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  • #16
    Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

    I dunno' guys. This just doesn't ring true.

    A powerful and wealthy 62 year old, walks out of his bathroom and happens on to the 32 year old chamber maid. He chases her down the hall, shoves her down and forces her to perform oral sex? I don't think that even a 20 year old frat boy would try a stunt like that.
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    • #17
      Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

      Originally posted by BiscayneSunrise View Post
      I dunno' guys. This just doesn't ring true.

      A powerful and wealthy 62 year old, walks out of his bathroom and happens on to the 32 year old chamber maid. He chases her down the hall, shoves her down and forces her to perform oral sex? I don't think that even a 20 year old frat boy would try a stunt like that.
      Women are raped and sexually abused every day. Being powerful and wealthy does not preclude one from being a sexual predator. This is not "frat boy" behavior it's a violent felony.

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      • #18
        Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

        Originally posted by BiscayneSunrise View Post
        I dunno' guys. This just doesn't ring true.

        A powerful and wealthy 62 year old, walks out of his bathroom and happens on to the 32 year old chamber maid. He chases her down the hall, shoves her down and forces her to perform oral sex? I don't think that even a 20 year old frat boy would try a stunt like that.
        +1

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        • #19
          Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

          from the ny times http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/16/wo...agewanted=2&hp

          Despite the rumors, one of the few journalists to point to them when Mr. Strauss-Kahn was appointed to the fund was Jean Quatremer, the Brussels correspondent for Libération. He wrote on his blog that Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s “only real problem” was his “rapport” with women. “Too insistent, he often comes close to harassment,” he wrote. “A weakness known by the media, but which nobody mentions. (We are in France.) The I.M.F., however, is an international institution with Anglo-Saxon morals. A misplaced gesture, a too specific allusion, and it will be a media scramble.”

          Mr. Strauss-Kahn behaved aggressively toward a young female journalist and novelist, Tristane Banon, in 2002, according to the newspaper Le Parisien and other Web sites, and corroborated by Ms. Banon herself in a 2007 television interview on Paris Première, a cable channel. At the time, she said that a French politician — whom she later said was Mr. Strauss-Kahn — had tried to rape her in an empty apartment in Paris after she had contacted him for a book she was writing.

          “He wanted to grab my hand while answering my questions, and then my arm. We ended up fighting, since I said clearly, ‘No, no.’ We fought on the floor, I kicked him, he undid my bra, he tried to remove my jeans,” she said.

          Afterward, she said that she had contacted a well-known lawyer who already had “a pile of files on Mr. Strauss-Kahn,” but that she never filed a complaint. “I didn’t dare; I didn’t wish to be the girl who had a problem with a politician for the rest of my life,” she said.

          Her mother, Anne Mansouret, a Socialist, later confronted Mr. Strauss-Kahn and asked why he had attacked her daughter, she told Rue 89, an online newspaper. According to her, he responded: “I don’t know what happened, I went crazy.”

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          • #20
            Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

            Originally posted by BigBagel View Post
            Women are raped and sexually abused every day. Being powerful and wealthy does not preclude one from being a sexual predator. This is not "frat boy" behavior it's a violent felony.
            No doubt. Sex crimes are, indeed, very serious. What I am saying is that a 62 year old mandarin doesn't fit the profile of an egregious predator.

            This whole thing smells a lot like the Duke lacrosse scandal, although admittedly, the report from jk above does seem to point to similar behavior.

            Now we just have to let the justice system work the best it can.
            Last edited by BiscayneSunrise; May 16, 2011, 08:30 AM.
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            • #21
              Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

              He is looking like a real monster now, as family members come forward.

              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

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              • #22
                Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

                Mike Whitney's take:

                Strauss-Kahn had enemies in high places, too, which is why this whole matter stinks to high-Heaven. First of all, Strauss-Kahn was the likely candidate of the French Socialist Party who would have faced Sarkozy in the upcoming presidential elections. The IMF chief clearly had a leg-up on Sarkozy who has been battered by a number of personal scandals and plunging approval ratings.

                But if Strauss-Kahn was set up, then it was probably by members of the western bank coalition . . . Strauss-Kahn had recently broke-free from the "party line" and was changing the direction of the IMF. His road to Damascus conversion was championed by progressive economist Joesph Stiglitz in a recent article titled "The IMF's Switch in Time". Here's an excerpt: "The annual spring meeting of the International Monetary Fund was notable in marking the Fund’s effort to distance itself from its own long-standing tenets on capital controls and labor-market flexibility. It appears that a new IMF has gradually, and cautiously, emerged under the leadership of Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

                Slightly more than 13 years earlier, at the IMF’s Hong Kong meeting in 1997, the Fund had attempted to amend its charter in order to gain more leeway to push countries towards capital-market liberalization. The timing could not have been worse: the East Asia crisis was just brewing – a crisis that was largely the result of capital-market liberalization in a region that, given its high savings rate, had no need for it.

