Obama stands by controversial air security screening methods

[karim0028]

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PREXACTLY. Will they check colostomy bags at the grocery store? Gives a new "twist" to the statement "Clean up on aisle 4!"

Or this...

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2277122

"An ABC News employee said she was subject to a "demeaning" search at Newark Liberty International Airport Sunday morning.

"The woman who checked me reached her hands inside my underwear and felt her way around," she said. "It was basically worse than going to the gynecologist. It was embarrassing. It was demeaning. It was inappropriate."

Pretty soon you'll have TSA employees asking for a tip if you want a happy ending.....

[DSpencer]

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I will say it again... As Ben Franklin once said: "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Do you honestly think that if someone wanted to do harm any type of security aside from a fascist type of security will help? A suicide bomber by definition doesn't give a shit... Do you think he is afraid of being caught? Where does it stop? Why not just go to a public place? Coffee shops, stadiums, concerts? Are you willing to be strip scanned at a concert?

It's so frustrating to hear statements like "flying is a privilege, not a right so if you don't like the security, don't fly"

I disagree with the premise that geographic mobility is a privilege, but even if you accept that, the implications are ludicrous.

Are stadiums, highways, coffee shops, restaurants, groceries, movie theaters, malls etc all privileges where anyone wishing to use these has essentially consented to a body scan or pat down?

It seems there is a widespread public outrage over this issue. It will be interesting to see if the will of the people still has any effect.

[ThePythonicCow]

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I suspect I was a tad too clever in my reference to 12:30 PM, Dallas, November 21, 1963.

U.S. President John F. Kennedy was assassinated then and there.

Jesse Ventura has just released a 45 minute (3 Youtube parts) show on the JFK assassination, available starting at Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura JFK assassination deathbed confession.

[Master Shake]

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Jesse Ventura has just released a 45 minute (3 Youtube parts) show on the JFK assassination, available starting at Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura JFK assassination deathbed confession.

Jesse Ventura, the President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho of our time.

[ThePythonicCow]

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Jesse Ventura, the President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho of our time.

I expected an ad hominem response to my link to Jesse Ventura's show on the JFK assassination.

But I'll give you credit, Master Shake. You responded with style.

Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.

You should get out more often, however (grin.)

[Master Shake]

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Yeah, ad hominem is weak, but c'mon, Jesse Ventura??

And, fwiw, I don't put the Kennedy assassination conspiracists on the same level as the lunatic Truthers. There's more than meets the eye with JFK.

[D-Mack]

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Jesse Ventura, the President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho of our time.

Wasn't he the one with the highest IQ after those two time travelers?
He would be probably better than those puppets as presidents in the past and now.

CIA confirms Ventura meeting occurred

by Tim Pugmire, Minnesota Public Radio January 3, 2008

The St. Paul Pioneer Press offered a sneak peek Thursday Jesse Ventura's forthcoming book, "Don't Start the Revolution Without Me." In one excerpt, Ventura describes a post-inaugural meeting with CIA agents. He also claims a CIA operative was on the state payroll. Even a Ventura confidant is questioning the account. But the surprising revelations are at least partially true.
St. Paul, Minn. — Shortly after taking office in 1999, Jesse Ventura writes he was asked to attend a meeting at the state Capitol. He says 23 CIA agents were waiting for him in a basement conference room.
Ventura's account of the meeting is detailed in an advance copy of his new book, which is scheduled for release in April. He claims the agents' questions focused how he campaigned for office, or as Ventura writes "how had the independent wrestler candidate pulled this off?"
Memories can fade after nine years, but a meeting with 23 CIA agents is something that might stand out. John Wodele, who served as Ventura's director of communications, said the meeting was news to him.
"I don't recall any indication that the governor had met with a CIA agent," he said. "Now, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. But I was not aware of it.
Turns out there actually was a Ventura meeting with the CIA in 1999. CIA Spokesman George Little confirmed the event today in a written statement, but he offered few details.
Little said that "on occasion CIA officers meet with senior state government officials, as they did in this case, to discuss issues of mutual interest."



http://minnesota.publicradio.org/dis...1/03/jessecia/

ha, mutual interest ... I bet Obama with his plunging ratings could end this shit and do himself a favor. But then somehow a crazy passenger without a boarding ticket or passport gets on a plane and guess who gets the blame. Or some dirt from his past gets on the news....


I bet you need someone with idiocracy balls to get through something like this.

Between 1958 and the middle of the 1960s, there occurred some 30 serious assassination attempts upon the life of Charles de Gaulle, in addition to any number of planned attempts which didn't advance much beyond the planning stage.18 A world record for a head of state, it is said. In at least one of the attempts, the CIA may have been a co-conspirator against the French president.

http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2007/02/125025.pdf

[LorenS]

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Americans "felt safer" with all the Japanese in internment camps too.

This whole "feeling safe" thing is ridiculous. You don't get to do whatever makes you "feel better". That's not how life works. It's about time we start calling out those who promote abuse just to assuage their feelings of anxiety.

[karim0028]

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americans "felt safer" with all the japanese in internment camps too.

This whole "feeling safe" thing is ridiculous. You don't get to do whatever makes you "feel better". That's not how life works. It's about time we start calling out those who promote abuse just to assuage their feelings of anxiety.

[don]

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(with subtitles)

[ThePythonicCow]

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And, fwiw, I don't put the Kennedy assassination conspiracists on the same level as the lunatic Truthers.

So ... does that mean you hold me (a Truther) in even higher esteem than JFK -- I'm honored, thanks!