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    And all this time we've been under the delusion that "it's all about oil"...
    Ivory Coast: UN air strikes show West's new appetite for military action

    Tuesday 05 April 2011


    The UN air strikes in Ivory Coast suggest Libya was no fluke: the West's appetite for military action has recovered robustly from the diplomatic trauma of the Iraq war.

    After a brief honeymoon following the successful mission to protect Kosovo in 1999, it seemed the Blairite era of "liberal interventionism" had been buried along with tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians.

    The chaos after the steamrollering of the UN Security Council by Tony Blair and George W. Bush in 2002-03 seemed likely to usher in a new period of isolationism.

    Barack Obama swept to power in 2008 on a wave of anti-war sentiment, while David Cameron entered Downing Street last year insisting that the West "can't drop democracy from 40,000ft".

    Yet the past three weeks have found the council – this time with a less noisy Anglo-American wing – willing to pass stunningly powerful resolutions allowing missile strikes against murderous leaders.

    Both resolution 1973 on Libya and resolution 1975 on Ivory Coast give external forces the authority to take "all necessary" measures to protect civilians from violence – practically a carte blanche.

    A Western diplomat at the UN last night said the resolutions showed members were taking seriously the "Responsibility to Protect" doctrine, adopted in 2006, promising "timely and decisive action" against atrocities.

    "TV pictures and the threat of humanitarian catastrophe have made people not want to wait for massacres to happen, as in Rwanda," he said, in language strikingly reminiscent of the Blair-Clinton era.

    The diplomat said that crucial in both cases had been the endorsement of action by the respective regional authorities – on Libya, the Arab League and on Ivory Coast, Ecowas and the African Union.

    "It's very difficult if you're Russia or China to say 'no' if the Arabs and the Africans themselves are saying 'yes'," he said.

    Also important has been the belligerence of Paris. The site of the Chirac-era "Non!" has become gung-ho, ensuring military – and symbolic – backing from the European mainland.

    While Mr Obama has stayed almost invisible, the domestically embattled Nicolas Sarkozy has taken personal "ownership" of both interventions, rushing out his statements before anyone else.

    It may not last. "There will be a price to pay for rushing these things through," the diplomat said. "The Indians are very unhappy and agreed only reluctantly."

    But for the time being, the "something must be done" attitude of the late 1990s – and talk of a single-willed "international community" – has made a surprise return to New York's Turtle Bay.



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    Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

    What is it about this time?

    Didn't we read dire predictions of constant wars from some here on Itulip not too long ago?

    "When war becomes that profitable, you are going to see a lot more of it"

    Chalmers Johnson in "Why we Fight"

    More Military Keynesianism in effect?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Keynesianism

    I'm still struggling here a bit to figure out what the angle is in these "little wars". An attempt to show the world the UN resolution ISN'T just about the oil? That they really do care?

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    • #3
      Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

      Originally posted by flintlock View Post
      What is it about this time?

      ...
      My theory is that Ban Ki-moon and Carla Bruni are both chocolate addicts...

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      • #4
        Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

        I have noticed the price of my Whittakers Dark Chocolate blocks rising substantially in price.

        Grow baby grow!

        As a kid I remember reading about Ivory Coast under the firm rule of Houphouët-Boigny.

        Outside of white-ruled Rhodesia and South Africa they appeared to be by far the most successful black ruled country and economy in Africa......earning substantial export revenue from it's agricultural resources..until it stopped when prices collapsed.

        What's come after Houphouët-Boigny and the collapsed export values seems to be yet another African version of Yugoslavia post Tito.

        Is Ivory Coast the future of Libya?

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        • #5
          Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

          Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
          And all this time we've been under the delusion that "it's all about oil"...
          Or it's the .gov of France protecting French corps. To wit:

          http://www.ecpinvestments.com/news/1666.xml
          Finagestion - major utility player - owned by French conglomerate Bouygues
          Also, Bouygues owns stakes in construction outfits, hospitals, universities, and ETDE:
          http://www.afrikeasy.com/welcome/4/2...bidjan-etde-en
          18,166 employees. Over a billion euros in 2010 sales in the region.

          French Telecom also is a big player in utilities, through it's 'Orange' brand:
          http://www.orange.com/en_EN/group/gl...y-coast-gn.jsp
          Nearly half-a-billion in annual revenues there:
          http://www.orange.com/en_EN/group/gl...y-coast-fi.jsp.
          It employs 1,600 French citizens and about 20k more locals.

          Bilateral trade is about a billion euros a year. There may be legitimate 'national interest' arguments to be made for France to interfere - beyond just using the mil/ind-complex to bolster Keynesian expansionism.

          Another civil war is, as they say, bad for business.

          An incidental Australian gold mining operation:
          http://www.perseusmining.com/tengrela.35.html

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          • #6
            Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

            Originally posted by flintlock View Post
            I'm still struggling here a bit to figure out what the angle is in these "little wars". An attempt to show the world the UN resolution ISN'T just about the oil? That they really do care?
            My very dark take, beyond the typical, valid reasons of massive profits to the debt masters and war machine minions, is that war keeps the heirarchical global economy moving by displacing workers and destroying the horizontal bonds in local communities and cultures. This provides more immigrants and people willing to work in true slavery conditions just to get by and reinforces strict adherence to the power structure. An added "benefit" is that the new "workers," since they work for essentially nothing, act as a deflationary force. An imperialist stooge is then put into permanent office to maintain the status quo of oppression, takes on a bunch of IMF debt (which reinforces the vertical structure) to build port infrastructure and the like so the important minerals, oil and agricultural products can be shipped to the rest of the "civilized" world and the stooge and his cronies live like kings as they sell out their populace....if you can't get the stooge you want, you keep the war going.

