Silver Lining in the Bunker?

[globaleconomicollaps]

Re: Silver Lining in the Bunker?

you want a link?
http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...259#post193259
I have lots more if you need them.

[metalman]

Re: Silver Lining in the Bunker?

Terrorizing and slaughtering citizens has no political affiliation. My Polish father-in-law was a tank corp officer at the outbreak of WWII. He ended up fighting both the Nazis and the Soviets. He emigrated to Canada with his English-born wife after the war.

Chiang Kai-shek's succession by Mao spawned yet another of many episodes of terror in human history. Today we rain "smart bombs" down on the heads of civilians in foreign lands thinking we are doing some sort of good deed with "shock and awe". And the disease is spreading. Having sat out Iraq, the French felt compelled to join the party in Libya...almost obscene in their haste...

Here in Canada we are in the midst of a federal election campaign. The minority Conservative government is asking for a majority writ from the people primarily on a promise of "best-in-class" economic stewardship. The opposition Liberals, when they were in power, got us mired in an indefensible war in Afghanistan. The Conservatives just got us involved in an indefensible war in Libya. Canada stationed six McDonnell Douglas F-18 Hornet jet fighters in Italy to help drop bombs on foreigners...and have proposed the purchase of 65 Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightening II jet fighters. Apparently our existing kit doesn't kill with sufficient efficiency? That's good economic stewardship? The whole thing is sickening. Enough that one is tempted to vote for the socialists for the first time in one's life as they as the only party clearly stating they will pull our troops out of all these places, and put an end to our participation in this insanity. My father-in-law must be turning in his grave...

er... didn't obama promise such in iraq... and guantanamo... promises of withdrawal...

the politicians who get elected are those who refined in the art of lying across election cycles to a science... 'socialists' & 'conservatives'... silly labels... either with the oligarchs or against. eh?

[GRG55]

Re: Silver Lining in the Bunker?

you want a link?
http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...259#post193259
I have lots more if you need them.

I must be missing something. Is there something factually incorrect about what EJ wrote in the post that you linked? And exactly where is the "admiration" for Chiang Kai-shek? He mentions Chiang's party ruling under Marshall [sic] Law...I think he meant martial law, hardly an endorsement or expression of admiration the way I read it???

[globaleconomicollaps]

Re: Silver Lining in the Bunker?

I must be missing something. Is there something factually incorrect about what EJ wrote in the post that you linked? And exactly where is the "admiration" for Chiang Kai-shek? He mentions Chiang's party ruling under Marshall [sic] Law...I think he meant martial law, hardly an endorsement or expression of admiration the way I read it???

Reading it again I think I overstepped. I don't happen to think that returning Taiwan to china would be a big deal, but that is not tantamount to thinking that Chiang Kai-shek was a great guy. In retrospect I think this whole site is slightly right of center, but not a hot bead of fascist ideas. The whole thing with Hitler videos is an unfortunate problem with America not Itulip.

[flintlock]

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I've watched about half a dozen of these film clips using the Fuehrer rant to make a political economic point. I laugh out loud through most of them, they're pretty funny. I don't make any serious connection with the historical moment portrayed in the movie.

Does this go to our need to see humor, with few (and important, such as loved ones) exceptions, in every horrific event we're aware of. Airplane crash humor, soldiers in a foxhole cracking jokes. It happens all the time. It's how we get by. It's how we're hardwired.

The video mocks Hitler. Not Jews. It shows him as the raving lunatic his was. It doesn't praise him or make his beliefs look appealing in any way. That video is taken from a film that seriously was trying to portray Hitler as witnessed by some of the men in the room. He really was like that. While I understand the sensitive nature, by the posters logic, should Charlie Chaplin's film "The Great Dictator" also be banned? Was Chaplin anti-semitic because he made a film mocking Hitler?

I also found it funny. If we take the argument that anything related to Hitler is not funny then what else do we apply this logic to? Anything German? If the video directly addressed the holocaust I could agree, its not funny. But it didn't. Like Don said, its gallows humor. It smacks of today's political correctness and over sensitivity to say we shouldn't find anything funny in serious issues. Otherwise, like Buffet said, "We'd all go insane".

[lektrode]

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.... In retrospect I think this whole site is slightly right of center, but not a hot bead of fascist ideas.

only a 'left-of-center' viewpoint could come up with that observation.

The whole thing with Hitler videos is an unfortunate problem with America not Itulip.

methinks some need to ask themselves what happened to their sense of HUMOR?
cuz that view is right there with the islamic crowd killing/threatening people over comics in the newspapers in EU!

and no apologies nec for yer condescending comments on my prev comment requesting discussion on the topic of this post - the JP MORGUE SILVER SQUEEZE?

[Jay]

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I've watched about half a dozen of these film clips using the Fuehrer rant to make a political economic point. I laugh out loud through most of them, they're pretty funny. I don't make any serious connection with the historical moment portrayed in the movie.

Does this go to our need to see humor, with few (and important, such as loved ones) exceptions, in every horrific event we're aware of. Airplane crash humor, soldiers in a foxhole cracking jokes. It happens all the time. It's how we get by. It's how we're hardwired.

You should hear some of the things said in the Emergency Department...it isn't always pretty in here.