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    Russian 'trainers' in Afghanistan...the first time

    NATO invites Russia to join Afghan fray
    By M K Bhadrakumar

    North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) officials have revealed their proposal with Moscow regarding a vastly stepped up Russian involvement in the Afghan war is in the final stages of negotiation and they are hopeful of formal agreement being reached at the alliance's two-day summit in Lisbon from November 19.

    Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has announced his acceptance of the NATO invitation to attend the Lisbon summit, where he also scheduled to have a two-hour meeting with United States President Barack Obama. Aside Afghanistan, Medvedev's agenda includes Iran, a Russian proposal on a European security architecture and NATO's offer to cooperate with Russia on its missile defense system (which it is linking up with the US's).

    Afghanistan promises to be the biggest vector of Russia-NATO cooperation to date. It doesn't come as surprise. A sort of romance was in the air though Moscow kept coyly disputing. Like in the Charles Dickens novel David Copperfield, we knew "Barkis is willing". Barkis fell for small things - Clara Peggotty making "apple parsties" or that she "does all the cooking" - but the smart Russian diplomats will drive a hard bargain with NATO before a nuptial knot is tied.

    The Russian ingenuity aims at making cooperation with the NATO a lucrative business deal as much as a political embrace.

    However, the timing is significant. NATO hopes to tango with Russia in Lisbon within a few hours of settling into a long-term partnership with Kabul under a status of forces agreement with the Afghan government that peers into the post-war era. In short, NATO is joining hands with Russia even as it consolidates military presence in Central Asia - an incredible turn to the great game.

    But stranger things have happened. Moscow seems increasingly confident of the reset with the US. The big question is how Afghan President Hamid Karzai and a host of others - Iranians, Central Asians (especially Uzbeks), Chinese and the Afghans (especially Pashtuns) - view an emergent NATO-Russia condominium.

    NATO officials indicated that the deals included a supply of Russian helicopters and Russian crews to train Afghan pilots, Russian military instructors training Afghan military, expansion of the transit and supply routes for NATO forces in Afghanistan via Russian territory, and effective cooperation in curbing drug trafficking and strengthening border security.

    The NATO secretary general Anders Fogh Rasmussen told the Guardian newspaper: "The [Lisbon] summit can mark a new start in the relationship between NATO and Russia. We will hopefully agree on a broad range of areas in which we can develop practical cooperation on Afghanistan, counter-terrorism, counter-narcotics.

    ''Russia is strongly interested in increased cooperation ... Last December when I visited Moscow I suggested that Russia provide helicopters for the Afghan army. Since then Russia has reflected on that and there are now bilateral talks between Russia and the US. I would not exclude that we will facilitate that process within the NATO-Russian Council."

    Russian helicopters are rugged machines suitable for the tough conditions in Afghanistan and Afghan armed forces are used to Soviet-era equipment. Russia has been insisting on a "commercial" deal. But the deal has manifestly political overtones. Will Russia be deputing its military instructors to Afghanistan or will Afghan officers get trained in the Russian military academies?

    The proposal to deploy Russian helicopter crews to Afghanistan is a dramatic step. Of all the images etched deep in the Afghan consciousness and jihad mythology, it is the Russian helicopter gunships criss-crossing the Afghan skies raining death and destruction during the period 1979-89 that still evokes fear and fury. No doubt, the return of Russian military personnel becomes a highly symbolic turning point in the 30-year Afghan civil war.

    How far is NATO is coordinating with Karzai? Karzai kept a cool distance from Moscow during most of the time and only lately, when his relations with the West began plummeting did he begin thawing. Karzai will now have to think hard and measure the hostility toward Russia still among the Afghan people. He is debilitated in the Afghan bazaar by the image of being a puppet of foreign powers.

    Second, Karzai is barely keeping equilibrium in a tempestuous relationship with Western forces over whom he has no control. Two days ago, he lashed out at the West. He also "stormed out" of a meeting with the US commander, General David Petraeus. Conceivably, he is also watching with disquiet the latest chapter in the US's dalliance with the Pakistani military. Karzai's preference will be to have independent dealings with the regional powers, especially Russia.

    Third, the Russian entry will cast shadows on the Afghan ethnic mosaic. It has been with non-Pashtun nationalities - especially Tajiks and Uzbeks - that Moscow got deeply involved over the years. Moscow had little to do with the Hazaras and was mostly on uneasy terms with the Pashtuns (despite keeping subsoil contacts with the Taliban). The officer corps of Afghan armed forces is predominantly Tajik and the Pashtuns have misgivings that Moscow is once again developing the sinews of its erstwhile proxies.

