Escalation in Egypt

[touchring]

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Let it burn.... Mubark and his ilk never stop leeching until they are kicked out on their ass... Its the same way the previous monarchy was kicked out in '52... They have sucked the population dry. Corruption is so obvious its no longer hidden and the people have essentially lost hope that any change will come..

THIS is hope and change you can believe in! Not the BS we got here I just hope it doesnt fizzle away like so many other protests...

I am loving these facebook and twitter revolutions!

If he doesn't fall now, in future, his son won't stand for long either. So the US has to make a decision sooner or later.

[GRG55]

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If he doesn't fall now, in future, his son won't stand for long either. So the US has to make a decision sooner or later.

It would appear the US already has.
http://www.itulip.com/forums/showthr...87980#poststop

[thunderdownunder]

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If he doesn't fall now, in future, his son won't stand for long either. So the US has to make a decision sooner or later.

Well we have a Dichotomy here don't we?
Hilary warns the Egyptian Government not to shut down the internet and social media and on the other hand in the USA, Obama want a law to do the same.
First amendment....
So you remember....
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Animal farm was correct.The US will make that decision sooner rather than later - There Fixed if For ya
Lying Pigmen all of those critters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=NZldlyeR8DU If you have to be refreshed on how accurate George O was in predicting the USA of today; then

[Ibsen]

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Internet access has been cut.
Egypt is setting a precedent here, and we should be prepared for other governments to follow when civil unrest gets too thtretening to the sitting government. Bad...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology...nternet-access


Egypt appears to have cut off almost all access to the internet from inside and outside the country from late on Thursday night, in a move that has concerned observers of the protests that have been building in strength through the week.

[GRG55]

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Internet access has been cut.
Egypt is setting a precedent here, and we should be prepared for other governments to follow when civil unrest gets too thtretening to the sitting government. Bad...

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This is far from the first time that a Middle East government has restricted internet access or disabled mobile phone capability. The implications of these moves are becoming more acute with the proliferation of social networking sites, but they've been using this tactic for a long time now.

The internet service in the Persian Gulf kingdom where I am at present went to slower than dial-up two days ago. What a coincidence. The government telco website and inet help desk messages say there has been a loss of service on one of the main undersea data cables feeding the country. Everyone here knows better...they have their monitoring systems dialed up and everything is now being scanned.

[Ibsen]

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This is far from the first time that a Middle East government has restricted internet access or disabled mobile phone capability. The implications of these moves are becoming more acute with the proliferation of social networking sites, but they've been using this tactic for a long time now.

Closing down Facebook and Twitter and similar social network sites is one thing.
Now it seems that all ISPs have been shut down which includes gov sites, banks, the stock exchange (at least I can't access the site from my computer) everything
Has this really been done before?

[GRG55]

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Yes.

I should qualify this by pointing out that you are correct in that none of the previous experiences were in a country anywhere near as large, populous or as economically diversified as Egypt. And in the previous instances I am familiar with [some from personal experience] there was only a single ISP, the government telco. In this instance all four major ISPs in Egypt, private and government, went dark at the same time early this Friday morning.

This is an act of a truly desperate regime that still thinks it can somehow control the people. They will fail. Invariably people are more ingenious than their governments.

[touchring]

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This is far from the first time that a Middle East government has restricted internet access or disabled mobile phone capability. The implications of these moves are becoming more acute with the proliferation of social networking sites, but they've been using this tactic for a long time now.

The internet service in the Persian Gulf kingdom where I am at present went to slower than dial-up two days ago. What a coincidence. The government telco website and inet help desk messages say there has been a loss of service on one of the main undersea data cables feeding the country. Everyone here knows better...they have their monitoring systems dialed up and everything is now being scanned.

Probably learning from the Chinese on how they cracked down the Uighurs, ironically, also Muslim people.

http://shanghaiist.com/2010/05/14/xi...dthis_time.php

[oddlots]

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El Baradei arrested apparently:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/...s-live-updates

[karim0028]

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El Baradei arrested apparently:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/...s-live-updates

Boxed in at the mosque he was praying at, not arrested... They wont let him march with the crowd after friday prayers; which 80%+ of the country goes to on fridays....

[oddlots]

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Copy that.

[Andreuccio]

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The US of Owe might wake up to a very rickety stock market.

Prescient:

Stock sell off sparked by Egypt unrest

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- U.S. stocks fell Friday, as investors grew nervous about political unrest in Egypt, as they digested a mixed batch of U.S. economic and corporate news.
The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) lost 120 points, or 1%, with a 3% drop in Microsoft's (MSFT, Fortune 500) stock leading the decline despite the company posting record sales of $20 billion.



The S&P 500 (SPX) slipped 16 points, or 1%, dragged down by Monster Worldwide (MWW) and Ford (F, Fortune 500), which posted lower-than-expected earnings. The tech-heavy Nasdaq dropped 57 points, or 2%, with shares of Amazon (AMZN, Fortune 500) sinking more than 8%.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/28/mark...york/index.htm


I thought yesterday you had a good point, so I lightened up a little on my stocks. I sold my shares in Ford and HP. By chance, Ford came out with an earnings report this morning, which, despite showing their biggest profit since '99, disappointed because it was much lower than expected. Ford down 11.6% in trading this morning.

HP is only off 2.6%.

Thanks. If you're ever in L.A., look me up. I owe you a drink.

[thunderdownunder]

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Prescient:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/28/mark...york/index.htm


I thought yesterday you had a good point, so I lightened up a little on my stocks. I sold my shares in Ford and HP. By chance, Ford came out with an earnings report this morning, which, despite showing their biggest profit since '99, disappointed because it was much lower than expected. Ford down 11.6% in trading this morning.

HP is only off 2.6%.

Thanks. If you're ever in L.A., look me up. I owe you a drink.

That offer would cost you, you see, I'm an Australian and Queenslander - We drink like whale sharks

[c1ue]

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Interesting times indeed.

Egypt - a de facto US ally along with Israel in preserving the Middle East status quo, now undergoing violent upheaval.

Tunisia - a de facto French protectorate, now undergoing violent upheaval.

Who's next?

[nero3]

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There will probably be a wave around the emerging economies. The wealth that was felt for the internet generation during the years from 2003 to when the dollar turned around in 2008, giving money to buy things, is probably going to be hard to get off. I think the whole Internet revolution have created a much higher awareness, to the unfairness in the world, thus increasing these kind of events as emerging market currencies resume their normal bad trend vs the dollar. However one nations problems, is another nations gain, in this case the US.