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  • #16
    Re: Hugh Hendry bearish on Japan, China.

    Originally posted by LargoWinch View Post
    That leaves only one option to the NATO dumbnuts: military.
    If the problem is Iranian nukes, then yes, yet another military operation is the only option left.

    But if the problem is how to subjugate the belt of Islamic civilization from North Africa to Indonesia to the will of the Anglo-American-Zionist-European Empire, then the claimed threat of Iranian nukes may be more a part of the solution than of the problem, for such a threat can be used to increase the level of tensions and precipitate a more general war in the region.
    Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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    • #17
      Re: Hugh Hendry bearish on Japan, China.

      Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
      Peace negotiations for the Israeli-Palestinian dispute have been "hopeful", "hoped for" or "promising" for my entire life. They are a distraction, a charade. Efforts do not fail for this long unless someone wants them to fail.
      The only solution is for the Jews to give up Israel. Perhaps America can carve out an "israel" size piece of land in Texas. The holy sites and temples can be shipped over. Problem solved. ;-)

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      • #18
        Re: Hugh Hendry bearish on Japan, China.

        Originally posted by touchring View Post
        The only solution is for the Jews to give up Israel. Perhaps America can carve out an "israel" size piece of land in Texas. The holy sites and temples can be shipped over. Problem solved. ;-)
        Yeah - that could fit.
        Move the "New Israel" right along the border with Mexico, and solve our illegal immigration problem at the same time!
        Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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        • #19
          Re: Hugh Hendry bearish on Japan, China.

          Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
          Yeah - that could fit.
          Move the "New Israel" right along the border with Mexico, and solve our illegal immigration problem at the same time!

          I'm not joking, this maybe the final outcome. Iran is now officially being backed by China and Russian. With China getting stronger by the day, Iran will only get bolder and bolder. It is only a matter of time before evacuation.

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          • #20
            Re: Hugh Hendry bearish on Japan, China.

            Originally posted by touchring View Post
            I'm not joking, this maybe the final outcome. Iran is now officially being backed by China and Russian. With China getting stronger by the day, Iran will only get bolder and bolder. It is only a matter of time before evacuation.
            I am not sure how much of the thread is tongue in cheek, but Israel has non-negotiable positions related to the real estate there: "Masada today is one of the Jewish people's greatest symbols. Israeli soldiers take an oath there: "Masada shall not fall again." Next to Jerusalem, it is the most popular destination of Jewish tourists visiting Israel."

            http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...sm/masada.html

            I think there will be some kind of analogous event to the US-Japan nuclear weapon use in the next 10 years. This was largely a demonstration of power that unfortunately cost many lives. Somebody will "be forced" to do this again, and it might be Israel. There are certain non-negotiable items for them, and if faced with extinction, they will defend the people and their land. The other talk about ideologies is relevant, but there is a bottom line, from their point of view.

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            • #21
              Re: Hugh Hendry bearish on Japan, China.

              Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
              Successful Mid-East talks will not happen in my lifetime. The oscillating tensions will persist until some far more dramatic sequence of events "changes everything." The risk remains that this dramatic sequence will be very violent.
              OK let me rephrase, moderately effective mideast talks, meaning kicking the can down the road some more.

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              • #22
                Re: Hugh Hendry bearish on Japan, China.

                Originally posted by yernamehear View Post
                I am not sure how much of the thread is tongue in cheek, but Israel has non-negotiable positions related to the real estate there: "Masada today is one of the Jewish people's greatest symbols. Israeli soldiers take an oath there: "Masada shall not fall again." Next to Jerusalem, it is the most popular destination of Jewish tourists visiting Israel."

                This is probably tongue in cheek, at least in our generation, but 60-70 years from now, who knows?

                So far Israel has been under the protection of the Anglo Saxon powers - US, UK, but which are in slow decline. Who knows what the world situation will be like by then? Of course, many things can happen, oil may have run out, so as a result, Israel's position may improve in the new world order.

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                • #23
                  Re: Hugh Hendry bearish on Japan, China.

                  Originally posted by Jay View Post
                  OK let me rephrase, moderately effective mideast talks, meaning kicking the can down the road some more.
                  Ah - ok. As in "my efforts to disarm this bomb have been successful so far -- it has not yet blown up in my face."
                  Most folks are good; a few aren't.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Hugh Hendry bearish on Japan, China.

                    Originally posted by ThePythonicCow View Post
                    Ah - ok. As in "my efforts to disarm this bomb have been successful so far -- it has not yet blown up in my face."
                    Yes, but why are you sitting on it?

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                    • #25
                      Re: Hugh Hendry bearish on Japan, China.

                      Originally posted by touchring View Post
                      This is probably tongue in cheek, at least in our generation, but 60-70 years from now, who knows?

                      So far Israel has been under the protection of the Anglo Saxon powers - US, UK, but which are in slow decline. Who knows what the world situation will be like by then? Of course, many things can happen, oil may have run out, so as a result, Israel's position may improve in the new world order.
                      I tend to think Israel will simply cease to exist as an ethnostate. They have the same problem South Africa had - they needed the help of second class citizens, who in time became so numerous repressive measures became increasingly more necessary. The only way you can have an ethnostate is if you completely remove all other population groups. They did it to an extent, but not as much as they could have.

                      Eventually, people just get sick of the repression needed to dominate a larger, foreign population group. It always ends up being too expensive, either in blood or treasure. Only the Spartans really succeeded in doing it, and they only did that by turning their entire culture into a military machine.

                      I know many Israelis who left precisely for this reason. They were tired of living in fear, wondering how it was going to work out, the enormous expense of their military... It just doesn't work.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Hugh Hendry bearish on Japan, China.

                        What is a ethnostate?

                        Is China a ethnostate? China is even more diverse in ethnicity than Europe, West + East.

                        Of course, it took 2000 years of culture and religion cleansing before a unified "China culture" appeared. It started off when the Qin dynasty emperor banned religion, philosophy and even destroyed all books in the process.

                        2000 years later, Mao did it again with the cultural revolution.

                        This is the secret of the Chinese empire where others like the Persian, Egyptian and Roman had failed.



                        Originally posted by Serge_Tomiko View Post
                        I tend to think Israel will simply cease to exist as an ethnostate. They have the same problem South Africa had - they needed the help of second class citizens, who in time became so numerous repressive measures became increasingly more necessary. The only way you can have an ethnostate is if you completely remove all other population groups. They did it to an extent, but not as much as they could have.

                        Eventually, people just get sick of the repression needed to dominate a larger, foreign population group. It always ends up being too expensive, either in blood or treasure. Only the Spartans really succeeded in doing it, and they only did that by turning their entire culture into a military machine.

                        I know many Israelis who left precisely for this reason. They were tired of living in fear, wondering how it was going to work out, the enormous expense of their military... It just doesn't work.
                        Last edited by touchring; October 03, 2010, 04:20 AM.

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