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  • I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

    In the first Great Depression, many American males were emasculated, blocked from being the principal provider by the ruins of the economy. Marriages dropped precipitously until the economy revived with WW2, laying the groundwork for the Boomers.

    Saying No to ‘I Do,’ With the Economy in Mind

    By ERIK ECKHOLM

    The United States crossed an important marital threshold in 2009, with the number of young adults who have never married surpassing, for the first time in more than a century, the number who were married.

    A long-term decline in marriage accelerated during the severe recession, according to new data from the Census Bureau, with more couples postponing marriage and often choosing to cohabit without tying the knot.

    “People are unsure about their job security, and a lot of people lost their jobs,” said Mark Mather of the Population Reference Bureau, a private research group that analyzed census figures. “Getting married is obviously a big step and if you’re not comfortable about your future, it makes sense that you’d postpone a big decision like this.”

    Will McElroy, 26, of Atlanta, has been dating his girlfriend, Ann, for three years. They have discussed marriage, but he lost his job as a computer programmer this year and is now more focused on looking for work than planning for the future.
    “Yeah, it definitely takes money to get married,” he said, and “being married probably means eventually buying a house and having kids, right?”

    Among the total population 18 and older, the share of men and women who were married fell from 57 percent in 2000 to 52 percent in 2009 — again, the lowest percentage since the government began collecting data more than 100 years ago. The share of adult women who were married fell below half, to 49.9 percent.
    Society could be in store for a brief marriage bump if economic good times return, sociologists said, but it is likely to be a temporary reversal, at best, of a long-term downward slide.



  • #2
    Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

    They've seen divorce up close while growing and are smart enough to know the risk / reward ratio is too high without a prenup. Most women demand trust and saying the P word is grounds for dismissal. Of course, just losing interest in the guy is also grounds for divorce after he gets suckered in..........

    There was a time, not long ago, when the man was the head of the household. That role has reversed - women have demanded the privileges of manhood and here we are.

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    • #3
      Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

      Originally posted by Minion View Post
      They've seen divorce up close while growing and are smart enough to know the risk / reward ratio is too high without a prenup. Most women demand trust and saying the P word is grounds for dismissal. Of course, just losing interest in the guy is also grounds for divorce after he gets suckered in..........

      There was a time, not long ago, when the man was the head of the household. That role has reversed - women have demanded the privileges of manhood and here we are.
      My next wife will be a bear, the kind of bear that walks or lumbers-around on two legs, in East Sooke, British Columbia.

      www.eastsooke.com
      Last edited by Starving Steve; September 29, 2010, 09:45 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

        Lifespans are shortening. Disease rates are rising. The internal market is shrinking, and so is Europe's population - as it did in the 1930s, when the "population problem" was a plunge in fertility and birth rates. That is what happens in economic depressions.
        from Hudson's post Neoliberal Pushback in Europe.

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        • #5
          Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

          Originally posted by Minion View Post
          They've seen divorce up close while growing and are smart enough to know the risk / reward ratio is too high without a prenup. Most women demand trust and saying the P word is grounds for dismissal. Of course, just losing interest in the guy is also grounds for divorce after he gets suckered in..........

          There was a time, not long ago, when the man was the head of the household. That role has reversed - women have demanded the privileges of manhood and here we are.
          This can be seen more in cultures like scandinavia were genders are treated as equal as can be without considering that real differences exist... THe outcome, you see countless articles of Women in Sweden complaining that men aren't manly enough in Sweden, no sh*t!

          As for marriage, its a social/religious construct anyway, I see very little value in it actually...

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          • #6
            Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

            Originally posted by tsetsefly View Post
            This can be seen more in cultures like scandinavia were genders are treated as equal as can be without considering that real differences exist... THe outcome, you see countless articles of Women in Sweden complaining that men aren't manly enough in Sweden, no sh*t!

            As for marriage, its a social/religious construct anyway, I see very little value in it actually...
            You probably see little value in most social/relgious constructs...which sort of leaves you with a revival of the agnostic/secular consumer society to have faith in... :-)

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            • #7
              Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

              Originally posted by GRG55 View Post
              ...which sort of leaves you with a revival of the agnostic/secular consumer society to have faith in... :-)
              What sends chills up my spine is that so many others feel the same way.

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              • #8
                Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

                Hey ... news flash. It the religious types in the suburbs that are the center of the consumer society not the secular skeptic. I don't think we have a problem with too much rational skeptical thinking. We have a problem with too much belief.

                Marriage to have kids and take care of one another does makes sense bit it takes commitment, realism, and creativity. All three lacking in the modern culture. Women have especially tended to drift on the later two and men on the first.

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                • #9
                  Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

                  Originally posted by sunskyfan View Post
                  Hey ... news flash. It the religious types in the suburbs that are the center of the consumer society not the secular skeptic.
                  I see just the opposite.

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                  • #10
                    Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

                    I think the consumer society cuts a broad swath across all types. From rednecks with 4 wheelers to urbanites drinking $6 coffee.

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                    • #11
                      Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

                      Man alot of rich bitter men here

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                      • #12
                        Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

                        Originally posted by Starving Steve View Post
                        My next wife will be a bear, the kind of bear that walks or lumbers-around on two legs, in East Sooke, British Columbia.

                        www.eastsooke.com
                        Your comments never cease to amaze me....

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                        • #13
                          Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

                          Originally posted by karim0028 View Post
                          Man alot of rich bitter men here
                          well one out of two anyway!

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                          • #14
                            Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

                            Originally posted by flintlock View Post
                            well one out of two anyway!
                            It seems like some ex-wives must have done a number on some poor guys Confucius say: "Women, cant live with'em, wrists go sore with out'em"

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                            • #15
                              Re: I Don'T: Marriage in the New Normal

                              I think the Confucius quote you are looking for is "women, can't screw with them, can't screw with out them" ;)

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