any other major nation, according to the OECD, although absolute poverty remains uncommon.

Selcuk Ceken, who works at a youth centre in the district of Hagsatra, said 40-50 youths threw stones at police and smashed windows before running away.


He said the rioters were in their 20s and appeared to be well-organized.



"It's difficult to say why they're doing this," he said. "Maybe it's anger at the law and order forces, maybe it's anger at their own personal situation, such as unemployment or having nowhere to live."

[lektrode]

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the Swedes? Who Knew . . .
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He said the rioters were in their 20s and appeared to be well-organized.

"It's difficult to say why they're doing this," he said. "Maybe it's anger at the law and order forces, maybe it's anger at their own personal situation, such as unemployment or having nowhere to live."

would be _very_ interesting to see a full 'demographic' of these 'youths' (ie: ethnicity...)
somehow it occurs to me something isnt being said here - kinda like what happens in other hotspots, when it's the 'students' that are rioting...

[Chris Coles]

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Rent a mob is the first stage in what occurred during the 1930's in Europe; we need to keep close tabs of this.