    More so, as the Russian military personnel will be coming in at a time when non-Pashtun groups have begun secretly arming themselves fearing a Taliban takeover in Kabul.

    The Taliban will take serious note of any form of Russian military involvement in the war and that can have serious implications for the Taliban's future cooperation with Central Asian militant groups. The Taliban viewed as something within acceptable threshold that Russia provided NATO with air and land supply and transit arrangements. But the threshold of the Taliban's tolerance may change, especially if the nascent peace talks fail to take off and the accent falls on the resistance.

    Third, suffice to say that regional powers like China, Uzbekistan and Tajikistan will be curious about Russia joining hands with NATO bilaterally, sidestepping the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) or the Shanghai Cooperation Organization. In effect, the kaleidoscope of collective security in Central Asia undergoes an ominous tilt. NATO still views the CSTO and SCO disdainfully.

    On balance, NATO and the US are net gainers. The timing is perfect. NATO ensures that Moscow acquiesces in its long-term military presence in the region. NATO has multiple motives. With the specter of defeat staring at it, NATO has nothing to lose. These are days when the alliance and the US in particular feel lonely when the dusk falls - and it's good to have company of friends who have moved about in the dark in the Hindu Kush. In any case, Moscow has been bending over backward to be helpful.
    It is useful to keep Russia engaged instead of ignoring it lest it acted as a "spoiler". Moscow still wields influence over non-Pashtun groups opposed to reconciliation with the Taliban. Also, Pakistan no more objects to Russia's entry. Moscow made serious overtures to Islamabad to reach a modus vivendi over Afghanistan and it is paying dividends.

    In practical terms, the northern supply route via Russian territory is a great boon for NATO with insurgents having stepped up attacks on the two routes running through Pakistan.

    But the geopolitics of NATO-Russia tie-up isolates China and Iran. Conceivably, the US is pursuing this tie-up as a matter of regional policy. According to NATO officials, a separate agreement on limited Russian cooperation with NATO's European missile defense plans is also in prospect at the Lisbon summit, which is a symbolic demonstration of a security matrix struggling to be born. It seems the reset process with Russia that Washington mooted modestly as a course correction from the George W Bush era is beginning to impact on the geopolitical chessboard.

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/LJ28Ag01.html

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    Re: New Hand Dealt in Great Game

    You've been starting some good posts, don. Thanks.

    This is another interesting one. Increasingly it seems that the world is evolving from a U.S. dominated Pax Americana to an oligarchy of nations.
    Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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    • #3
      Re: New Hand Dealt in Great Game

      Thanks, Cow. One does what one can.

      Care to send a son or daughter to Afghanistan.....

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      • #4
        Re: New Hand Dealt in Great Game

        The Daily Bell analyzes the Afghan war in an article posted today: Afghanistan: An Even Longer War?. The article notes in passing that Russia has been invited to participate. The article concludes:
        US commanders have a very big problem on their hands, and any aggressive actions are likely to make it bigger. What is going on in Afghanistan now is interesting and important, but also quite dangerous. The war on terror has always been a fear-based elite promotion in our view. But the war for control in the Middle East is deadly serious – and the Anglo-American elite is not historically a gracious loser. What happens next could have investment, security and even global-military ramifications. Eyes on Afghanistan. And Pakistan, too. And Iran. And the Pentagon.
        It seems that Russia, China, India and the U.S. all want increased control over the Islamic Middle East, and are (more or less) co-operating toward that objective.
        Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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          Re: New Hand Dealt in Great Game

          Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
          The Daily Bell analyzes the Afghan war in an article posted today: Afghanistan: An Even Longer War?. The article notes in passing that Russia has been invited to participate. The article concludes:
          It seems that Russia, China, India and the U.S. all want increased control over the Islamic Middle East, and are (more or less) co-operating toward that objective.
          A disturbing thought. Moving towards an age of more defined "spheres of influence" ala China? Or the partition of Poland with actual garrisons of troops?

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          • #6
            Re: New Hand Dealt in Great Game

            I am in favour of any leader who has "the balls" to hang Mr. A and his clerics in Iran , wipe-out the Taliban in Afghanistan, and knock Al Qaide off of the map. As I have always believed, "The ends justify the means." So, if Russia wants to do the job to knock-out the Taliban in Afghanistan, that is good news. That is a good first-step.

