Hudson: state house lost in FIRE

[Master Shake]

Re: Hudson: state house lost in FIRE

What a bunch of horseshit! Hudson went Godwin in the first sentence at word seven. A new world record?

[dcarrigg]

Re: Hudson: state house lost in FIRE

Of course, its an absolutely absurd argument, pathetic even, but a necessary one for a side that has absolutely nothing else to stand on. As my mother told me when I was 5 years old, "Two wrongs don't make a right!". Apparently the socialist f*cktards in Wisconsin--and those that support them--never listened to their mothers.

[dcarrigg]

Re: Hudson: state house lost in FIRE

I don't pretend to follow the lines of logic below. Incoherence abounds. Yet curiosity often gets the best of me.

Did I read that you think limiting collective bargaining for public employees equates to less money and influence for corporations and lawyers?

A short answer will suffice.

Somehow, there are always people who are merely attempting the limitation of the use of 'Other Peoples Money'. This is a shame, really...it would all be so much easier if an occasional politician actually tried to keep a campaign promise without being blamed for it..


This political silliness is about limiting what type of compensation can be used between the Tax Payers and the Union Workers with threat of force. It is merely a small legal change to limit corruption built into our system of political economy.


This law is about the use of 'Other Peoples Money', not about Unions, or Dems or Banksters, or the Tea Party.

It is about limiting the use of 'Other Peoples Money'. It is about limiting what type of compensation can be used between the Tax Payers and the Union Workers with threat of force. It is merely a small legal change to limit corruption built into our system of political economy.

That means that all we taxpayers...you know…regular people… still end up being taxed the same...but the money goes somewhere else to pay the bills, not into someone’s pocket, or to pay for a blasted election campaign.

Of course, the Politicians, Corporations, Legal People, etc., not being regular people, will earn less money, and have a bit less influence. Heck, it might even level the playing field just a bit for those regular folks, without devastating jobs, pensions, and or "Union Workers", almost as if they were just regular folks too, and not a protected class, and the rest of us slaves.

After all, what really got changed was the negotiating weapons and defense that will be used in future for taxpayer paid jobs.

All people in America pay taxes of some kind (except some politicians, banksters, corporations and union thugs)...even the homeless pay sales tax, whether hidden as a fee or not, received by the state during someone in the raw materials, manufacturing, sales and distribution sequence so that the community can exist in relative peace, and presumably under law.

As for the vote being improper or illegal due to the absence of some State Senators… The vote for this law was in a 'special session', with less parliamentary regulation on procedure in Wisconsin, with only a non-financial law being passed, saying that Unions and Politicians can NOT hold a knife to the throat of the taxpayers to get all that can be squeezed out of them.

For those grumbling, please recall that all law is temporary, as are the jobs of Union Leaders and Politicians, and even Regular People. No one is being laid off, no one is losing their pay, or their benefits. How compensation is to be defined in future is what this is about. Sure, the State of Wisconsin wants to limit compensation to salary… but then, who doesn't? Give me my Health Insurance premium, and my retirement or pension, and I’ll use it better.



I'm not sorry that some Union Leaders will lose some money or influence for contracts made with the State on behalf of tax payers...but they still get to play the same lying, cheating and stealing money game the private sector is designed to be at present unless Wisconsin outlaws private sector negotiation.

Every money issue will still have to wait until the voting cowards come back from Illinois. If you will recall, the House Legislators, both Democrat and Republican, passed the bill to the Upper Assembly. But this portion of the law would have passed even if they had been present, and voted no.

[dcarrigg]

Re: Hudson: state house lost in FIRE

but.... CAN ANYBODY EXPLAIN WHY THIS ISNT HAPPENING???

if i had to guess - not to sound partisan or nuthin...
and its just a hunch, but i dont really know/understand what i'm talking about...
just to speculate, mind you...
its hard to prove...
tho not hard to argue...but if i had to bet, i'd hafta say...

its cuz the culprits/perps/enablers

ARE ALL DEMOCRATS!

Nope - but half are Democrats. Since they've been in power, it's their fault. When they're not, it's the other folks' fault. Either way, FIRE can't loose. Here's a quick run-down of a few that put in more $ in 2010 than the AFL-CIO or the NRA.

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summ...?id=D000000071
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summ...?id=D000000085
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summ...?id=D000000087
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summ...?id=D000000090
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summ...?id=D000000103
http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/summ...?id=D000000106

[oddlots]

Re: Hudson: state house lost in FIRE

My mother is not simple-minded enough to make the argument above so keep her out of it would you.

[charliebrown]

Re: Hudson: state house lost in FIRE

i will not feed the troll. I hope I live long enough for the banksters to get their "lickins" too.

A few score of them with their assets stripped and spending some time in the cooler with "big Julie", just might go
a long way in cleaning up the cess pool of both gvt and the banking cartel.