Escalation in Egypt

[radon]

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Interesting times indeed.

Egypt - a de facto US ally along with Israel in preserving the Middle East status quo, now undergoing violent upheaval.

Tunisia - a de facto French protectorate, now undergoing violent upheaval.

Who's next?

Jordan?
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...157509196.html

[radon]

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Exactly, this regime has been in place since i was born! I'm 29, a generation has known nothing but this prick and his family in office robbing the country blind via their oligarchy.... Election after election where the only choice on the ballot is Mubarak (yes/no) and he always wins with 99% of the vote; when their feeling a little tepid they will say 95% of the vote... Then he installs his son as head of the National Party, as a way to smooth him into the political space and make him the next candidate for president; essentially a way to circumvent the "monarchy" title and make it seem legit... All we know is Gido Hosni (Grandpa Hosni).... The mind only boggles at what the change could be! Anything is better than the stagnation that is in place now... Change is good; and change i can see is WAY better than change i need to "believe" in...

Just be careful you don't end up with someone worse. Not all revolutions have a happy ending.

[radon]

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Well we have a Dichotomy here don't we?
Hilary warns the Egyptian Government not to shut down the internet and social media

She does have a flare for brazen hypocrisy. I wonder if she will still feel that way when protesters are marching on Washington. It would be amusing if she, at some future date, is chastised by Egypt for pulling the plug to try to slow down our own protest organizers.

[Andreuccio]

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LOL.

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[karim0028]

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Jordan?
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...157509196.html

Perhaps Syria...

[iyamwutiam]

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Egypt is crucial. If the aftermath of this is anything like Tunisia -the US is lost as a political power -and it will mark the end of an empire as the independence of the British's crown jewel-India did.

The support of dictators impinged upon the autocrat to disavow the genuine feelings any public would have in regards to Palestine/Iraq etc would inevitably lead to backlash. I do not see Turkey in that vein - they have been the true voice of disaffection with the US's wars and the unbridled and unrepentant support of an apartheid state known as Israel.

If Egypt goes the way of Tunisia -then Yemen will be next followed by Jordan. This nightmare scenario will force the US to re-think their commitment to Israel if they truly wish to extend their reign as a relevant power. However since AIPAC and the cabal of zionist power brokers will not let that happen anytime soon. So we will find ourselves being increasingly unwelcome and political powers aligned with the US (even democratic nations like India) will distance themselves from public US relations.

The outcome will lead to QE3 -by next spring further accelerating the world's attempt to de-link from dollar hegemony. It is dollar hegemony that is essentially causing all the inflation that has been the genuine catalyst for the people's revolution. Long overdue as well all know-- and surely many wondered how this could be sustainable.

[c1ue]

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There will probably be a wave around the emerging economies. The wealth that was felt for the internet generation during the years from 2003 to when the dollar turned around in 2008, giving money to buy things, is probably going to be hard to get off. I think the whole Internet revolution have created a much higher awareness, to the unfairness in the world, thus increasing these kind of events as emerging market currencies resume their normal bad trend vs the dollar. However one nations problems, is another nations gain, in this case the US.

Another completely inane post.

Exactly how does the collapse of the Mubarak government - recipient of $1.5 billion a year in US aid - count as a win for the US?

[karim0028]

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Just be careful you don't end up with someone worse. Not all revolutions have a happy ending.

Anything is better than cronyism and stagnation... I dont think you can get any worse... The Egyptian population is ~ 40-50% under the age of 30 (dont quote me, i read it some time ago) and have an unemployment rate of ~30%... Do you think you can placate that demographic with the same old shit?

Not after you let the genie out of the bottle...

[flintlock]

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Another completely inane post.

Exactly how does the collapse of the Mubarak government - recipient of $1.5 billion a year in US aid - count as a win for the US?

LOL My thoughts exactly! Win for US????

[flintlock]

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Syria next? That would be interesting.

[flintlock]

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Revolution is all well and good. You just need to be sure you have something good lined up to replace "the same old shit"!
You don't want to end up with another Cambodia or that ilk.

EDIT: Seems this may have been worked out already

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-uprising.html

The American government secretly backed leading figures behind the Egyptian uprising who have been planning “regime change” for the past three years, The Daily Telegraph has learned.

[BigBagel]

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Listened to the US media:

CNBC: More of a bad for business vibe.

Fox News: Listened a little. Fear is the theme. Muslim Brotherhood behind it. 200$ oil. Radical Islamists in charge throughout the Middle East.

US Government: If there was a Nobel Prize for hypocrisy our government should get it.

[jneal3]

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Just heard a statement that inflation rate of basic foodstuffs in Egypt over the last 9 months is 20% annualized - could be a major contributor to the willingness of the middle-class to join the current revolt. Is it more difficult to hide inflation in a society such as Egypt's in the way it's been hidden here in the states by just reducing package sizing while maintaining prices? From the iTulip thread on inflation snapshots, we've been seeing true levels of food price inflation comparable to 20%, but because we're arithmetic-challenged as a nation we aren't universally aware of it. Just sayin'....

[don]

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Remember in the old daze when it was reputed the internet could not be blocked. Too vast, went the reasoning. On a flight I asked the woman next to me, who was in the field, wasn't an obvious control point the large routers. Oh, she said, you might have a point. Geeez.

[lektrode]

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.... If there was a Nobel Prize for hypocrisy our government should get it.

too late for this year: krugman already got it.....