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  • Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...inga668905.DTL

    It is widely known that J.P. Morgan (NYSE: JPM) holds a giant short position in silver. Furthermore, some observers are accusing the bank of acting as an agent for the Federal Reserve in the market - every tick higher in the price of silver undermines confidence in the U.S. Dollar. A lower silver price helps keep the relative appeal of the U.S. dollar and other fiat currencies high.

    By selling massive amounts of paper silver in the futures market, JPM has been able to suppress the price of the precious metal. It is believed that these short positions are naked (i.e. they are not backed by any physical silver). In fact, reports indicate that JPM is short more paper silver than physically exists in the world.

    An article by Max Keiser which appeared in the Guardian on December 2, 2010 claims that the size of the short position is 3.3 billion ounces of silver.

    In recent days, rumors have been swirling on the internet that JPM's massive short position is about to blow up in their face in the form of an almighty short squeeze and potential COMEX default as large traders demand physical delivery of silver that COMEX does not have in their vaults.

    J.P. Morgan is currently under investigation by the CFTC for allegedly manipulating the price of silver. The investigation into the bank can be traced back to November 2009 when London metals trader and whistleblower Andrew Maguire contacted the CFTC to report market manipulation prior to it actually occurring.

    Maguire had been told by J.P. Morgan commodity traders that the bank was manipulating the price of silver and subsequently reported this to the CFTC. He also gave the CFTC two days' notice about an impending silver manipulation that would take place around the Nonfarm payrolls number on February 5, 2010.

    The manipulation played out EXACTLY as Maguire had predicted. You can find the emails between Maguire and Ramirez here. Shortly after this information came to light, the whistleblower was involved in a bizarre hit and run accident in London which caused him and his wife to be hospitalized.

    The price of silver has absolutely exploded in recent months as these reports have surfaced and it is clear that blood is in the water. The predator (J.P. Morgan) has now become the prey. Every tick higher in the price of silver brings more pressure on the bank to cover their short position. This in turn puts more upward pressure on the silver price.

    It is not clear if JPM has been actively trying to reduce their exposure or not - but something is definitely going on. The price of the widely traded iShares Silver Trust ETF (NYSE: SLV), which tracks the spot price of the precious metal, has exploded in recent months.

    On August 23rd, the SLV closed at $17.61. The ETF closed on Friday at $28.60 and the price of silver is now trading at 30 year highs. Over the last three months, SLV is up over 47%.

    In the overnight futures session on Sunday night, silver is currently trading 2.27% higher at $29.935. SOMETHING IS GOING ON. Making matters worse for JPM is the fact that a viral campaign (Crash JP Morgue Video) to buy physical silver and "crash" the bank is now spreading like wildfire on the internet. Just Google Crash J.P. Morgan Buy Silver.

    Furthermore, it appears that significant physical silver shortages are developing in the marketplace and the metal is being sold well over spot where it is available. Shortly after popular financial blog ZeroHedge posted the "Crash The JP Morgue" video (linked to above), the website which created the video, goldsilvergold.com, reported that it was sold out of inventory and will not be taking new orders until December 6.

    Another report indicates that JPM may really be on the ropes with their short silver position and are attempting to hedge themselves by buying $1.5 billion worth of copper. According to the Telegraph, the bank has bought "between 50% and 80%" of the 350,000 tonnes in reserve at the London Metal Exchange.

    ZeroHedge opines that "JP Morgan is now intent on cornering the copper market, as the monopolist firm stretches its FRBNY-facilitated muscles in an attempt to stem the massive losses incurred via its silver short."

    Readers who are interested in learning more about this story are encouraged to do follow up research and post comments. Those who wish to participate in squeezing the living daylights out of JPM, may want to consider buying physical silver, silver futures and SLV.

    Keep a close eye on this market during the coming week...


    Cute, but even today 3.3 billion ounces is only 90 billion bucks. Not nothing, but nothing compared to the REO holdings JPM is sitting on.

    I guess though having to cough up $90B cash would sting even Dynamo Dimon

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    As always, a good laugh

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      Re: Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

      And there it is: Ag goes over 30

      120610 ag.png
      120610 Ag over 30.png

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        Money!

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          Re: Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

          Originally posted by c1ue View Post
          And there it is: Ag goes over 30
          I went to some coin auctions this week and picked up some nice looking peace and morgan dollars for around $22 each. I was feeling buyers remorse but I kept on telling myself that I was not spending money but preserving wealth.
          Last edited by Kadriana; December 06, 2010, 12:38 PM.

