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  • #31
    Re: How to Get Glass-Steagall Back

    Originally posted by chr5648 View Post
    You mean Ethics SHOULD have a place within the framework and rules. I would like to see some consistent empirical evidence of ethics in government, media, and corporations, until then assuming that ethics or duty exist is no different than living in some fantasy world. This whole site is packed with lies and deception of the government, media, and corporations. Ethics and social norms have been gutted out, moral relativism rules the day.
    I know that this website is by nature contrarian. But all is not lost. That is the point of this thread. There are actions that can be taken. As information is brought into light; at least some of those who act without ethics or regard for the harm they do others will be brought to justice.

    Things are not so bad that there is no chance of fixing them. But they will not fix themselves. As with any human endeavor, a watchful eye, strategic mindset, and hard work are required for success.

    I would reverse your challenge and ask you whether you can show any consistent empirical evidence of a lack of ethics in those areas. By this, I don't just mean a preponderance of anecdotes. The complexity of human interaction does not allow for such an empirical study.

    Ethics must be implemented. The implementation process never ends. There is no defined victory, only constant struggle.

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    • #32
      Re: How to Get Glass-Steagall Back

      and you mistunderstand me.

      There are already many children in the U.S. going to bed hungry. There are people suffering due to lack of access to medical
      care etc. There are many people being shot in gang cross fire, and being prisoners in their own neighborhood. Those numbers will likely balloon if the gvt and society break down. I am hoping for a slide like the U.K from the 19th into the 20th century.

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      • #33
        Re: How to Get Glass-Steagall Back

        I don't see any signs of global warming slowing down and we are not shuddering Fast Food Restaurants
        that is for sure.

        Here are some numbers to chew on. Super Size Me another independent film was only a $10 million dollar box office take.
        Paramount Classics released Inconvenient Truth which only took in $23 million at the box office. Sony Pictures Classics which distributes independent films released Inside Job to very limited number of theaters. Right now I just found out that Inside Job currently ranks #30 in rented on DVD movies so perhaps there is some hope after all, some are clicking the pay per view at home and facing the truths that lie somewhere within the movie.

        You may not like my answer, but really there is NO DEMAND for the subject matter in movies, most people go to the movies to escape reality. I believe that the most don't want to know what really happened and the rest cannot comprehend the subject matter or do not have the motivation to even care.

        Don't get saddened over it, or even angry. Be Human and adapt to this knowledge it will make you a stronger person and will
        help you make better decisions that affect your life directly.

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        • #34
          Re: How to Get Glass-Steagall Back

          Originally posted by ThailandNotes
          Civil disobedience, which will entail hardship and suffering, which will be long and difficult, which at its core means self-sacrifice, is the only mechanism left.
          I'll believe the time is right when something like this happens in the US, and actually works:

          http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13022337

          Indian anti-corruption activist Anna Hazare has ended a 96-hour hunger strike, after ministers agreed to all of his demands.
          The 72-year-old campaigner is pushing for tough anti-corruption laws, and has gained huge public support.
          He demanded that the committee drafting the new law be made up of activists as well as politicians. The government said it had agreed to the request.
          In recent months India has been rocked by a string of corruption scandals.
          A former telecom minister is awaiting trial after being accused of selling telecom licences off for a fraction of their value.
          And Indians were shocked when allegations emerged that apartments in Mumbai intended for war widows were in fact given to civil servants.
          Continue reading the main story “Start Quote
          There is no greater symbol of coercive non-violent protest in India than a fast”
          End Quote Soutik Biswas

          Last month the head of the country's anti-corruption watchdog was forced to resign by the Supreme Court on the grounds that he himself faced corruption charges.
          Correspondents say Mr Hazare has rallied people across the country disillusioned with the recent spate of scandals - he is highly respected as a social activist with an untarnished reputation.
          On Saturday, Mr Hazare broke his fast symbolically with a sip of lemonade, the BBC's Sanjoy Majumder in Delhi says.
          Senior politicians including the governing Congress party leader Sonia Gandhi had urged Mr Hazare to give up his fast.
          But he kept on going, and eventually persuaded the government to give in to his demands.
          Thousands turned up to support Mr Hazare's campaign
          The sticking point had been the make-up of a committee in charge of drafting the law.
          The government had agreed to a 50-50 split between politicians and activists.
          But Mr Hazare wanted the committee to be co-chaired, rather than just having an individual politician in charge.
          Kapil Sibal, a federal minister who negotiated on behalf of the government, said a formal order would now be issued setting up the committee as Mr Hazare demanded.
          "Whatever is required to be done will be done by June 30 so that the draft legislation is introduced in parliament," he said.
          Any volunteers?

          Writing a letter to a politician is only marginally above actually doing something - and a far, far cry from a true RajaDharma call.

          This is true RajaDharma:

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