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    Although the financial press speculates about a downgrade of the US government’s credit rating and default if political impasse prevents the debt ceiling from being raised in time, I doubt anyone really believes that the debt ceiling will not be raised. It is just all a part of the political theater of the next couple of months.

    Republicans will blame the budget deficit and accumulated national debt on Medicare and Social Security. Wall Street sees billions of profits in privatizing either, and debt rating agencies will oblige their Wall Street paymasters by opining from time to time that US Treasury bonds might be downgraded unless “entitlements can be addressed and the deficit brought under control.”

    Democrats will say that the budget deficit cannot be addressed without an increase in tax revenues, especially from the rich whose incomes have exploded upward while their tax rates have declined.

    All the while the pressure of an approaching deadline for default will be used to reshape the US social contract, most likely in the further interest of the rich.

    However, regardless of whether the debt ceiling is raised, the US government is not going to go out of business. Why does anyone think that the President, who does not obey the War Powers Act, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, US and international laws against torture, or any of the laws and procedures that guard civil liberty, is going to feel compelled to obey the debt ceiling?

    As long as the US is at war, the American President is a Caesar. He is above the law. The US Justice (sic) Department has ruled this, and Congress and the Courts have accepted it.

    Moreover, the Federal Reserve is independent of the government. In its approach to regulatory matters and bailouts, the Fed has ceased to follow its own rules.

    Regardless of the debt ceiling, the Fed will continue to purchase the Treasury’s bond issues, and the Treasury will continue to fund the federal deficit with the proceeds. If Goldman Sachs is too big to fail, certainly the US government is.

    As Congress has abandoned its powers over war, how can Congress hold on to its powers over spending? It cannot. Indeed, an impasse between the political parties over the debt ceiling would be welcomed by the executive branch as more proof that Congress is incapable of doing its part in governing and, therefore, the task has of necessity passed to the executive branch, which already does most of it.

    If the President can declare on his own authority, without statutory basis and in defiance of the US Constitution, that he can assassinate US citizens who he considers to be a threat to national security, he certainly can declare that default is a threat to national security and that it is within his powers as commander-in-chief to ignore the debt ceiling.

    Indeed, the executive branch would jump at the chance. Then it could reshape the budget to its own pleasing without having to consult Congress on spending any more than the executive branch consults Congress on war.

    The Bush/Cheney regime brought democracy and accountable government to an end. If Obama doesn’t finish the process, the next in line will.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=25085

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    Re: Paul Craig Roberts on the Debt Ceiling 'Debate'

    One of the problems with representative democracy is that the people's representatives vote in favour of spending, tax cuts, and consequent deficits. When it comes to the more difficult problem of raising taxes in order to pay for everything, the people's representatives vote to postpone paying and dump that problem onto the next generation.

    This problem began with Ronald Reagan and his Reaganomics programme for recovery from the 1979-1982 recession. With Reaganomics, the solution to deficits was the rather convenient answer that the economy would grow its way out of the problem of deficits by liberating the might of the American people from the burden of government and from the burden of taxation. Literally, to the believers in Reaganomics, deficits didn't matter, and deficits would shrink-away to nothing as the economy grew. Furthermore, interest could fall because inflation would drop to zero, and everything would be wonderful in the end.

    Reagan replaced Paul Volker at the Federal Reserve with his choice: Alan Greenspan. The process of lowering interest rates to zero began, etc. The tax-cuts began in earnest, military spending was increased, and the robust recovery from 1979-1982 recession began.... And three decades later, here we are now in the hang-over from "the lost week-end" that began with Reaganomics.
    Last edited by Starving Steve; June 02, 2011, 12:59 PM.

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      Re: Paul Craig Roberts on the Debt Ceiling 'Debate'

      Originally posted by Starving Steve View Post
      This problem began with Ronald Reagan and his Reaganomics programme [blah blah blah blah blah....
      Yawn.

