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  • 1st sign of the Apocalypse? Suze Orman goes doomer...

    But then again maybe not. She's selling a book...

    http://blogs.forbes.com/jennagoudrea...dream-is-dead/

    Just in time for Thanksgiving, financial guru Suze Orman is peddling her dark side. The personal-finance author and CNBC talk-show host came to our offices recently to film a video with Moira Forbes. In an earlier post, I detailed Orman’s confessions about her personal relationship with money. Now, I take a look at her outlook for the country—and it isn’t the sunny, you-can-do-it optimism that I’d expected.

    When asked about her financial fears, Orman said: “My only fear in life, when it comes to money, is what’s happening in the United States of America. The American dream is dead for the majority of America.”

    The dream she is referring to is not even a Cinderella story; it’s much more practical. Orman believes the hope of someday owning a home, of working one job for life and retiring at 65 has been crushed by the financial crisis. “The middle class has disappeared,” she continued. “We have a highway to poverty and no roads coming out. I fear for [those] who have been kicked out of their homes, could be living on the streets and don’t know how to get another job. Many of the millions of jobs lost I don’t think are coming back. I am really afraid for the majority of Americans today.”

    It is the topic of her next book, The Money Class, which will be released in March. In it, she will detail how to create “the new American dream.”

    The cynicism is interesting from Orman, as she is the embodiment of the American dream. Orman came from modest means. Her dad was frequently sick, and her mom was a secretary who sold Avon products in order to pay the bills. “We were the American story–lost everything, never going to be anything,” Orman said. She was a waitress for seven years, earning $400 a month until age 30. Now she is a household name and multi-millionaire who has written seven financial bestsellers, will soon host money shows on CNBC and Oprah Winfrey’s OWN network, and appeared at No. 61 on our list of the World’s 100 Most Powerful Women this year.

    Orman may be worried about the deflated hopes of America, but she will not be taking those concerns to Washington. She told Forbes that modern politics are “a total waste of time,” marked by in-fighting and fear of decision-making.

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    Re: 1st sign of the Apocalypse? Suze Orman goes doomer...

    I remember at the beginning of the financial crisis she told everyone to learn to live on one income or if you were already on one income, learn to live off half of your salary. She's been cautious of the economy for a while.

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    • #3
      Re: 1st sign of the Apocalypse? Suze Orman goes doomer...

      Originally posted by c1ue View Post
      But then again maybe not. She's selling a book...

      http://blogs.forbes.com/jennagoudrea...dream-is-dead/
      Orman has probably done some good with her advice show on television - I've never watched her - but I have a difficult time believing that, talented as she may be, she could have ever achieved this...

      "Now she is a household name and multi-millionaire who has written seven financial bestsellers, will soon host money shows on CNBC and Oprah Winfrey’s OWN network, and appeared at No. 61 on our list of the World’s 100 Most Powerful Women this year"

      ...without the benefit of a rampant FIRE economy...

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        Re: 1st sign of the Apocalypse? Suze Orman goes doomer...

        Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
        Orman has probably done some good with her advice show on television - I've never watched her - but I have a difficult time believing that, talented as she may be, she could have ever achieved this...

        "Now she is a household name and multi-millionaire who has written seven financial bestsellers, will soon host money shows on CNBC and Oprah Winfrey’s OWN network, and appeared at No. 61 on our list of the World’s 100 Most Powerful Women this year"

        ...without the benefit of a rampant FIRE economy...
        from wikipedia

        Originally posted by wikipedia
        Early career

        In 1973 Orman's brother Robert, a lawyer in Chicago, gave her a thousand dollars to get started with her life after she finished college. She decided to move with friends to Berkeley, California, and lived for three months in a van on Hearst Avenue. She soon became a waitress at the Buttercup Bakery on College Avenue. In 1980, a longtime customer named Fred Hasbrook gave Orman a loan of $2,000 and took up a collection from other customers totaling $50,000 to help finance opening her own restaurant.[11] The loan was to be paid back in ten years with no interest.[12] Orman invested the money at Merrill Lynch, but four months later was broke again, after her stockbroker had led her into bad investments.[13][14]
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        Knowing that she couldn't make the money back as a waitress, and having started learning more about finances and investing, Orman returned to Merrill Lynch and entered their training program to become an account executive. She discovered through her training that her stockbroker had committed an illegal act and she thus sued Merrill Lynch. Suze received the entire $50,000 back plus interest and was able to pay back her former customer. After she completed the training, she was hired by the firm and remained there until 1983 when she left to take a position as a vice president of investments at Prudential Bache Securities. In 1987, Orman resigned and opened her own financial planning firm, the Suze Orman Financial Group, in Emeryville, California. She acted as director of the firm until 1997, when she stepped down as her writing career took off with the publication of her second book.[13]

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          Re: 1st sign of the Apocalypse? Suze Orman goes doomer...

          She discovered through her training that her stockbroker had committed an illegal act and she thus sued Merrill Lynch. Suze received the entire $50,000 back plus interest and was able to pay back her former customer. After she completed the training, she was hired by the firm
          Impressive ... It's not very often one manages to get hired by a firm one has just successfully sued.
          Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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          • #6
            Re: 1st sign of the Apocalypse? Suze Orman goes doomer...

            Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
            Impressive ... It's not very often one manages to get hired by a firm one has just successfully sued.
            she was hired BEFORE she sued them! amazing that they allowed her to stay [or maybe they were afraid she'd sue them again!]

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            • #7
              Re: 1st sign of the Apocalypse? Suze Orman goes doomer...

              Originally posted by jk View Post
              she was hired BEFORE she sued them! amazing that they allowed her to stay [or maybe they were afraid she'd sue them again!]
              I think it was Lyndon Johnson that said that it's better to have your enemies inside your tent pissing out, instead of outside your tent pissing in...

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