                That push had been advocated by Western financial markets – and the Western finance ministries that serve them so loyally. Financial deregulation in the United States was a prime cause of the global crisis that erupted in 2008, and financial and capital-market liberalization elsewhere helped spread that “made in the USA” trauma around the world....The crisis showed that free and unfettered markets are neither efficient nor stable." ("The IMF's Switch in Time", Joseph Stiglitz, Project Syndicate)

                So, Strauss-Kahn was trying to move the bank in a more positive direction, a direction that didn't require that countries leave their economies open to the ravages of foreign capital that moves in swiftly--pushing up prices and creating bubbles--and departs just as fast, leaving behind the scourge of high unemployment, plunging demand, hobbled industries, and deep recession.

                Strauss-Kahn had set out on a "kinder and gentler" path, one that would not force foreign leaders to privatize their state-owned industries or crush their labor unions. Naturally, his actions were not warmly received by the bankers and corporatists who look to the IMF to provide legitimacy to their ongoing plunder of the rest of the world. These are the people who think that the current policies are "just fine" because they produce the results they're looking for, which is bigger profits for themselves and deeper poverty for everyone else.

                Here's Stiglitz again, this time imparting the "kiss of death" to his friend Strauss-Kahn:

                "Strauss-Kahn is proving himself a sagacious leader of the IMF.... As Strauss-Kahn concluded in his speech to the Brookings Institution shortly before the Fund’s recent meeting: “Ultimately, employment and equity are building blocks of economic stability and prosperity, of political stability and peace. This goes to the heart of the IMF’s mandate. It must be placed at the heart of the policy agenda.”

                Right. So, now the IMF is going to be an agent for the redistribution of wealth.... (for) "strengthening collective bargaining, restructuring mortgages, restructuring tax and spending policies to stimulate the economy now through long-term investments, and implementing social policies that ensure opportunity for all"? (according to Stiglitz)

                Good luck with that.

                Can you imagine how much this kind of talk pisses off the Big Money guys? How long do you think they'd put up with this claptrap before they decided that Strauss-Kahn needed to take a permanent vacation?

                Not long, I'd wager.

                In an article today in the Washington Post, Howard Schneider writes that after the 2008 crash led toward regulation again of financial companies and government involvement in the economy, for Strauss-Khan "the job is only half done, as he has been leading the fund through a fundamental rethinking of its economic theory. In recent remarks, he has provided a broad summary of the conclusions: State regulation of markets needs to be more extensive; global policies need to create a more even distribution of income; central banks need to do more to prevent lending and asset prices from expanding too fast. 'The pendulum will swing from the market to the state,' Strauss-Kahn said in an address at George Washington University last week.

                'Globalization has delivered a lot . . . but it also has a dark side, a large and growing chasm between the rich and the poor. Clearly we need a new form of globalization' to prevent the 'invisible hand' of loosely regulated markets from becoming 'an invisible fist.'" (Link---http://wcampaign.org/issue.php?mid=625&v=y)
                Repeat: "...a fundamental rethinking of economic theory".... (a greater) "distribution of income"...(more) "regulation of financial companies", "central banks need to do more to prevent lending and asset prices from expanding too fast".

                Are you kidding me? Read that passage again and I think you'll agree with me that Strauss-Kahn had signed his own death warrant.

                There's not going to be any revolution at the IMF. That's baloney. The institution was created with the clear intention of ripping people off and it's done an impressive job in that regard. There's not going to be any change of policy either. Why would there be? Have the bankers and corporate bilge-rats suddenly grown a conscience and decided to lend a helping hand to long-suffering humanity? Get real.

                Strauss-Kahn broke ranks and ventured into no man's land. That's why he was set up and then crushed like a bug.

                (Note: Strauss-Kahn has been replaced by the IMF's number 2 guy, John Lipsky, former Vice Chairman of the JPMorgan Investment Bank. How's that for "change you can believe in"?)


                http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...rticleId=24784

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                • #23
                  Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

                  Good job don, that certainly explains a LOT !!!

                  As Greece is showing, there is a limit to how much "pressure" the proles can withstand. Not as much as the bankers think.

                  “commissariat in Harlem,”
                  http://www.newyorker.com/online/blog...rom-paris.html
                  Last edited by Shakespear; May 16, 2011, 09:35 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

                    Originally posted by goadam1 View Post
                    Spitzer, assange, khan all sex raps. Even Osama needed to be discredited with a porn and a jar of lube. I'm not subscribing to any theory or a actual guilt. But sex crime is a quick and easy way to descredit a person.
                    So I'm not the only person skeptical of the Osama porn cache?