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            • #7
              Re: New Hand Dealt in Great Game

              Originally posted by jpatter666 View Post
              A disturbing thought. Moving towards an age of more defined "spheres of influence" ala China?
              On a related issue, someone (I think it was Pastor Lindsey Williams on the Alex Jones show, so I won't bother hunting down a link) noticed that China is now the world's number one energy consumer, and Russia the number one energy producer. I don't trust these claims entirely, given the source, but I suspect they aren't too far off.

              Given that, and given the geography of the situation, and given the announcement earlier this week of an arrangement to trade energy (denominated in ruples or yuan, not U.S. Dollars) between Russia and China, one can see a fair amount of synergy between those two nations. They must appreciate the fact that the U.S. Navy can't interdict pipelines between central Asia and China.

              I would have to wager that Russia and China will be the sole (no U.S.) dominate controllers of Caspian Sea oil and Turkmen gas, sooner or later. Russia's Gazprom already entirely controls northern and western Siberian gas, of course.

              Once Russia has two major consumers (Europe and China) fully on-line for its gas and oil, they can more easily play hardball with one or the other, without worrying about not being paid anything that month. The Russians would never play hardball would they? Nah, never!

              Maybe it's time for the U.S. to start exploring for the Haiti oil we stole fair and square, and making a deal with California -- trade a bailout for offshore drilling.

              Originally posted by jpatter666 View Post
              Or the partition of Poland with actual garrisons of troops?
              Soft power seems to be less expensive. Put local uniforms on the garrison and arrange for the election of a local (but compliant) national for the leader. There is seldom any reason to be too blatant about it all, one might arouse the masses.
              Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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              • #8
                Re: New Hand Dealt in Great Game

                Originally posted by Starving Steve View Post
                So, if Russia wants to do the job to knock-out the Taliban in Afghanistan, that is good news.
                I'll wager that the U.S. leaves Afghanistan before the Taliban do.
                Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                • #9
                  Re: New Hand Dealt in Great Game

                  "I'll wager that the U.S. leaves Afghanistan before the Taliban do."
                  Winston Churchill would agree! One of this great reports from the Front. Those who fail to learn from History are damned to repeat it .... "Every man's hand is against the other, and all against the stranger."
                  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...churchill.html

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                  • #10
                    Re: New Hand Dealt in Great Game

                    Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                    This is another interesting one. Increasingly it seems that the world is evolving from a U.S. dominated Pax Americana to an oligarchy of nations.
                    Right, and an oligarchy of nations means an oligarchical currency system, i.e., and effectively uni-currency which can be debased to to fund the exploits of the cooperating sovereigns. They will have to target gold as it is anathema to their power over the masses.

                    I for one am relying on some forms of nationalism to keep this oligarchy from gaining global top-down control ... but then again I've always been quick to jump on the paranoid
                    train.

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                    • #11
                      Re: New Hand Dealt in Great Game

                      I must say, the article completely misses the point.

                      While the author spins the moves as being a cooperation between NATO and Russia (i.e. the US), in reality what is occurring is the US attempting to 'multilateralize' the Afghan conflict.

                      Barring a division or more of Russian troops in Afghanistan, all that has really occurred is that Russia can now say that it was invited back into the territory it had attempted to militarily conquer in the '80s.

                      Lovely PR move for Medvedev internally, but irrelevant in global diplomacy terms.

                      What is really happening is that the US has pushed Turkey into an economic cooperation with Russia - something which the UK and the US have had as a specific anti-goal for literally hundreds of years (see Catherine the Great).

                      Russia now has an unprecedented cooperation along its SW border - hardly an alliance but comparatively a gigantic change.

                      Similarly with Afghanistan, Russia can now attempt to re-extend its influence without being the proximate cause.

                      In between, Iran is being vilified by the US - Russia is not exactly obstructing nor assisting, but rather is internally laughing as the US pushes the entire Russian border nations from Turkey to Afghanistan into at least recognizing that Russia isn't the biggest threat.

                      This is again a historical anomaly.

                      Another fine job by ham handed US policy 'experts'

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                      • #12
                        Re: New Hand Dealt in Great Game

                        Its all about heroin. Victor Ivanov the head of Russia's anti-narcotic agency has been clear. In order to win you have to wipe out the heroin labs and opium fields and warehouses. Russians suffers a lot from the heroin trade and that's the only reason of their growing involvement in Afganistan.

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