This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

Be that as it may, the 'big' Wikileaks dump continues to be lots of storm, but little substance.

To get his publicity, he provides his leaks as exclusives to 3 or 4 major newspapers first, putting them in a competitive feeding frenzy with each other. To ensure that they can and will actually publish his leaks, he vets his leaks with them, dropping what they cannot publish.

Nothing too outlandish will see the light of day by this method.

This was reported by Stefan Molyneux in True News: Wikileaks - The Hammer Comes Down:

(Stefan needs to learn how to edit his YouTube videos to get a more flattering image of himself in the initial still cover.)

[Starving Steve]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

This article says that Assange intentionally left out some damning cables regarding Israel:[/B]

And space-aliens landed in Area 54 too, north-west of Las Vegas, Nevada. But Isreal is covering that up.

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

And space-aliens landed in Area 54 too, north-west of Las Vegas, Nevada. But Israel is covering that up.

You're not keeping up with events very well there, Steve. That's Area 51, not 54.

P.S. -- and besides, that was a while back. The current primary alien landing zone is in the Gulf of Aden .

[Ghent12]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

Julian Assange has made his position on 9/11 clear. In an interview in the UK Independent, he is quoted as saying "I'm constantly annoyed that people are distracted by false conspiracies such as 9/11, when all around we provide evidence of real conspiracies, for war or mass financial fraud."

That seems to be a very reasonable position, the one you quoted.

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

That seems to be a very reasonable position, the one you quoted.

To a continuing majority of people, yes, quite so.

To a minority, including myself, the official story of 9/11 is a big lie, and Assange's comments on the matter are strong evidence that he is not an honest broker.

[cjppjc]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

To a continuing majority of people, yes, quite so.

To a minority, including myself, the official story of 9/11 is a big lie, and Assange's comments on the matter are strong evidence that he is not an honest broker.

Do you think if Assange had anything to support your contention he would not release it?

[radon]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

My personal judgement on Assange is still in deliberation.

On the one hand, transparency is a good thing.

On the other hand, Wikileaks is anything but transparent.

How can they be transparent without disclosing their sources or making themselves an easy target for censorship? Or do you mean that they should simply release everything they have when they get it?

On the gripping hand, Assange is such a self promoter that all my wary instincts are set on edge.

Be that as it may, the 'big' Wikileaks dump continues to be lots of storm, but little substance.

I agree and cannot for the life of me understand why Lieberman (cough McCarthy) et al would risk spooking the legitimate press to make an example out of this guy.

If they are going to do this to wikileaks think about what would happen if some really damaging news like presidential involvement in a break-in came to the attention of a newspaper.

At some point tea party brownshirts will start smashing windows at the Washington Post and nobody will care, but for now they need to turn down the heat on the frog.

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

Do you think if Assange had anything to support your contention he would not release it?

Yes, I believe he would not release it.

As I have described in another post yesterday, based on an explanation by Stefan Molyneux, Assange vets all his leaks with a few major newspapers first, giving them first access. Anything they would not release, he does not release. There is not a snowballs chance in Hades that anything resembling what I consider to be the true story of 9/11 will see the light of day through such a process. Now as to whether that is because I should be smoking a higher quality brand of crack, or because the Wikileaks process would suppress any such truth ... I suppose different readers will have different conclusions. So be it.

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

I agree and cannot for the life of me understand why Lieberman (cough McCarthy) et al would risk spooking the legitimate press to make an example out of this guy.

The "legitimate" press has long since chosen sides; there is no risk of spooking them. None whatsoever.

[Ghent12]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

Yes, I believe he would not release it.

As I have described in another post yesterday, based on an explanation by Stefan Molyneux, Assange vets all his leaks with a few major newspapers first, giving them first access. Anything they would not release, he does not release. There is not a snowballs chance in Hades that anything resembling what I consider to be the true story of 9/11 will see the light of day through such a process. Now as to whether that is because I should be smoking a higher quality brand of crack, or because the Wikileaks process would suppress any such truth ... I suppose different readers will have different conclusions. So be it.

Does it bother you that your 9/11 conspiracy theory is the "perfect" conspiracy? All leaks are "controlled" and the all-powerful government has managed to seal this conspiracy shut except for the small number of people who manage to "see through" it? Give me a break. Here we have a bonafide leaker of tons of classified documents and you think that because he releases through some media outlets that there's no chance he would leak something like that if he had it?

Does it bother you that your tin foil conspiracy theory can never be disproven to your satisfaction?

[ThePythonicCow]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

Does it bother you that your 9/11 conspiracy theory is the "perfect" conspiracy?

It's far from a perfect conspiracy.

However it is clear that we have not established here the context for a productive discussion of the matter.

Does it bother you that your tin foil conspiracy theory can never be disproven to your satisfaction?

... and with labels and allegations such as that, it is further clear.

[c1ue]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

How can they be transparent without disclosing their sources or making themselves an easy target for censorship? Or do you mean that they should simply release everything they have when they get it?

The latter.

Assange has on a number of occasions said that the material released is first edited.

Raw data is real; editing is what got MSM to where it is at today.

Raw editing also betrays a distinctly non-Internet 2.0 view of the world.

As the Climategate release showed - it is unnecessary to edit raw material.

With the source available to all, there are more than enough interested hobbyists and shared transparency to allow a clear sense of the contents to emerge.

[cjppjc]

Re: This week's Kazoo (vs. the Wikileaks Bullhorn): Fed finally reveals details of its lending in past 3 years

I find you to have one of the most open minds around here. Keep on trucking Cow.