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                    • #25
                      Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

                      Originally posted by BiscayneSunrise View Post
                      I dunno' guys. This just doesn't ring true.

                      A powerful and wealthy 62 year old, walks out of his bathroom and happens on to the 32 year old chamber maid. He chases her down the hall, shoves her down and forces her to perform oral sex? I don't think that even a 20 year old frat boy would try a stunt like that.
                      I agree. Hard to picture that scenario taking place. But then it happens every day.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

                        Man, Khan must by now have this sort of stuff figured out. Surely $2,000 is cheap change for him.

                        You setup an account with "courier service" where you often spend time with lets say "Client #6" as handle. Phone in ahead of time that you will need a paper delivered to your room at just before bedtime. The courier arrives, paperwork is done, payment debited from your account credit balance and all is fine.

                        Someone surely must have taken the job over from Sydney Biddle Barrows in NYC by now. There simply is too much business for this sort of service at that price level. Vacuum in business does not last long :-)

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                        • #27
                          Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

                          If you're going to take someone down, it makes sense you would exploit one of their vulnerabilities. Enlisting his unwitting collaboration in his own demise shouldn't be a surprise.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

                            Originally posted by metalman View Post
                            old school, old boys financial oligarchy club... mafia but w/o the guns.

                            to get into the club you are required to engage in elicit activities with other members. nothing serious... coke, prostitutes, infidelity, etc... but enough to wreck your rep if the misdeeds are made public. your compliance with the club's code of silence is ensured by your own complicity in misdeeds. in return, privileges of membership... $$$ speaking gigs, a house here, a country club membership there... if anyone gets out of line, the others out the rogue & cut off his access to $$$. the press jumps on it. rich & powerful man caught red handed! with no $$$ to defend himself, the ejected club member is left swinging in the wind. think spitzer.

                            don't want to join the club but insist on tweaking noses or worse, making the club lose $$$? be prepared to get a tougher frame. favorite methods... plant a few underage hookers, child porn, drugs, whatever... tell the cops & the press... keep the schmuck busy & spending $$$ to defend his rep and stay out of jail. when he's exonerated but broke & broken yrs later, don't expect the media to report it. who gives a shit about a formerly rich guy? not news. that's dsk. they're working this on julian paul assange even if he's not rich... the media can't ignore him because he makes them look stoopid. he thinks he's safe because he's got some dirt on the bankers... not.

                            if you screw up severely... get caught in a badass illegal scam like enron & expose other members to serious shit... you have a heart attack (ken lay) or drown in a swimming pool (jeffry picower).

                            in russia it's traditional mob shit... poison, drowning, shooting, etc if you cross don putin.

                            framed for rape is getting off easy with this crowd & the other members get the msg pronto.
                            Everyone remember Eyes Wide Shut? The greatest film ever made.

                            The depravity of the elite you identify however is why it will be so easy to crush them. They are but vermin that will scatter when exposed to the light.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

                              Here's the criminal complaint

                              http://abcnews.go.com/Site/page?id=13612720

                              The maid identified DSK in a line-up. She was an employee in good standing at the hotel for three years (according the AP).

                              I don't think you need to go Tin Foil on this. DSK is a powerful, influential dirtbag who really crossed the line. Maybe you get away with this stuff in France, not here.
                              Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -Groucho

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                              • #30
                                Re: Head of IMF, DSK, pulled off plane, held by NYPD

                                Originally posted by don View Post
                                Mike Whitney's take:

                                Strauss-Kahn had enemies in high places, too, which is why this whole matter stinks to high-Heaven. First of all, Strauss-Kahn was the likely candidate of the French Socialist Party who would have faced Sarkozy in the upcoming presidential elections. The IMF chief clearly had a leg-up on Sarkozy who has been battered by a number of personal scandals and plunging approval ratings.

                                But if Strauss-Kahn was set up, then it was probably by members of the western bank coalition . . . Strauss-Kahn had recently broke-free from the "party line" and was changing the direction of the IMF. His road to Damascus conversion was championed by progressive economist Joesph Stiglitz in a recent article titled "The IMF's Switch in Time". Here's an excerpt: "The annual spring meeting of the International Monetary Fund was notable in marking the Fund’s effort to distance itself from its own long-standing tenets on capital controls and labor-market flexibility. It appears that a new IMF has gradually, and cautiously, emerged under the leadership of Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

                                Slightly more than 13 years earlier, at the IMF’s Hong Kong meeting in 1997, the Fund had attempted to amend its charter in order to gain more leeway to push countries towards capital-market liberalization. The timing could not have been worse: the East Asia crisis was just brewing – a crisis that was largely the result of capital-market liberalization in a region that, given its high savings rate, had no need for it.

