Brave new Dystopia

[jtabeb]

Excellent read on how we got where we are and where we are going. (Hint BEST of BOTH DYSTOPIAS)

“Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating?” Orwell wrote. “It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself.”

http://www.truth-out.org/2011-a-brave-new-dystopia66307

[don]

Re: Brave new Dystopia

Excellent read on how we got where we are and where we are going. (Hint BEST of BOTH DYSTOPIAS)

“Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating?” Orwell wrote. “It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself.”

http://www.truth-out.org/2011-a-brave-new-dystopia66307

But will it be privately owned?



We may still need a bit of the public sector, I'm afraid ....

[metalman]

Re: Brave new Dystopia

Excellent read on how we got where we are and where we are going. (Hint BEST of BOTH DYSTOPIAS)

“Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating?” Orwell wrote. “It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself.”

http://www.truth-out.org/2011-a-brave-new-dystopia66307

'We are beginning to understand, as Karl Marx knew, that unfettered and unregulated capitalism is a brutal and revolutionary force that exploits human beings and the natural world until exhaustion or collapse.'

what is he saying? ' unregulated capitalism'? is that what we have? or corporatism. the writer is another confused socialist like hudson.

[World Traveler]

Re: Brave new Dystopia

We probably won't get anything as extreme as 1984 novel, but we are definitely moving in that direction. Computer systems and CCTV cameras (as in England) can monitor A LOT of our activities. Plus the U.S. government has gotten more authoritarian in last 30 years - huge military budgets, invading other countries, largest prison population in the world, etc.

Thanks for posting article. A thought-provoking analysis.

[lektrode]

Re: Brave new Dystopia

We probably won't get anything as extreme as 1984 novel, but we are definitely moving in that direction. ....

i'll say - since 1995, being a relative 'pioneer' on the wwweb and watching how things are developing, i'd say we're getting very close to orwell's vision of 1984: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...216593180.html

• DECEMBER 5, 2010, 6:58 P.M. ET

Lawsuit Targets an Online Data Collection Technique




The suit, which a lawyer for the plaintiffs said was filed late Friday in the U.S. District Court of the Central District of California, is one of the first to target a practice called "history-sniffing," which is drawing increased scrutiny from regulators and academics.
The technique generally relies on the fact that Internet browsers display web links in different colors based on whether the user has visited the particular link before. By running some code inside a user's web browser, a company can tell whether certain sites have been visited and create a profile of where someone has been online without them knowing.

[sunskyfan]

Re: Brave new Dystopia

Why would you consider those two mutually exclusive? Corporations have successfully decoupled themselves from the State and, after 2008, the allegiance of the central banks is clearly to corporate entities not "the people". We have entered a regime of unregulated capitalism but the horrible truth is that it is nearing totally corrupt capitalism as well where the capital formation is directly or implicitly controlled by the corporations without the necessary correlation with success and productivity capitalism requires to to have an ethical and moral justification for existence. Those governments who can print money are trying to desperately to remain relevant. Those who can't have a gun held to their heads to acquiesce to the new financial order.

[shiny!]

Re: Brave new Dystopia

We probably won't get anything as extreme as 1984 novel, but we are definitely moving in that direction. Computer systems and CCTV cameras (as in England) can monitor A LOT of our activities. Plus the U.S. government has gotten more authoritarian in last 30 years - huge military budgets, invading other countries, largest prison population in the world, etc.

We're moving towards 1984 at an alarming, ever-increasing speed. I hope we won't get anything as extreme as that, but I see no evidence that the gov't has any desire to stop the authoritian direction in which they're going. In fact, I see the opposite. I fear the noose has tightened so effectively around our necks that we now have no way out. We are not heading towards a police state, we are already there. We are not losing our Constitutional rights, we have already lost them.