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            Re: Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

            Sunday's Magazine Cover
            (the author and Dimon are allegedly friends)



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              Re: Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

              Originally posted by don View Post
              Sunday's Magazine Cover
              (the author and Dimon are allegedly friends)



              This article depicts Dimon as somewhat more cautious/conservative and hands-on than his counterparts; the image portrayed doesn't seem consistent with someone willing to pursue, or aloof enough to allow his company to pursue, such a risky strategy.

              It is widely known that J.P. Morgan (NYSE: JPM) holds a giant short position in silver.
              Is this 'widely known', or just widely speculated on? Is there a formal public disclosure of their silver position, or is it just 'according to JPM traders'? All this talk of crushing JPM almost makes me want to buy their stock.

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                Re: Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

                Originally posted by c1ue View Post
                Cute, but even today 3.3 billion ounces is only 90 billion bucks. Not nothing, but nothing compared to the REO holdings JPM is sitting on.

                I guess though having to cough up $90B cash would sting even Dynamo Dimon
                It would not be $90 Billion if JPM had to actually come up with that much silver in short order.

                In a short squeeze, the price rises inversely with the remaining stock available for sale.

                If you're short more than all that physically exists (as claimed above), and if you're forced to cover, then the price goes to infinity. No amount of money in the world can purchase that which isn't.
                Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                  Re: Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

                  Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                  No amount of money in the world can purchase that which isn't.
                  Cow, have you crossed over into Housing Bubble territory? Or more fittingly, derivatives

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                    Re: Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

                    Originally posted by jneal3 View Post
                    This article depicts Dimon as somewhat more cautious/conservative and hands-on than his counterparts; the image portrayed doesn't seem consistent with someone willing to pursue, or aloof enough to allow his company to pursue, such a risky strategy.



                    Is this 'widely known', or just widely speculated on? Is there a formal public disclosure of their silver position, or is it just 'according to JPM traders'? All this talk of crushing JPM almost makes me want to buy their stock.
                    They are being sued for allegedly shorting the silver market by several people. I believe they have admitted a large short position publicly in the past but I don't know for sure.

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                      Re: Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

                      Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                      It would not be $90 Billion if JPM had to actually come up with that much silver in short order.

                      In a short squeeze, the price rises inversely with the remaining stock available for sale.

                      If you're short more than all that physically exists (as claimed above), and if you're forced to cover, then the price goes to infinity. No amount of money in the world can purchase that which isn't.
                      Haven't they started just paying the cash equivalent of their silver shorts? Is that a possibility for them?

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                        Re: Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

                        Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                        ...If you're short more than all that physically exists (as claimed above), and if you're forced to cover, then the price goes to infinity. No amount of money in the world can purchase that which isn't.
                        The rules will be changed so that it is...

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                          Re: Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

                          allegedly (I couldn't verify) several hundred people have asked to join the class actions.

                          Originally posted by Kadriana View Post
                          They are being sued for allegedly shorting the silver market by several people. I believe they have admitted a large short position publicly in the past but I don't know for sure.

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                            Re: Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

                            Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
                            allegedly (I couldn't verify) several hundred people have asked to join the class actions.
                            There were a lot of people trying to sue Toyota for unintended acceleration too, but A) that wasn't proof of anything and B) it's pretty much gone away. Lots of internet allegation and conspiracy theory, not much that's verfiable that my quick search turned up.

                            Not that I want to defend ANY banker, just don't like rumor and conspiracy theory.
                            Last edited by jneal3; December 06, 2010, 04:29 PM. Reason: disclaimer...

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                              Re: Crush JPM by buying Silver goes MSM in US: SF Chronicle on the squeeze

                              I am really NOT an expert here, but my recollection is:

                              1) an almost identical allegation regarding the shorting of gold (by GS I believe, or some other major bank) was widely discussed, including on iTulip, almost exactly a year ago
                              2) at that time, several people here said that when those holding futures started demanding physical delivery, which would happen in Dec 2009, then GS would have to cover the shorts, and
                              3) because there wasn't enough physical to cover all the shorts on COMEX, the price would EXPLODE

                              The alternative view, voiced by a minority, then (I believe) clearly backed by EJ, was that

                              1) futures holders had no intention of demanding delivery, and
                              2) investment banks holding shorts was the simple side effect of how they do business, creating a market for those who want to speculate in futures

                              I am not arguing against metal ownership -- I remain about 20% in Au, the rest in my 401K where I have few options -- but my bet is, this Ag story plays out just like it did with Au last year. I.e., nothing discernable happens.

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