      Right - before Reagan, government never spent more than it took in in taxes. Deficits were unknown. Happy citizens happily paid high taxes for modest government programs and everything was sweetness and light. Then the EVIL REAGAN came in and from then on, everything fell to pieces because the EVIL REAGAN lowered taxes on the EVIL RICH (apparently without any help from the Congress, which was entirely dominated by Democrats through both his terms).

      Damn that rotten Reagan for lowering taxes! Damn him to hell!!!!

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        Re: Paul Craig Roberts on the Debt Ceiling 'Debate'

        Originally posted by Starving Steve View Post
        One of the problems with representative democracy is that the people's representatives vote in favour of spending, tax cuts, and consequent deficits. When it comes to the more difficult problem of raising taxes in order to pay for everything, the people's representatives vote to postpone paying and dump that problem onto the next generation.

        This problem began with Ronald Reagan and his Reaganomics programme for recovery from the 1979-1982 recession.
        The green makes a lot of sense, especially when "the representatives" are shown in these photographs.
        Remember these guys? They LOVED to spend other people's money! (Buying votes.) Jim Wright.gif

        And I couldn't upload the jpegs of "Tip" Oneill, Tom Foley, George Mitchell and the other Democrats who controlled the "Power of the Purse" during the entire eight years of Reagan's presidency. But I'm sure that you won't allow those facts to interfere with your assertion that Reagan is to blame for ALL of our troubles.

        In case you forgot what Paul Craig Roberts had to say about all of those years, here's a refresher: http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...992#post186992

        I don't recall anyone on iTulip from the Left of the political spectrum taking apart what Dr. Roberts had to say in this article. But it's very easy to attempt when you (a) don't have historical facts to back up your assertions, and/or (b) you don't care about facts anyway.
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          Re: Paul Craig Roberts on the Debt Ceiling 'Debate'

          So is the answer a cap on federal spending of a percent of GDP? So that if the tax cuts pass, and the spending cuts don't a forced spending cut will happen? I'm sure somehow the law will be skirted, or the most vulnerable and visible services will be cut, while the pork will still be handed out to the well connected.

          I do agree with Roberts article, in that the federal gvt is already running outside of its constitutional limits. The debt ceiling is a law right? Laws can be repealed or amended, declared unconstitutional, suspended etc. The question is if they use some rules to skirt the ceiling, how does that effect the foreign and private holders of our debt? When do they scream "No Mas"?

          Vanguard short term treasury fund is paying .4% right now. I believe it has a duration of 2-3 years. There are plenty of other
          investments where I can get a shorter duration, high safety, and higher interest. My private money is leaving the treasury market. I don't know about EJ and his large treasury position. I know he is shopping around for alternatives.

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            Re: Paul Craig Roberts on the Debt Ceiling 'Debate'

            Originally posted by Raz View Post
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            But I'm sure that you won't allow those facts to interfere with your assertion that Reagan is to blame for ALL of our troubles.

            In case you forgot what Paul Craig Roberts had to say about all of those years, here's a refresher: http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...992#post186992

            I don't recall anyone on iTulip from the Left of the political spectrum taking apart what Dr. Roberts had to say in this article. But it's very easy to attempt when you (a) don't have historical facts to back up your assertions, and/or (b) you don't care about facts anyway.
            I think this post including the quote pretty much sums everything up well. Dwelling on the matter will simply create more back and forth banter involving republicrat talking points and wedge issues.

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              Re: Paul Craig Roberts on the Debt Ceiling 'Debate'

              Originally posted by dcarrigg View Post
              I think this post including the quote pretty much sums everything up well. Dwelling on the matter will simply create more back and forth banter involving republicrat talking points and wedge issues.
              Not to mention the entire point of Roberts' article was the further concentration of power in the executive. That was immediately shoved aside for more pointless partisan finger pointing. Too bad, it was an interesting point Roberts was making.

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