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            • #7
              Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

              Jeremy Grantham recently said in an interview:

              "We're running out of everything"





              The world's getting carved up right before our eyes....

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              • #8
                Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

                Originally posted by dcarrigg View Post
                Or it's the .gov of France protecting French corps. To wit:

                http://www.ecpinvestments.com/news/1666.xml
                Finagestion - major utility player - owned by French conglomerate Bouygues
                Also, Bouygues owns stakes in construction outfits, hospitals, universities, and ETDE:
                http://www.afrikeasy.com/welcome/4/2...bidjan-etde-en
                18,166 employees. Over a billion euros in 2010 sales in the region.

                French Telecom also is a big player in utilities, through it's 'Orange' brand:
                http://www.orange.com/en_EN/group/gl...y-coast-gn.jsp
                Nearly half-a-billion in annual revenues there:
                http://www.orange.com/en_EN/group/gl...y-coast-fi.jsp.
                It employs 1,600 French citizens and about 20k more locals.

                Bilateral trade is about a billion euros a year. There may be legitimate 'national interest' arguments to be made for France to interfere - beyond just using the mil/ind-complex to bolster Keynesian expansionism.

                Another civil war is, as they say, bad for business.

                An incidental Australian gold mining operation:
                http://www.perseusmining.com/tengrela.35.html
                Yours is the most likely scenario, but I like the chocolate conspiracy as well.

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                • #9
                  Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

                  Originally posted by gnk View Post
                  Jeremy Grantham recently said in an interview:

                  "We're running out of everything"

                  ...
                  Did he include bankers in his list?

                  Just askin'...

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                  • #10
                    Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

                    It's all Cadbury , Nestle & Hersheys fault.

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                    • #11
                      Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

                      Originally posted by cmalbatros View Post
                      It's all Cadbury , Nestle & Hersheys fault.
                      no, there's not all that much cocoa in their products. mostly sugar.

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                      • #12
                        Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

                        What we have is a serious of man made and natural disasters that has set off a positive feed back loop. The US currency takes a hit from is debtor economy, then the Euro goes down. The Yen is backed by a nuclear disaster. So now commodities have become a store of value. As these are bought up it makes the relative currencies look even worse and so it continues. We are not really running out of anything yet, more or less.

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                        • #13
                          Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

                          The Cote d'Ivoire needs to be renamed 'Florence of Africa'

                          Ouattara is apparently a bankster: (via wiki)

                          Ouattara trained as an economist and worked for the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the Central Bank of West African States (French: Banque Centrale des États de l'Afrique de l'Ouest, BCEAO).

                          From November 1984 to October 1988 he was Director of the African Department at the IMF, and in May 1987 he additionally became Counsellor to the Managing Director at the IMF.[2]

                          Compare with his 'anti freedom' opponent, Ggabgo: (also via wiki)

                          Gbagbo was born in the village of Mama, near Gagnoa. He became a history professor and an opponent of the regime of President Félix Houphouët-Boigny. He was imprisoned from March 31, 1971 to January 1973. In 1979, he obtained his doctorate at Paris Diderot University (French: Université Paris Diderot, also known as Université Paris 7 - Denis Diderot). In 1980, he became Director of the Institute of History, Art, and African Archeology at the University of Abidjan. He participated in a 1982 teachers' strike as a member of the National Trade Union of Research and Higher Education, and at this time he formed what would become the Ivorian Popular Front (FPI).

                          Hmmm.....

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                          • #14
                            Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

                            Originally posted by jk View Post
                            no, there's not all that much cocoa in their products. mostly sugar.
                            +1

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                            • #15
                              Re: The Strategic Importance of...Cocoa?

                              Originally posted by Jay View Post
                              My very dark take, beyond the typical, valid reasons of massive profits to the debt masters and war machine minions, is that war keeps the heirarchical global economy moving by displacing workers and destroying the horizontal bonds in local communities and cultures. This provides more immigrants and people willing to work in true slavery conditions just to get by and reinforces strict adherence to the power structure. An added "benefit" is that the new "workers," since they work for essentially nothing, act as a deflationary force. An imperialist stooge is then put into permanent office to maintain the status quo of oppression, takes on a bunch of IMF debt (which reinforces the vertical structure) to build port infrastructure and the like so the important minerals, oil and agricultural products can be shipped to the rest of the "civilized" world and the stooge and his cronies live like kings as they sell out their populace....if you can't get the stooge you want, you keep the war going.
                              I've heard it said, "We always get what we intend". Looked at through this lens, that the human tragedy of war is not a regrettable side effect but is instead the intended consequence, then all is going to plan. I fear there will never be a popular uprising against the planners because the majority of people don't see it and don't want to see it. The few people of influence who do see it, like Ron Paul, get ridiculed and marginalized.

                              Cripes, but this is depressing.

                              Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.

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