                                That push had been advocated by Western financial markets – and the Western finance ministries that serve them so loyally. Financial deregulation in the United States was a prime cause of the global crisis that erupted in 2008, and financial and capital-market liberalization elsewhere helped spread that “made in the USA” trauma around the world....The crisis showed that free and unfettered markets are neither efficient nor stable." ("The IMF's Switch in Time", Joseph Stiglitz, Project Syndicate)

                                So, Strauss-Kahn was trying to move the bank in a more positive direction, a direction that didn't require that countries leave their economies open to the ravages of foreign capital that moves in swiftly--pushing up prices and creating bubbles--and departs just as fast, leaving behind the scourge of high unemployment, plunging demand, hobbled industries, and deep recession.

                                Strauss-Kahn had set out on a "kinder and gentler" path, one that would not force foreign leaders to privatize their state-owned industries or crush their labor unions. Naturally, his actions were not warmly received by the bankers and corporatists who look to the IMF to provide legitimacy to their ongoing plunder of the rest of the world. These are the people who think that the current policies are "just fine" because they produce the results they're looking for, which is bigger profits for themselves and deeper poverty for everyone else.

                                Here's Stiglitz again, this time imparting the "kiss of death" to his friend Strauss-Kahn:

                                "Strauss-Kahn is proving himself a sagacious leader of the IMF.... As Strauss-Kahn concluded in his speech to the Brookings Institution shortly before the Fund’s recent meeting: “Ultimately, employment and equity are building blocks of economic stability and prosperity, of political stability and peace. This goes to the heart of the IMF’s mandate. It must be placed at the heart of the policy agenda.”

                                Right. So, now the IMF is going to be an agent for the redistribution of wealth.... (for) "strengthening collective bargaining, restructuring mortgages, restructuring tax and spending policies to stimulate the economy now through long-term investments, and implementing social policies that ensure opportunity for all"? (according to Stiglitz)

                                Good luck with that.

                                Can you imagine how much this kind of talk pisses off the Big Money guys? How long do you think they'd put up with this claptrap before they decided that Strauss-Kahn needed to take a permanent vacation?

                                Not long, I'd wager.

                                In an article today in the Washington Post, Howard Schneider writes that after the 2008 crash led toward regulation again of financial companies and government involvement in the economy, for Strauss-Khan "the job is only half done, as he has been leading the fund through a fundamental rethinking of its economic theory. In recent remarks, he has provided a broad summary of the conclusions: State regulation of markets needs to be more extensive; global policies need to create a more even distribution of income; central banks need to do more to prevent lending and asset prices from expanding too fast. 'The pendulum will swing from the market to the state,' Strauss-Kahn said in an address at George Washington University last week.

                                'Globalization has delivered a lot . . . but it also has a dark side, a large and growing chasm between the rich and the poor. Clearly we need a new form of globalization' to prevent the 'invisible hand' of loosely regulated markets from becoming 'an invisible fist.'" (Link---http://wcampaign.org/issue.php?mid=625&v=y)
                                Repeat: "...a fundamental rethinking of economic theory".... (a greater) "distribution of income"...(more) "regulation of financial companies", "central banks need to do more to prevent lending and asset prices from expanding too fast".

                                Are you kidding me? Read that passage again and I think you'll agree with me that Strauss-Kahn had signed his own death warrant.

                                There's not going to be any revolution at the IMF. That's baloney. The institution was created with the clear intention of ripping people off and it's done an impressive job in that regard. There's not going to be any change of policy either. Why would there be? Have the bankers and corporate bilge-rats suddenly grown a conscience and decided to lend a helping hand to long-suffering humanity? Get real.

                                Strauss-Kahn broke ranks and ventured into no man's land. That's why he was set up and then crushed like a bug.

                                (Note: Strauss-Kahn has been replaced by the IMF's number 2 guy, John Lipsky, former Vice Chairman of the JPMorgan Investment Bank. How's that for "change you can believe in"?)


                                http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...rticleId=24784

                                How did they set him up?

                                Was this woman planted in the hotel years ago as a sleeper agent waiting to strike?

                                Or was she approached later and trained to carry out this operation? Who trained her to withstand aggressive questioning by the police and later by a hostile defense attorney?

                                Physical evidence was recovered. Was it planted? Was she trained to give an account the matched the story the physical evidence tells?

                                Were other hotel employees on board to make sure she had the right room assignment and was available for work on the right days?

                                I'm retired from the NYPD and on occasion was the covering supervisor for the Manhattan Special Victims Unit earlier in my career. I have no knowledge beyond what I read in the papers but I can assure you that that woman was put through the wringer regarding what happened in that room and a full background check was done on her. Reading the news accounts it appears that the detectives believe their complainant and are not just going through the motions with a complainant they have little faith in because they are required too.

                                DSK deserves the presumption of innocence. That being said maybe the story is simple: A man did a bad thing to a woman and got caught.

                                We'll find out during the trial.

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